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Post by noblesol on Jul 16, 2024 13:39:08 GMT -5
DeMello would be happy if he never had to mention volleyball. And Tiff is more clued into UH WVB and MVB than anyone else in the media. So, this was a weird way of getting UH WVB a moment of filler on KHON2 sports, but at least it was something positive, marginally informative, and better than the usual DeMello half-hearted effort and inch deep coverage of local VB.
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Post by practicesafesets on Jul 16, 2024 17:27:07 GMT -5
Sorry, this question was probably asked but how come the University of Hawaii couldn't have been moved to the WCC, at least for women's VB?
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Post by 808empath on Jul 16, 2024 18:37:07 GMT -5
Sorry, this question was probably asked but how come the University of Hawaii couldn't have been moved to the WCC, at least for women's VB? Well according to Wikipedia, idk when this was updated, at one time all the schools were religious affiliated. It's changed now, but back then all of them were religious affiliated. "All of the current full members are private, faith-based institutions. Seven members are Catholic Church affiliates, with four of these schools being Jesuit institutions. Pepperdine is an affiliate of the Churches of Christ. The conference's newest member, the University of the Pacific (which rejoined in 2013 after a 42-year absence), is affiliated with the United Methodist Church, although it has been financially independent of the church since 1969.[1]" If you scroll down to member schools you'll see the other added schools only for volleyball or other sport. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Conference
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Post by HawaiiMongoose on Jul 16, 2024 21:16:46 GMT -5
Sorry, this question was probably asked but how come the University of Hawaii couldn't have been moved to the WCC, at least for women's VB? Well according to Wikipedia, idk when this was updated, at one time all the schools were religious affiliated. It's changed now, but back then all of them were religious affiliated. "All of the current full members are private, faith-based institutions. Seven members are Catholic Church affiliates, with four of these schools being Jesuit institutions. Pepperdine is an affiliate of the Churches of Christ. The conference's newest member, the University of the Pacific (which rejoined in 2013 after a 42-year absence), is affiliated with the United Methodist Church, although it has been financially independent of the church since 1969.[1]" If you scroll down to member schools you'll see the other added schools only for volleyball or other sport. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_ConferenceAll of the WCC's current members are faith-based schools and so are the conference's planned 2025 additions. Seattle is a Jesuit Catholic institution. Grand Canyon isn't affiliated with a specific church but is a non-denominational Christian institution.
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Post by practicesafesets on Jul 16, 2024 21:20:47 GMT -5
Well according to Wikipedia, idk when this was updated, at one time all the schools were religious affiliated. It's changed now, but back then all of them were religious affiliated. "All of the current full members are private, faith-based institutions. Seven members are Catholic Church affiliates, with four of these schools being Jesuit institutions. Pepperdine is an affiliate of the Churches of Christ. The conference's newest member, the University of the Pacific (which rejoined in 2013 after a 42-year absence), is affiliated with the United Methodist Church, although it has been financially independent of the church since 1969.[1]" If you scroll down to member schools you'll see the other added schools only for volleyball or other sport. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_ConferenceAll of the WCC's current members are faith-based schools and so are the conference's planned 2025 additions. Seattle is a Jesuit Catholic institution. Grand Canyon isn't affiliated with a specific church but is a non-denominational Christian institution. Oregon State and Washington State... Faith-Based... Got it
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Post by VT Karen on Jul 16, 2024 22:08:42 GMT -5
I can't recall seeing Tiff or his mother field questions like this but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Just weird lol cindy luis has done it a few times while a reporter. i remember her appearing on bobby curran's show to talk wahine volleyball. it's not uncommon for journalists to use other journalists (as experts) as a source like this. this happens on espn all the time, and even generally on the 24-hour news cycle channels like cnn and fox. That's a fair point. Though, I think the lack of engagement from the current staff combined with things like this makes it seem more off than usual. I don't want to nitpick this because I personally don't think it's a big deal but it is interesting to note.
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Post by babybacksets on Jul 16, 2024 23:33:26 GMT -5
All of the WCC's current members are faith-based schools and so are the conference's planned 2025 additions. Seattle is a Jesuit Catholic institution. Grand Canyon isn't affiliated with a specific church but is a non-denominational Christian institution. Oregon State and Washington State... Faith-Based... Got it Well i think there was a for sure exception there, those 2 schools would’ve been out of a conference and the WCC is probably the best option for them travel wise and financially in general
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Post by HawaiiMongoose on Jul 17, 2024 0:50:12 GMT -5
All of the WCC's current members are faith-based schools and so are the conference's planned 2025 additions. Seattle is a Jesuit Catholic institution. Grand Canyon isn't affiliated with a specific church but is a non-denominational Christian institution. Oregon State and Washington State... Faith-Based... Got it OSU and WSU aren't full members of the WCC. They were looking for a conference where they could park most of their non-football sports as short-term affiliates and the WCC was willing to accommodate the request at a much lower price than what the MWC was asking. The deal only runs through 2026 and I think the odds of OSU and WSU remaining in the WCC beyond that are very low.
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Post by medusa on Jul 17, 2024 8:42:49 GMT -5
How do NCAA rate schools between D1 and so on? When was the last time any team from BW ever reached the final four in any sports?
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jul 17, 2024 9:49:26 GMT -5
How do NCAA rate schools between D1 and so on? When was the last time any team from BW ever reached the final four in any sports? Just this past year Cal Poly - Beach Volleyball Long Beach State & UC Irvine - Men’s Volleyball Hawai’i - Women’s Water Polo
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Post by staticb on Jul 17, 2024 12:39:47 GMT -5
Sorry, this question was probably asked but how come the University of Hawaii couldn't have been moved to the WCC, at least for women's VB? WVB is a core big west sport. You must play it (in the big west) to be a member of that conference. Pepperdine easily ripped through the WCC and then sucked in the NCAA's. From a competitive standpoint it's not much better with BYU gone.
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Post by beachgrad on Jul 17, 2024 17:47:15 GMT -5
Sorry, this question was probably asked but how come the University of Hawaii couldn't have been moved to the WCC, at least for women's VB? WVB is a core big west sport. You must play it (in the big west) to be a member of that conference. Pepperdine easily ripped through the WCC and then sucked in the NCAA's. From a competitive standpoint it's not much better with BYU gone. I agree that when you look at the top 3 or 4 teams there is not a big gap but the bottom of the BW is pretty bad and that is what drags down the conferences RPI. Just wishing that the bottom would move to the under 200 rating and the conference would make big strides upward in RPI. Top ten in RPI last year but with a better bottom could be one of the top two or three non P4 conferences. Hopefully all the programs continue to get better because all of the volleyball sports are very important in the Big West.
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Post by medusa on Jul 17, 2024 18:16:39 GMT -5
I can't wait till 9/17. Been decades since I went to one of UH matches.
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Post by DiggUH on Jul 17, 2024 22:41:55 GMT -5
I can't wait till 9/17. Been decades since I went to one of UH matches. That's probably going to feel like a home match for da 'Bows lol.
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Post by medusa on Jul 18, 2024 8:12:55 GMT -5
I can't wait till 9/17. Been decades since I went to one of UH matches. That's probably going to feel like a home match for da 'Bows lol. LV is 9th Island.
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