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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2024 20:01:14 GMT -5
I agree with you that Men's and Women's Volleyball are different in recruiting environment, just by the amount of teams competing for these recruits. Knowing this, Robyn does not even try to recruit foreign players, whether it be from Europe, Asia, South Pacific, Canada, Central America, South Pacific, or even Australia, for that matter. Even Wade is smart enough to know he cannot stock the Men's team with Mainland teams, and keep them at their present level. He does his literal leg work to get players from foreign countries. I am smart enough to not expect Robyn to take the Wahine Team to every Final Four, but the Wahine Team should be good enough to dominate the BWC, and at least make the Regionals on a consistent basis. By Dominate, I mean, win the BWC going away, which they are not doing, and it has become more of a struggle to do so, every year. that is to win the BWC. That is on Robyn and staff, for not doing their job recruiting wise. They cannot even bring in transfer players with Hawaii ties, that is how far the Wahine program has fallen. Robyn and staff do not even get a sniff from these players in the transfer portal. Do you people not see this as a problem. Also, how long will it take Robyn to learn that part of her job includes public relations and communication. Robyn has been the Head Coach, for what, going on 7 years now, she has not learned that is part of her job. Seems like she does not want to learn, which will eventually be her downfall. 15 or so legit men's teams vs 300+ women's team (and 65 scholarships vs 3200 for the women) is a huge differential that you cannot dismiss so simply. Your strongest argument is in terms of the improvement in public relations and overall administration, including the coaching staff. She has not made enough progress in those areas. But despite that, Robyn has done a fairly good job of dominating the Big West--which BW coach has even come close to her record? What will be interesting to witness is, when the Wahine Team stops dominating the Big West, and also, stops going to the NCAA Tournament. What will Robyn do, will it be status quo, or will she start to make changes. In regards to her coaching staff, and recruiting philosophy. Not to mention public relations and overall administration of the Wahine Team. Cause right now Robyn is still relying on what Head Coach Dave Shoji built. When it comes to getting the Wahine Team into the NCAA Tournament, a few times.
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 18, 2024 20:08:16 GMT -5
15 or so legit men's teams vs 300+ women's team (and 65 scholarships vs 3200 for the women) is a huge differential that you cannot dismiss so simply. Your strongest argument is in terms of the improvement in public relations and overall administration, including the coaching staff. She has not made enough progress in those areas. But despite that, Robyn has done a fairly good job of dominating the Big West--which BW coach has even come close to her record? What will be interesting to witness is, when the Wahine Team stops dominating the Big West, and also, stops going to the NCAA Tournament. What will Robyn do, will it be status quo, or will she start to make changes. In regards to her coaching staff, and recruiting philosophy. Not to mention public relations and overall administration of the Wahine Team. Cause right now Robyn is still relying on what Head Coach Dave Shoji built. When it comes to getting the Wahine Team into the NCAA Tournament, a few times. You're not making sense. The only tangible thing left from Shoji's tenure is the historical legacy and reputation. Everything in terms of recruiting, budgeting, staff or administration, and even the conference make-up, is now completely different--the transfer portal, NIL, the Hawai'i Athletic Department, football, etc. are all different or long gone. And back to the main point, who exactly is going to out-coach Robyn in the Big West? The late, great Tyler Hildebrand? The Irvine coach? The new, unknown Long Beach coach? The only coach with real, but still unknown, potential, is the UCSB coach, who did a great job in his first year.
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2024 20:23:07 GMT -5
What will be interesting to witness is, when the Wahine Team stops dominating the Big West, and also, stops going to the NCAA Tournament. What will Robyn do, will it be status quo, or will she start to make changes. In regards to her coaching staff, and recruiting philosophy. Not to mention public relations and overall administration of the Wahine Team. Cause right now Robyn is still relying on what Head Coach Dave Shoji built. When it comes to getting the Wahine Team into the NCAA Tournament, a few times. You're not making sense. The only tangible thing left from Shoji's tenure is the historical legacy and reputation. Everything in terms of recruiting, budgeting, staff or administration, and even the conference make-up, is now completely different--the transfer portal, NIL, the Hawai'i Athletic Department, footbal, etc. are all different or long gone. And back to the point, who exactly is going to out-coach Robyn? The late, great Tyler Hildebrand? The Irvine coach? The new, unknown Long Beach coach? The only coach with real, but still unknown, potential, is the UCSB coach, who did a great job in his first year. Coming out of the Big West Women's Volleyball Media Day, it would not shock, or even surprise me, if the Wahine Team is picked 3rd, or 4th, behind Cal Poly and UCSB, maybe even LBSU, or some other team. The one Wahine player I will feel sorry for is Kate Lang. She will only have 1 player with any kind of experience to set to, which is Caylen Alexander. Every team will stack their block to stop Caylen Alexander leaving Kate Lang zero options after that. Not only that Robyn will have zero options to turn to when one of her Middles, or Hitters, goes south. That is how thin this Wahine Team is. For a Head Coach with, so called, Robyn's experience, that is uncalled for to leave a team this thin. You would have thought Robyn would have learned from Charlie Wade's situation this past year, but guess not. At least Charlie had a couple of options, but Robyn does not even have that with this current Wahine Team.
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2024 20:26:01 GMT -5
I just hope Robyn and staff is attending church and praying every day that none of the players get hurt. Cause this Wahine Team cannot withstand and come back from a player being injured, as thin as this Wahine Team is.
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Post by volleyguy on Jul 18, 2024 20:27:48 GMT -5
You're not making sense. The only tangible thing left from Shoji's tenure is the historical legacy and reputation. Everything in terms of recruiting, budgeting, staff or administration, and even the conference make-up, is now completely different--the transfer portal, NIL, the Hawai'i Athletic Department, footbal, etc. are all different or long gone. And back to the point, who exactly is going to out-coach Robyn? The late, great Tyler Hildebrand? The Irvine coach? The new, unknown Long Beach coach? The only coach with real, but still unknown, potential, is the UCSB coach, who did a great job in his first year. Coming out of the Big West Women's Volleyball Media Day, it would not shock, or even surprise me, if the Wahine Team is picked 3rd, or 4th, behind Cal Poly and UCSB, maybe even LBSU, or some other team. The one Wahine player I will feel sorry for is Kate Lang. She will only have 1 player with any kind of experience to set to, which is Caylen Alexander. Every team will stack their block to stop Caylen Alexander leaving Kate Lang zero options after that. Not only that Robyn will have zero options to turn to when one of her Middles, or Hitters, goes south. That is how thin this Wahine Team is. For a Head Coach with, so called, Robyn's experience, that is uncalled for to leave a team this thin. You would have thought Robyn would have learned from Charlie Wade's situation this past year, but guess not. At least Charlie had a couple of options, but Robyn does not even have that with this current Wahine Team. It may be the case that this team is thin, but I don't see any great load of talent on the other Big West teams that can't be overcome. Where the teams end up at the end of the season will be a good measure of Robyn's coaching ability, and the other BW coaches as well.
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Post by 808empath on Jul 18, 2024 20:36:52 GMT -5
This coming season Hawaii fans will know just how good a Head Coach Robyn Ah Mow truly is. Robyn and her staff, not to mention, the Wahine Team, will be hard pressed to win the BWC Championship, even make it to the NCAA Tournament. This quite possibly will be Robyn's weakest team. Not to mention smallest, in numbers and also, physically. The Wahine Team could also be one of the smallest teams, physically, in the BWC. It is great that Robyn has this Wahine Team playing teams like Texas, Baylor, etc., but in the end it may not mean anything, if the Wahine Team cannot even win the BWC, or have a record to be considered for the NCAA Tournament. Right now, I am bracing myself for a downer year in Wahine Volleyball, so that I do not get disappointed when all is said and done. I am just hoping Robyn learns something about needing to be more communicative, when it comes to her Wahine Team and the Hawaii fans. If Robyn does not, it will ultimately be her downfall as the Wahine Head Coach. Cause Robyn seems to know how to coach players, but what she has not learned yet is the Administrative part of being a Head Coach, not to mention the recruiting part, also. Whenever I see that you have posted, I always brace myself for a downer. Lmfao. I so needed that laugh. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2024 20:37:20 GMT -5
Coming out of the Big West Women's Volleyball Media Day, it would not shock, or even surprise me, if the Wahine Team is picked 3rd, or 4th, behind Cal Poly and UCSB, maybe even LBSU, or some other team. The one Wahine player I will feel sorry for is Kate Lang. She will only have 1 player with any kind of experience to set to, which is Caylen Alexander. Every team will stack their block to stop Caylen Alexander leaving Kate Lang zero options after that. Not only that Robyn will have zero options to turn to when one of her Middles, or Hitters, goes south. That is how thin this Wahine Team is. For a Head Coach with, so called, Robyn's experience, that is uncalled for to leave a team this thin. You would have thought Robyn would have learned from Charlie Wade's situation this past year, but guess not. At least Charlie had a couple of options, but Robyn does not even have that with this current Wahine Team. It may be the case that this team is thin, but I don't see any great load of talent on the other Big West teams that can't be overcome. Where the teams end up at the end of the season will be a good measure of Robyn's coaching ability, and the other BW coaches as well. On paper, Cal Poly should run away with the BWC Championship, they have the most talent. So we will see what kind of Head Coach Caroline Walters truly is. But I do agree with what you mentioned. This season will be a good measuring stick on Robyn's coaching ability, and that of Caroline Walter's also.
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Post by noblesol on Jul 18, 2024 20:38:16 GMT -5
A fool multiplies words, speaks without knowledge or foresight, no wisdom can inform them.
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Post by justaUHfan on Jul 18, 2024 20:59:24 GMT -5
koavball please save us from all of the speculations. Lol give us good news 🤞🏼
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2024 21:18:02 GMT -5
koavball please save us from all of the speculations. Lol give us good news 🤞🏼 Thinking, we have not heard from koavball cause there are no news at all. What the Wahine have on the roster is what they will play with during the season. Which is not much, at least in D1 experience.
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Post by wahinefan on Jul 18, 2024 21:26:38 GMT -5
People, do not be shocked, or stunned, if the Wahine Team comes out of the Pre-Conference schedule, 0-10. Do not see 1 winnable match, in their Pre-Conference schedule. The Wahine will be underdog in every single match.
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Post by spikegreen on Jul 18, 2024 21:43:14 GMT -5
There’s no reason why the trio of Adeymi, Hakas and Alexander can’t carry this team. Sure they’re not 6’4” but if they can model their game after Arkansas’ with 3 pins under 6’ they should be fine. It will be all about ball control and Kates setting but with Leyva and Ikenaga, I think they will surprise people. Middles will be young but still very athletic, and I think Arquette may be used as a utility player like Robyn Ah Mow was in her freshman year where she was used as a hitter and a setter through the season. It’s not all doom and gloom.
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Post by VT Karen on Jul 18, 2024 22:10:08 GMT -5
There’s no reason why the trio of Adeymi, Hakas and Alexander can’t carry this team. Sure they’re not 6’4” but if they can model their game after Arkansas’ with 3 pins under 6’ they should be fine. It will be all about ball control and Kates setting but with Leyva and Ikenaga, I think they will surprise people. Middles will be young but still very athletic, and I think Arquette may be used as a utility player like Robyn Ah Mow was in her freshman year where she was used as a hitter and a setter through the season. It’s not all doom and gloom. I have high hopes for the trio you mentioned and I'm excited to see Stella more!
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Post by VT Karen on Jul 18, 2024 22:11:59 GMT -5
Knowing this, Robyn does not even try to recruit foreign players,. Tali Hakas says hello! I see that she's spiraling. And I ain't talking about Tali đź«
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Post by HawaiiMongoose on Jul 18, 2024 23:21:31 GMT -5
There’s no reason why the trio of Adeymi, Hakas and Alexander can’t carry this team. Sure they’re not 6’4” but if they can model their game after Arkansas’ with 3 pins under 6’ they should be fine. It will be all about ball control and Kates setting but with Leyva and Ikenaga, I think they will surprise people. Middles will be young but still very athletic, and I think Arquette may be used as a utility player like Robyn Ah Mow was in her freshman year where she was used as a hitter and a setter through the season. It’s not all doom and gloom. Can they? Yes. Will they? That remains to be seen. Adeymi, Hakas, and Alexander all had some great matches last season. They also had some poor matches. Moreover in the three spring matches, not one of the the three was consistently excellent. Guersching actually had the best cumulative stats across the spring matches. Moreover even if they're able to carry the team as starters, depth is a concern. We all hope that all of the players will make it though the season healthy, but injuries are a part of the game. Unless there's a late addition of one or two proven transfers to the roster, we'll be just a turned ankle away from putting a true freshman or walk-on into one of those starting positions. I'm not saying this to be pessimistic. It's just reality. I've followed Wahine volleyball closely for almost 35 years and can't remember ever being this thin at the pins. I understand that Guersching's departure was unexpected but still feel we should have been able to sign at least one solid transfer after she made her intentions known. And perhaps we will; it's not too late. But if we don't I'll be watching the team with crossed fingers this season.
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