But the question, is the Israel National Team training philosophy the same as Robyn's. Do they stress receiving and digging like Robyn does with her Outside Hitters. If not, that will put Tali Hakas way back when she does return to the Wahine Team. It would mean Tali Hakas would have to relearn everything over again. Since Tali Hakas, is still in Israel, not knowing when she will eventually be back in Hawaii, not looking forward to a much improved Tali Hakas, from last year, not a good thing. By the way, cannot compare Tali Hakas to Dimi and Spyros. Those two were so much better then Tali Hakas when they got to Hawaii, and further along in their development as a volleyball player then Tali Hakas. She has a long way to go to becoming a decent D1 volleyball player.
I can't find any evidence online that Israel's national women's team has played any international matches yet this summer. They do have upcoming qualification matches for the 2026 Women's European Championship, against Estonia and Slovenia on August 17th and August 27th respectively:
If Tali is planning to pay in those matches then she will be late returning to the Wahine, assuming that's her intention. However she might have just spent time this summer training with the national team and will be on a plane back to Honolulu in time for the start of Wahine practice on August 8th. We should know shortly.
Tali spending time training with the NT is much more beneficial for her. She is training with high level players and is also able to train a lot more since Israel is not bound by NCAA requirements, which limit the amount of hours Student Athletes can train with coaches and trainers.
I have no idea what arrangements Tali and Robyn have made but I would not be surprised if she reports when players are required to report. I also would not be surprised if Robyn allows Tali to remain in Israel a little longer and then report to camp a couple of weeks before the first match.
If a player can access high level training, I think it’s much better to continue that training as long as possible. I think Charlie Wade had done that with certain men players. He allowed guys like Dimi and Spyros to stay with the Greek NT as long as possible so they can reap the benefits of all the high level training.
Tali is a 21 year old mature women. It’s not like she is fresh out of HS and needs reps. She is getting plenty of reps with the Israeli NT. She has played with Kate long enough that they can get their timing down a lot sooner than others.
Israel is #64 in the world. Is she playing outside hitter or libero for her national team? She doesn't have the athleticism for a top-level pin hitter, and we all knew this coming in. I'll be intrigued if she made the permanent switch to libero this past year since we lose our projected starting libero after this year.
Tali spending time training with the NT is much more beneficial for her. She is training with high level players and is also able to train a lot more since Israel is not bound by NCAA requirements, which limit the amount of hours Student Athletes can train with coaches and trainers.
I have no idea what arrangements Tali and Robyn have made but I would not be surprised if she reports when players are required to report. I also would not be surprised if Robyn allows Tali to remain in Israel a little longer and then report to camp a couple of weeks before the first match.
If a player can access high level training, I think it’s much better to continue that training as long as possible. I think Charlie Wade had done that with certain men players. He allowed guys like Dimi and Spyros to stay with the Greek NT as long as possible so they can reap the benefits of all the high level training.
Tali is a 21 year old mature women. It’s not like she is fresh out of HS and needs reps. She is getting plenty of reps with the Israeli NT. She has played with Kate long enough that they can get their timing down a lot sooner than others.
Israel is #64 in the world. Is she playing outside hitter or libero for her national team? She doesn't have the athleticism for a top-level pin hitter, and we all knew this coming in. I'll be intrigued if she made the permanent switch to libero this past year since we lose our projected starting libero after this year.
I don't think the coaches are looking at her to be a top level OH. She is probably looking to fill the role similar to Riley Wagoner. She is good defender and energy player. Caylen and Stella are probably going to take the bulk of th swings.
I don't think Tali will move to libero. She is an OH on thw NT. Moving to L will hinder her development and I don't think Logan Tom will be happy with her starting OH only playing back row.
I don't think the coaches are looking at her to be a top level OH. She is probably looking to fill the role similar to Riley Wagoner. She is good defender and energy player. Caylen and Stella are probably going to take the bulk of the swings.
I don't think Tali will move to libero. She is an OH on the NT. Moving to L will hinder her development and I don't think Logan Tom will be happy with her starting OH only playing back row.
riley wagoner type player... WHAT DOY OU MEAN BY THAT.
Tali Hakas has a long way to go if she wants to be a Riley Wagoner type of player, in every facet of the game. Not staying in Hawaii will not help in her development toward that end. The reason Riley Wagoner become the player she is cause she spent the time in Hawaii developing her game.
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Tali spending time training with the NT is much more beneficial for her. She is training with high level players and is also able to train a lot more since Israel is not bound by NCAA requirements, which limit the amount of hours Student Athletes can train with coaches and trainers.
I have no idea what arrangements Tali and Robyn have made but I would not be surprised if she reports when players are required to report. I also would not be surprised if Robyn allows Tali to remain in Israel a little longer and then report to camp a couple of weeks before the first match.
If a player can access high level training, I think it’s much better to continue that training as long as possible. I think Charlie Wade had done that with certain men players. He allowed guys like Dimi and Spyros to stay with the Greek NT as long as possible so they can reap the benefits of all the high level training.
Tali is a 21 year old mature women. It’s not like she is fresh out of HS and needs reps. She is getting plenty of reps with the Israeli NT. She has played with Kate long enough that they can get their timing down a lot sooner than others.
Israel is #64 in the world. Is she playing outside hitter or libero for her national team? She doesn't have the athleticism for a top-level pin hitter, and we all knew this coming in. I'll be intrigued if she made the permanent switch to libero this past year since we lose our projected starting libero after this year.
I think Tali has plenty of athleticism. It's her technique that is spotty e.g. crunching when she hits, broad jumping, slow arm swing especially when she has to adjust. Basically all the issues Wags had.
But the question, is the Israel National Team training philosophy the same as Robyn's. Do they stress receiving and digging like Robyn does with her Outside Hitters. If not, that will put Tali Hakas way back when she does return to the Wahine Team. It would mean Tali Hakas would have to relearn everything over again. Since Tali Hakas, is still in Israel, not knowing when she will eventually be back in Hawaii, not looking forward to a much improved Tali Hakas, from last year, not a good thing. By the way, cannot compare Tali Hakas to Dimi and Spyros. Those two were so much better then Tali Hakas when they got to Hawaii, and further along in their development as a volleyball player then Tali Hakas. She has a long way to go to becoming a decent D1 volleyball player.
Please stop pretending like you know what you’re talking about.
I guess we'll have to see how our incoming freshmen develop, but this might be the first time in a looong time that our OHs aren't going to be protected by the diversion of a "All !st Team BW-Level" middle. From Amber, Kennedi, Sky Williams, Natasha Burns, Emily Maglio, Annie Mitchum, Olivia McGill, etc., they all made things much easier on the outside hitters. There will be a lot fewer 1:1 situations for our OHs this year. Robyn has shown that she is willing to adapt her offense to her personnel. Maybe she'll try having the setters run a quicker offense?
Tali Hakas has a long way to go if she wants to be a Riley Wagoner type of player, in every facet of the game. Not staying in Hawaii will not help in her development toward that end. The reason Riley Wagoner become the player she is cause she spent the time in Hawaii developing her game.
She had nowhere else to go?
I love me some Wags and her purse brought a lot of comedic relief to this board but I expect Tali to be better than Wags sooner rather than later.
If he is an Associate, a certain "fan" should be happy.
On the page showing the 2023 roster, Kaleo is shown as an Associate Coach. Then, when you click on his FULL BIO (at the link that Wang Pu provided), he's shown as an Associate Coach. Something's not right. Let's wait and see how the 2024 roster page shows his job title.
Maybe instead of paying for a 4th coach, UH will give Kaleo a pay raise, a new title and added responsibility. He will be an assistant coach and a 4th coach…LOL
Probably save money that.
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Responsibility:
Associate Coach: An associate coach typically has more responsibility than an assistant coach. They might oversee specific aspects of the team, such as offense, defense, or recruiting. They collaborate closely with the head coach and may even step in when the head coach is absent.
Assistant Coach: Assistant coaches generally have narrower responsibilities. They focus on specific areas (like working with hitters, setters, or blockers) and assist the head coach in implementing their vision.
In summary, while both roles contribute to the team’s success, an associate coach tends to have more responsibility and slightly higher pay compared to an assistant coach. Keep in mind that individual programs and institutions may have variations in these roles. If you’re considering a coaching career, understanding these distinctions can help you make informed decisions! 😊
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