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Post by HawaiiMongoose on Aug 8, 2024 14:03:58 GMT -5
Fall practice is underway. Looks like there won't be any more roster additions. I just hope they can stay healthy. I think a couple of recent events probably upset the apple cart of this team. The late transfer of Paula and Malinah opting out this season have caused some headaches for the coaches so this is probably a “just do with what we have” season. We still have some talent but lack experience and depth. It was possible that there were players in the portal that we could have snagged but maybe the coaches didn’t feel like they were worth the scholarship and will hold those for next season. I don’t think Robyn wants roster fillers on the team so it would have been counterproductive to just offer. Biondi has one scholarship for 2025. Reid has the other. I’m not sure what the situation is with Malinah and whether the coach will hold one open for her or not. If not, think we need one more experienced pin. The thing about roster fillers is that they at least ensure you've got enough healthy bodies to run full practices if a couple of players get dinged up. They also ensure you don't run out of players at any position and have to move someone from a role they're well-prepared for to a role they aren't. For those reasons choosing to pass on less capable late additions with only a single season of eligibility and "just do with what we have" is risky. IMHO the staff should have pulled the trigger on a Plan B by now and the fact that they are either unprepared or unwilling to do so is concerning. Still hoping for the best though, since there's some great talent and strong leadership on this team and they should do well if the injury bug doesn't bite.
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Post by hapaguy on Aug 8, 2024 14:51:40 GMT -5
Speaking of Chalei Reid, she posted on her IG a picture of her in the Kahuku uniform with the caption "Guess who's back..." Love it! She is a Red Raider through and through. I hope she has a safe yet successful senior season! Me too
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 8, 2024 14:58:01 GMT -5
I think a couple of recent events probably upset the apple cart of this team. The late transfer of Paula and Malinah opting out this season have caused some headaches for the coaches so this is probably a “just do with what we have” season. We still have some talent but lack experience and depth. It was possible that there were players in the portal that we could have snagged but maybe the coaches didn’t feel like they were worth the scholarship and will hold those for next season. I don’t think Robyn wants roster fillers on the team so it would have been counterproductive to just offer. Biondi has one scholarship for 2025. Reid has the other. I’m not sure what the situation is with Malinah and whether the coach will hold one open for her or not. If not, think we need one more experienced pin. The thing about roster fillers is that they at least ensure you've got enough healthy bodies to run full practices if a couple of players get dinged up. They also ensure you don't run out of players at any position and have to move someone from a role they're well-prepared for to a role they aren't. For those reasons choosing to pass on less capable late additions with only a single season of eligibility and "just do with what we have" is risky. IMHO the staff should have pulled the trigger on a Plan B by now and the fact that they are either unprepared or unwilling to do so is concerning. Still hoping for the best though, since there's some great talent and strong leadership on this team and they should do well if the injury bug doesn't bite. Can’t say I agree. “Roster Fillers” that don’t have a real chance at playing can’t be anymore helpful in 6 on 6 then some men’s players they can find on the island. And although I know how much we would have loved experienced players to look forward to this season, at least we know that this group will be getting a ton of experience that can combine with some stronger depth and challengers next year for an overall stronger team I’m hoping we use everyone that can make an actual impact but I don’t think we really need to overly pry into the decision to keep the roster small. We’ve had rosters with plenty of depth with players given opportunities but they still chose elsewhere, we had this season with Paula as an almost lock to start and she still leaves. Players are going to do what they are going to do, at least the ones who want to be at Hawaii are here and the coaches can use this as an example of how they want to do right by the athletes that are all in. All about staying healthy but we’ve had 2 middles on the roster in recent history that were able to compete all season at a high level. Even with growing pains, they should be expected and you coach your team through it. I don’t think filling with transfers so you don’t have to coach as hard is the answer for everyone.
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Post by JT on Aug 8, 2024 16:40:05 GMT -5
Weird question for local fans... what is the situation like for at-the-door ticket purchasing nowadays? My sister and I will likely be flying out there Oct 14 (iirc), supposedly arriving at 2pm. Whatever day it is there's a home match starting at 5pm. Three hours out to be plenty of time to pick up bags, get to a hotel, and then get up to campus... maybe. So, with the possibility of there not being enough time, I don't want to buy tickets beforehand. BUT... I don't want to have my only option be up in the nosebleed sections, if we do have time (and feel up to it after the flight). Thus, my question. Are decent tickets (I don't expect to be able to get something at the end-court first row) likely to be available the afternoon of the match?
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Post by 5100 on Aug 8, 2024 16:44:04 GMT -5
Roster fillers can be "valuable in practice situations," as Shoji used to say, and a few may develop enough to see time here or there, or even be significant enough contributors later in their career. Reese Mane was a roster filler last year, and if depth wasn't such an issue, Monahan is probably a roster filler type as well considering her previous stats.
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Post by 2left on Aug 8, 2024 17:01:29 GMT -5
Weird question for local fans... what is the situation like for at-the-door ticket purchasing nowadays? My sister and I will likely be flying out there Oct 14 (iirc), supposedly arriving at 2pm. Whatever day it is there's a home match starting at 5pm. Three hours out to be plenty of time to pick up bags, get to a hotel, and then get up to campus... maybe. So, with the possibility of there not being enough time, I don't want to buy tickets beforehand. BUT... I don't want to have my only option be up in the nosebleed sections, if we do have time (and feel up to it after the flight). Thus, my question. Are decent tickets (I don't expect to be able to get something at the end-court first row) likely to be available the afternoon of the match? UH has a dedicated page on SeatGeek for resale of tickets. Can almost always find good seats at good prices. It's hard to find on the Athletics website: seatgeek.com/promo/hawaii-rainbow-warriors?aid=16088&pid=integration&rid=17&utm_medium=partnership&utm_source=hawaii_sponsorship&utm_campaign=integration
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Post by brooselee on Aug 8, 2024 17:07:08 GMT -5
We don’t really need roster filler because guys like Sky, Nick and even Kaleo can play the B team. If I was the coach, I would rather have the guys in the B team since they jump higher and hit harder.
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Post by 808empath on Aug 8, 2024 17:10:46 GMT -5
The thing about roster fillers is that they at least ensure you've got enough healthy bodies to run full practices if a couple of players get dinged up. They also ensure you don't run out of players at any position and have to move someone from a role they're well-prepared for to a role they aren't. For those reasons choosing to pass on less capable late additions with only a single season of eligibility and "just do with what we have" is risky. IMHO the staff should have pulled the trigger on a Plan B by now and the fact that they are either unprepared or unwilling to do so is concerning. Still hoping for the best though, since there's some great talent and strong leadership on this team and they should do well if the injury bug doesn't bite. Can’t say I agree. “Roster Fillers” that don’t have a real chance at playing can’t be anymore helpful in 6 on 6 then some men’s players they can find on the island. And although I know how much we would have loved experienced players to look forward to this season, at least we know that this group will be getting a ton of experience that can combine with some stronger depth and challengers next year for an overall stronger team I’m hoping we use everyone that can make an actual impact but I don’t think we really need to overly pry into the decision to keep the roster small. We’ve had rosters with plenty of depth with players given opportunities but they still chose elsewhere, we had this season with Paula as an almost lock to start and she still leaves. Players are going to do what they are going to do, at least the ones who want to be at Hawaii are here and the coaches can use this as an example of how they want to do right by the athletes that are all in. All about staying healthy but we’ve had 2 middles on the roster in recent history that were able to compete all season at a high level. Even with growing pains, they should be expected and you coach your team through it. I don’t think filling with transfers so you don’t have to coach as hard is the answer for everyone. Idk about this, Hawaii is 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster. Having more athletes on the roster would be helpful. But what do I know I'm just a fan/spectator of the sport I was watching since I was 8.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 8, 2024 17:21:06 GMT -5
I think a couple of recent events probably upset the apple cart of this team. The late transfer of Paula and Malinah opting out this season have caused some headaches for the coaches so this is probably a “just do with what we have” season. We still have some talent but lack experience and depth. It was possible that there were players in the portal that we could have snagged but maybe the coaches didn’t feel like they were worth the scholarship and will hold those for next season. I don’t think Robyn wants roster fillers on the team so it would have been counterproductive to just offer. Biondi has one scholarship for 2025. Reid has the other. I’m not sure what the situation is with Malinah and whether the coach will hold one open for her or not. If not, think we need one more experienced pin. The thing about roster fillers is that they at least ensure you've got enough healthy bodies to run full practices if a couple of players get dinged up. They also ensure you don't run out of players at any position and have to move someone from a role they're well-prepared for to a role they aren't. For those reasons choosing to pass on less capable late additions with only a single season of eligibility and "just do with what we have" is risky. IMHO the staff should have pulled the trigger on a Plan B by now and the fact that they are either unprepared or unwilling to do so is concerning. Still hoping for the best though, since there's some great talent and strong leadership on this team and they should do well if the injury bug doesn't bite. Roster fillers also give coaches more gray hair and stress so maybe the UH coaches doesn’t want that. Maybe the UH coaches would rather work less so everyone on the team get more reps. More players, less rep for those who need them. Didn’t Charlie Wade cut a few players this past season to give those who contributed more reps? NCAA only allow for 20 hours of practice per week and a large team could be problematic in terms of getting those frontline players needed reps.
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Post by Dancing in the Flames on Aug 8, 2024 17:35:34 GMT -5
when you have the roster size of a SWAC team (I'm sorry). SMFH
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Post by brooselee on Aug 8, 2024 17:40:13 GMT -5
Can’t say I agree. “Roster Fillers” that don’t have a real chance at playing can’t be anymore helpful in 6 on 6 then some men’s players they can find on the island. And although I know how much we would have loved experienced players to look forward to this season, at least we know that this group will be getting a ton of experience that can combine with some stronger depth and challengers next year for an overall stronger team I’m hoping we use everyone that can make an actual impact but I don’t think we really need to overly pry into the decision to keep the roster small. We’ve had rosters with plenty of depth with players given opportunities but they still chose elsewhere, we had this season with Paula as an almost lock to start and she still leaves. Players are going to do what they are going to do, at least the ones who want to be at Hawaii are here and the coaches can use this as an example of how they want to do right by the athletes that are all in. All about staying healthy but we’ve had 2 middles on the roster in recent history that were able to compete all season at a high level. Even with growing pains, they should be expected and you coach your team through it. I don’t think filling with transfers so you don’t have to coach as hard is the answer for everyone. Idk about this, Hawaii is 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster. Having more athletes on the roster would be helpful. But what do I know I'm just a fan/spectator of the sport I was watching since I was 8. That why I think the freshmen will be thrown into the fire this season. They will get tons of reps to assure they are ready to play when called upon. Maybe a smaller will allow for Adrianna, Maddie and Mili to get tons of reps and also in multiple positions so they can fill areas of need. Mili….MB/OPP/OH Adrianna…S/OH/OPP Maddie….MB/OPP Morghn is not a freshman but she will probably get workout at MB/OPP We do have a lot of versatility but not a lot of experience playing together. Let’s hope all the 2 a days will at least give the team some answers.
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Post by 808empath on Aug 8, 2024 18:58:55 GMT -5
Idk about this, Hawaii is 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster. Having more athletes on the roster would be helpful. But what do I know I'm just a fan/spectator of the sport I was watching since I was 8. That why I think the freshmen will be thrown into the fire this season. They will get tons of reps to assure they are ready to play when called upon. Maybe a smaller will allow for Adrianna, Maddie and Mili to get tons of reps and also in multiple positions so they can fill areas of need. Mili….MB/OPP/OH Adrianna…S/OH/OPP Maddie….MB/OPP Morghn is not a freshman but she will probably get workout at MB/OPP We do have a lot of versatility but not a lot of experience playing together. Let’s hope all the 2 a days will at least give the team some answers. Even the freshman. They're young still. This team will have its ups and downs. A lot of growing pains. I'm hopeful it'll be like the 2004 squad, with all the young athletes. But there's not a Victoria Prince or Kanoe Kamana'o or a phenomenal passer like Susie Boogaard on this team.
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 8, 2024 19:08:04 GMT -5
That why I think the freshmen will be thrown into the fire this season. They will get tons of reps to assure they are ready to play when called upon. Maybe a smaller will allow for Adrianna, Maddie and Mili to get tons of reps and also in multiple positions so they can fill areas of need. Mili….MB/OPP/OH Adrianna…S/OH/OPP Maddie….MB/OPP Morghn is not a freshman but she will probably get workout at MB/OPP We do have a lot of versatility but not a lot of experience playing together. Let’s hope all the 2 a days will at least give the team some answers. Even the freshman. They're young still. This team will have its ups and downs. A lot of growing pains. I'm hopeful it'll be like the 2004 squad, with all the young athletes. { But there's not a Victoria Prince or Kanoe Kamana'o or a phenomenal passer like Susie Boogaard on this team. At the moment at least. Let’s hope it’s a blessing in disguise that we have these many needs for new major role players after someone like Amber isn’t around. Every player on the roster last year and this year’s recruits coming in, know how big her impact on the program was. I would think every player on this roster is looking to take part in being “The Woman” this new era of Wahine volleyball, so just have to see who really steps up and has put in that off season work since spring.
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Post by rainbowcard on Aug 8, 2024 19:24:05 GMT -5
Even the freshman. They're young still. This team will have its ups and downs. A lot of growing pains. I'm hopeful it'll be like the 2004 squad, with all the young athletes. { But there's not a Victoria Prince or Kanoe Kamana'o or a phenomenal passer like Susie Boogaard on this team. At the moment at least. Let’s hope it’s a blessing in disguise that we have these many needs for new major role players after someone like Amber isn’t around. Every player on the roster last year and this year’s recruits coming in, know how big her impact on the program was. I would think every player on this roster is looking to take part in being “The Woman” this new era of Wahine volleyball, so just have to see who really steps up and has put in that off season work since spring. I also think Ambers accolades really should help get recruits in the middle blocker position so I hope to see some other recruits for that position down the road. I know that the 2025 middle recruit was considered a “project” but her videos were ….
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Post by wahinefan on Aug 8, 2024 19:37:19 GMT -5
Need to remember, after this year, the scholarship maximum for each team will go from 12 to 18, most likely. Robyn and staff will need to invest a lot of time recruiting, after this season is done. Robyn will need to maximize the additional scholarships that will be available to each D1 team.
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