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Post by islandman on Sept 14, 2024 15:59:20 GMT -5
I read that collegiate athletes from outside Hawai’i are charged at the in state tuition rate. Using $12.2k/year for in-state tuition and fees — manoa.hawaii.edu/fas/cost/2023-2024-cost-of-attendance/- $73.2k/year to fund an additional six scholarships. - $732k funding commitment required to fund an additional six scholarships over the ten year life of the House settlement with no annual inflation to tuition. - $839k funding commitment required to fund an additional six scholarships over the ten year life of the House settlement with 3% annual inflation to tuition. Schools will have the option to fund whatever amount of scholarships they can or want to up to the new roster limits. In other words, if the new limit will be 18 for women's volleyball, UH can choose to give scholarships to only 12 or 13 players . Same for men's volleyball .
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Post by 808empath on Sept 14, 2024 16:00:57 GMT -5
Got my money's worth once again and once again was considering leaving after Hawaii got trounced the 1st two sets. Glad I didn't as that was a nice comeback. If anything these young ladies are resilient. My two cents for what it's worth: our defense is what is going to keep us in matches this year. We don't have the overall firepower to dominate these kinds of teams so we rely on our defense to keep us in the match. We keep digging, digging, digging, until the other team makes a mistake or we finally get a good transition and swing on offense. Also, last night demonstrated that we have ZERO depth which is what happens when you have such a small roster. At one point in the match Stella was hitting negative 400 hundred something but she never came out because who you gonna put in for her? Mane? She can't pass. There's literally no one on the bench to come in when one of our pin hitters is having an off night. Also, I think Hakas plays better on the left. She seems more comfortable hitting there. She's this years RW with all the tipping though. I wish she would just swing away and challenge the block more rather than just rolling the ball over which is essentially a free ball for the other team to convert. And finally, as Caylen goes so goes the team. I really don't see anyone that can carry the team if Caylen has an off night. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Tyla a Middle in high school and then converted to a pin hitter in college? Or did I get my information mixed up? 🤦🏻♂️
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Post by islandman on Sept 14, 2024 16:05:36 GMT -5
I read that collegiate athletes from outside Hawai’i are charged at the in state tuition rate. I think players /students from certain western states under the WUE program can pay 150% of the UH resident tuition, if they are accepted via that program
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Sept 14, 2024 16:45:36 GMT -5
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Post by noblesol on Sept 14, 2024 17:09:11 GMT -5
Using $12.2k/year for in-state tuition and fees — manoa.hawaii.edu/fas/cost/2023-2024-cost-of-attendance/- $73.2k/year to fund an additional six scholarships. - $732k funding commitment required to fund an additional six scholarships over the ten year life of the House settlement with no annual inflation to tuition. - $839k funding commitment required to fund an additional six scholarships over the ten year life of the House settlement with 3% annual inflation to tuition. Schools will have the option to fund whatever amount of scholarships they can or want to up to the new roster limits. In other words, if the new limit will be 18 for women's volleyball, UH can choose to give scholarships to only 12 or 13 players . Same for men's volleyball . Of course and understood...this was an exercise in establishing the approximate amount of commitment in alignment with the max allowed number of additional scholarships under the current settlement outline as applied to Hawai'i WVB. The WVB program would of course have the option to cheapen their approach. Because as I've repeatedly been drumming, as a non-P4 school the election of revenue sharing with roster caps and additional scholarships is optional, including the number of scholarships offered up to the cap. Individual school Title IX strategies, budget constraints, athletic department tiering strategies, and local fundraising, university, and political support may all apply in what ultimately the AD may draft implementation plans for. And, again, there is not a settlement yet, we don't know when there will be one, we don't know what changes there will be in the final wording of it, and no one yet has an approved implementation plan, fully budgeted and University and State supported, and no one is allowed to recruit to what they speculate might be.
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Post by 2left on Sept 14, 2024 17:31:31 GMT -5
Got my money's worth once again and once again was considering leaving after Hawaii got trounced the 1st two sets. Glad I didn't as that was a nice comeback. If anything these young ladies are resilient. My two cents for what it's worth: our defense is what is going to keep us in matches this year. We don't have the overall firepower to dominate these kinds of teams so we rely on our defense to keep us in the match. We keep digging, digging, digging, until the other team makes a mistake or we finally get a good transition and swing on offense. Also, last night demonstrated that we have ZERO depth which is what happens when you have such a small roster. At one point in the match Stella was hitting negative 400 hundred something but she never came out because who you gonna put in for her? Mane? She can't pass. There's literally no one on the bench to come in when one of our pin hitters is having an off night. Also, I think Hakas plays better on the left. She seems more comfortable hitting there. She's this years RW with all the tipping though. I wish she would just swing away and challenge the block more rather than just rolling the ball over which is essentially a free ball for the other team to convert. And finally, as Caylen goes so goes the team. I really don't see anyone that can carry the team if Caylen has an off night. Having to reverse sweep OSU indicates where the talent level is, and it's the coaching and individual effort that gets them the wins this year.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 14, 2024 17:32:35 GMT -5
Schools will have the option to fund whatever amount of scholarships they can or want to up to the new roster limits. In other words, if the new limit will be 18 for women's volleyball, UH can choose to give scholarships to only 12 or 13 players . Same for men's volleyball . Of course and understood...this was an exercise in establishing the approximate amount of commitment in alignment with the max allowed number of additional scholarships under the current settlement outline as applied to Hawai'i WVB. The WVB program would of course have the option to cheapen their approach. Because as I've repeatedly been drumming, as a non-P4 school the election of revenue sharing with roster caps and additional scholarships is optional, including the number of scholarships offered up to the cap. Individual school Title IX strategies, budget constraints, athletic department tiering strategies, and local fundraising, university, and political support may all apply in what ultimately the AD may draft implementation plans for. And, again, there is not a settlement yet, we don't know when there will be one, we don't know what changes there will be in the final wording of it, and no one yet has an approved implementation plan, fully budgeted and University and State supported, and no one is allowed to recruit to what they speculate might be. For both teams, they not only have Koa Anuenue(main athletic supplemental fund raising organization), but they also have booster clubs which specifically funds the team, through donations or money. Hawai’i has the supplemental funding to fund 18 scholarships. They have and have had deep pocket donors whenever they needed the help. UH would budget more for scholies, while relying on outside funding for things that can be funded through donations.
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Post by noblesol on Sept 14, 2024 18:02:56 GMT -5
Of course and understood...this was an exercise in establishing the approximate amount of commitment in alignment with the max allowed number of additional scholarships under the current settlement outline as applied to Hawai'i WVB. The WVB program would of course have the option to cheapen their approach. Because as I've repeatedly been drumming, as a non-P4 school the election of revenue sharing with roster caps and additional scholarships is optional, including the number of scholarships offered up to the cap. Individual school Title IX strategies, budget constraints, athletic department tiering strategies, and local fundraising, university, and political support may all apply in what ultimately the AD may draft implementation plans for. And, again, there is not a settlement yet, we don't know when there will be one, we don't know what changes there will be in the final wording of it, and no one yet has an approved implementation plan, fully budgeted and University and State supported, and no one is allowed to recruit to what they speculate might be. For both teams, they not only have Koa Anuenue(main athletic supplemental fund raising organization), but they also have booster clubs which specifically funds the team, through donations or money. Hawai’i has the supplemental funding to fund 18 scholarships. They have and have had deep pocket donors whenever they needed the help. UH would budget more for scholies, while relying on outside funding for things that can be funded through donations. There are at least a couple of new 'settlement' wrinkles to consider in how the AD would address local fundraising outside outside the formal University and State supported budget. NIL primarily, and potentially revenue sharing. Currently NIL collectives are outside of the control of the school. The school doesn't direct the collective what to do with their money. It's a business relationship between the collective and whatever players they have interest in. It has led to some obvious inequities in how athletes get treated from school to school, and program to program within a school. The current settlement negotiations are stuck on what amount of control the schools get over NIL collective expenditures. The NCAA and P4 schools want max control. The Judge and other parties to the agreement say not so fast. This issue is a major settlement sticking point and caused some mumbling about going to trial. As for revenue sharing its impact to fundraising efforts is less easy to see, because how individual program revenue is counted is opaque to the fanbase. Are local fundraising efforts considered as part of program revenue? Would school directed NIL expenditures be part of revenue? The school would probably argue no. But it may hinge on the outcome of the settlement negotiations or trial. If the settlement ultimately is clear on the subject, or opaque as well on what exactly is and isn't revenue, may change how the AD drafts implementation plans with fundraising strategies.
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Post by thor on Sept 14, 2024 18:44:28 GMT -5
Stoked that Wahine were able to squeeze out another 5 set win. Last night was as shakey a performance as any this season but once again our team grit saved the day. Beavers gave us fits and obviously scouted us well. We were exposed big time. Every one of our players has things to work on. Caylen must keep her serves in, Kate needs to locate her sets better to the middles/pins so they can take a full swing. Hakas needs work on her hitting skills, Bamis her blocking, overall passing needs improvement and transition game needs work. Too many tip shots hitting the floor this week. After seeing last nights match I’m sure Texas State coaching staff got themselves a lot of ammo for tonight’s rematch. I hope we have answers and are making the adjustments.
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Post by hapaguy on Sept 14, 2024 20:06:12 GMT -5
Got my money's worth once again and once again was considering leaving after Hawaii got trounced the 1st two sets. Glad I didn't as that was a nice comeback. If anything these young ladies are resilient. My two cents for what it's worth: our defense is what is going to keep us in matches this year. We don't have the overall firepower to dominate these kinds of teams so we rely on our defense to keep us in the match. We keep digging, digging, digging, until the other team makes a mistake or we finally get a good transition and swing on offense. Also, last night demonstrated that we have ZERO depth which is what happens when you have such a small roster. At one point in the match Stella was hitting negative 400 hundred something but she never came out because who you gonna put in for her? Mane? She can't pass. There's literally no one on the bench to come in when one of our pin hitters is having an off night. Also, I think Hakas plays better on the left. She seems more comfortable hitting there. She's this years RW with all the tipping though. I wish she would just swing away and challenge the block more rather than just rolling the ball over which is essentially a free ball for the other team to convert. And finally, as Caylen goes so goes the team. I really don't see anyone that can carry the team if Caylen has an off night. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Tyla a Middle in high school and then converted to a pin hitter in college? Or did I get my information mixed up? 🤦🏻♂️ I think you're correct. I looked at the roster at Casper College and she was listed as a RS/OH. but I couldn't find anything about what position she played for the Na Alii. At her height though in Hawaii she was probably a middle in HS.
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Post by hapaguy on Sept 14, 2024 20:19:29 GMT -5
Got my money's worth once again and once again was considering leaving after Hawaii got trounced the 1st two sets. Glad I didn't as that was a nice comeback. If anything these young ladies are resilient. My two cents for what it's worth: our defense is what is going to keep us in matches this year. We don't have the overall firepower to dominate these kinds of teams so we rely on our defense to keep us in the match. We keep digging, digging, digging, until the other team makes a mistake or we finally get a good transition and swing on offense. Also, last night demonstrated that we have ZERO depth which is what happens when you have such a small roster. At one point in the match Stella was hitting negative 400 hundred something but she never came out because who you gonna put in for her? Mane? She can't pass. There's literally no one on the bench to come in when one of our pin hitters is having an off night. Also, I think Hakas plays better on the left. She seems more comfortable hitting there. She's this years RW with all the tipping though. I wish she would just swing away and challenge the block more rather than just rolling the ball over which is essentially a free ball for the other team to convert. And finally, as Caylen goes so goes the team. I really don't see anyone that can carry the team if Caylen has an off night. Having to reverse sweep OSU indicates where the talent level is Oregon State is not very good and hasn't been good for a while now so not sure what that says about our team that we struggled and had to reverse sweep them at home no less. The funny thing is my daughter and I were talking with some of the other boosters last night and one of them was mentioning that the talent level of this team is down compared to years past and one of them joked that with the talent level we have on this team he would kill for a player like Tai Manu Olevao...and we all laughed.
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Post by noblesol on Sept 14, 2024 20:47:06 GMT -5
Having to reverse sweep OSU indicates where the talent level is Oregon State is not very good and hasn't been good for a while now so not sure what that says about our team that we struggled and had to reverse sweep them at home no less. The funny thing is my daughter and I were talking with some of the other boosters last night and one of them was mentioning that the talent level of this team is down compared to years past and one of them joked that with the talent level we have on this team he would kill for a player like Tai Manu Olevao...and we all laughed. TMO had a good swing and could put up a block. But her passing, digging, and ball handling were poor. And she had her streaks of hitting where she'd get blocked off the court and her attack errors piled up. And then it became a mental thing for her. And she was left side only, ineffective on the right. TMO wouldn't of been the answer for this squad. A healthy Greeley or Taylor, definitely. TMO, not so much.
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Post by hapaguy on Sept 14, 2024 20:57:19 GMT -5
Oregon State is not very good and hasn't been good for a while now so not sure what that says about our team that we struggled and had to reverse sweep them at home no less. The funny thing is my daughter and I were talking with some of the other boosters last night and one of them was mentioning that the talent level of this team is down compared to years past and one of them joked that with the talent level we have on this team he would kill for a player like Tai Manu Olevao...and we all laughed. TMO had a good swing and could put up a block. But her passing, digging, and ball handling were poor. And she had her streaks of hitting where she'd get blocked off the court and her attack errors piled up. And then it became a mental thing for her. And she was left side only, ineffective on the right. TMO wouldn't of been the answer for this squad. A healthy Greeley or Taylor, definitely. TMO, not so much. LOL@ noblesol...I think you're missing the point of his comment. Think about it some more and maybe it will come to you...LOL
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Post by hwnstunner on Sept 14, 2024 20:58:33 GMT -5
I know we still have a match against Texas State tonight and UNLV, Texas and Baylor next week. But for the sake of conversation, what is everyone's thoughts on the 2023 versus 2024 team six matches in?
2023: Northwestern (W), San Diego (W), Oregon (L), USC (W), USC (W), Liberty (L) 2024: SMU (W), Sand Diego (W), Pepperdine (L), Pepperdine (W), Texas State (W), Oregon State (W)
Seems like the overall non-conference schedule last year and this year is pretty even. Six games in Hawaii had similar records, but avoided this year a horrible 3-2 loss to Oregon State that was Liberty in 2023. Lots more non-conference to go, but curious to hear what comparisons we can make this year and last. There are parts of this year that are surprisingly stronger this year than last, when considering how many new players there are (i.e. back grow defense).
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Post by noblesol on Sept 14, 2024 21:13:02 GMT -5
TMO had a good swing and could put up a block. But her passing, digging, and ball handling were poor. And she had her streaks of hitting where she'd get blocked off the court and her attack errors piled up. And then it became a mental thing for her. And she was left side only, ineffective on the right. TMO wouldn't of been the answer for this squad. A healthy Greeley or Taylor, definitely. TMO, not so much. LOL@ noblesol...I think you're missing the point of his comment. Think about it some more and maybe it will come to you...LOL I got the point of it for sure. A couple of old 'boosters' bitching and moaning about their 5-1 team. Starting to wonder about that old 'boosters' crowd.
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