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Post by VT Karen on Oct 3, 2024 21:34:11 GMT -5
MVB — BW and MPSF strength wise are comparable, but I'd give a slight edge to the BW. The MPFS currently has nine teams and that could be beneficial for filling out a schedule. If they ever stand up a BIG10 MVB conference though, UCLA and USC would depart. Stanford might too. So that's a negative. Traditional rivalries might lean more to staying with Big West, but not a big reason to stay or go. WBVB — going to the MPSF would be an upgrade. WVB — MWC would be an upgrade. The remaining members of the future MWC: San Jose State [KPI=38]; UTEP [40]; UNLV [63]; Wyoming [64]; New Mexico [121]; Nevada [155]; Air Force [KPI 280]. Hawai'i KPI=74. Travel would be a negative, but improved conference strength a positive. Fewer teams to schedule in conference could be positive or negative. Positive in that it frees up more dates for non-conference foes, but negative in that it's not easy to fill those extra dates with good foes unless Hawai'i is willing to travel more in non-conference. I'm for Hawaii moving to the MWC as a full member. Besides the fact that the travel would be longer, I'm not sure what the other negatives could be and am open to hearing what other posters have to say.
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 3, 2024 21:59:55 GMT -5
It might be good for WVB, but what about the other Hawaii Sports Teams, Women's Water Polo, Men's Volleyball, Women's Basketball, Men's Basketball, Women's Beach Team, Softball Team, Baseball Team, M & W Golf Teams, M & W Tennis Teams, Swim and Diving Teams, and Sailing Teams. Question, will the MPSF take Hawaii Teams, that the MWC does not participate in?
People, you cannot only think about how it effect the Wahine Volleyball Team, but how it would effect all Hawaii Sport Teams.
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Post by staticb on Oct 3, 2024 22:25:32 GMT -5
It might be good for WVB, but what about the other Hawaii Sports Teams, Women's Water Polo, Men's Volleyball, Women's Basketball, Men's Basketball, Women's Beach Team, Softball Team, Baseball Team, M & W Golf Teams, M & W Tennis Teams, Swim and Diving Teams, and Sailing Teams. Question, will the MPSF take Hawaii Teams, that the MWC does not participate in? People, you cannot only think about how it effect the Wahine Volleyball Team, but how it would effect all Hawaii Sport Teams. Men's Basketball is far superior, which is why we'll likely go. The revenue increase would help the program. The MPSF will almost assuredly take us. The Meet Sports won't really be affected as it's one date. The big bummer is baseball. Hawaii will have to find a new home for Men's Vball and Beach if the Big West kicks us out.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 3, 2024 22:34:04 GMT -5
It might be good for WVB, but what about the other Hawaii Sports Teams, Women's Water Polo, Men's Volleyball, Women's Basketball, Men's Basketball, Women's Beach Team, Softball Team, Baseball Team, M & W Golf Teams, M & W Tennis Teams, Swim and Diving Teams, and Sailing Teams. Question, will the MPSF take Hawaii Teams, that the MWC does not participate in? People, you cannot only think about how it effect the Wahine Volleyball Team, but how it would effect all Hawaii Sport Teams. Men's Basketball is far superior, which is why we'll likely go. The revenue increase would help the program. The MPSF will almost assuredly take us. The Meet Sports won't really be affected as it's one date. The big bummer is baseball. Hawaii will have to find a new home for Men's Vball and Beach if the Big West kicks us out. Where did pac schools go for beach?
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Post by vballfreak808 on Oct 3, 2024 22:36:53 GMT -5
Men's Basketball is far superior, which is why we'll likely go. The revenue increase would help the program. The MPSF will almost assuredly take us. The Meet Sports won't really be affected as it's one date. The big bummer is baseball. Hawaii will have to find a new home for Men's Vball and Beach if the Big West kicks us out. Where did pac schools go for beach? Cal, Oregon, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Washington are in the MPSF with GCU (before they head to the WCC). Arizona, Arizona State and Utah are in the Big 12 (only 4 schools but no announcement of what is happening with that this year yet).
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Post by VT Karen on Oct 3, 2024 22:41:13 GMT -5
It might be good for WVB, but what about the other Hawaii Sports Teams, Women's Water Polo, Men's Volleyball, Women's Basketball, Men's Basketball, Women's Beach Team, Softball Team, Baseball Team, M & W Golf Teams, M & W Tennis Teams, Swim and Diving Teams, and Sailing Teams. Question, will the MPSF take Hawaii Teams, that the MWC does not participate in? People, you cannot only think about how it effect the Wahine Volleyball Team, but how it would effect all Hawaii Sport Teams. Men's Basketball is far superior, which is why we'll likely go. The revenue increase would help the program. The MPSF will almost assuredly take us. The Meet Sports won't really be affected as it's one date. The big bummer is baseball. Hawaii will have to find a new home for Men's Vball and Beach if the Big West kicks us out. Hi staticb! Thanks for posting your insight. Why would the big bummer be baseball? That is one sport that I know very little about.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 3, 2024 22:42:18 GMT -5
Men's Basketball is far superior, which is why we'll likely go. The revenue increase would help the program. The MPSF will almost assuredly take us. The Meet Sports won't really be affected as it's one date. The big bummer is baseball. Hawaii will have to find a new home for Men's Vball and Beach if the Big West kicks us out. Hi staticb! Thanks for posting your insight. Why would the big bummer be baseball? That is one sport that I know very little about. The big west as far as I understand, baseball is their strongest sport. Overall it’s a pretty good conference
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Post by VT Karen on Oct 3, 2024 22:59:24 GMT -5
Hi staticb ! Thanks for posting your insight. Why would the big bummer be baseball? That is one sport that I know very little about. The big west as far as I understand, baseball is their strongest sport. Overall it’s a pretty good conference I see. Thank you for sharing! I looked up the NCAA's top 25 for baseball and saw that UCSB and UCI were ranked.
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 3, 2024 23:41:19 GMT -5
Okay, looking at the New MWC, and add in Hawaii, I would say that Hawaii could Dominate the MWC in all sports but Football, and quite possibly softball. For those sports programs that the MWC do not have, and Hawaii enters the MPSF Conference for those sports, it would definitely be an upgrade. Would love to see Hawaii compete in the MPSF in Men's Volleyball, Women's Water Polo, and Beach Volleyball. I am quite sure the MPSF would take Hawaii Men's Volleyball, and Women's Water Polo. Those 2 Hawaii teams would definitely upgrade the MPSF in those 2 sports.
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Post by ManapuaSurprise on Oct 4, 2024 1:29:06 GMT -5
The Big West seems like such a nice geographic fit and when teams were a bit stronger consistently, it helped (primarily Hawaii, Long Beach, Santa Barbara, Cal Poly). Hawaii could consider the Big West full time - but at what cost? Like how much would we have to subsidize for teams to play us? Does the Big West offer something better in those non-football sports like paying no travel subsidies? Does it even matter to switch conferences? It ultimately will come down to this:
"UH pays MWC opponents $150,000 to travel from the Pacific Time Zone and $175,000 from the Mountain Time Zone. Big West teams are owed a stipend of $500 per traveling team member, which adds up quickly considering the 10 sports in which the BWC travels teams for regular-season competition to the islands."
If the deal with MWC can get rid of the stipends and it is financially better for UH, they will go to MWC
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Post by wahinefan on Oct 4, 2024 2:12:11 GMT -5
The Big West seems like such a nice geographic fit and when teams were a bit stronger consistently, it helped (primarily Hawaii, Long Beach, Santa Barbara, Cal Poly). Hawaii could consider the Big West full time - but at what cost? Like how much would we have to subsidize for teams to play us? Does the Big West offer something better in those non-football sports like paying no travel subsidies? Does it even matter to switch conferences? It ultimately will come down to this:
"UH pays MWC opponents $150,000 to travel from the Pacific Time Zone and $175,000 from the Mountain Time Zone. Big West teams are owed a stipend of $500 per traveling team member, which adds up quickly considering the 10 sports in which the BWC travels teams for regular-season competition to the islands."
If the deal with MWC can get rid of the stipends and it is financially better for UH, they will go to MWC
Keep in mind, right now, in the other major sports, M & W Basketball, Women's Volleyball, Softball, and Baseball, the MWC only has 7 teams. In the eyes of the NCAA, the MWC is not a full fledge Conference by NCAA standards. A Conference needs 8 teams to be a full fledge Conference. That is where Hawaii has the upper hand when negotiating with the MWC. The MWC needs Hawaii, more then Hawaii needs the MWC. Hawaii is quite comfortable being in the BWC, at the moment.
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Post by toonscivb on Oct 4, 2024 5:48:56 GMT -5
I was watching old matches from 2023 and there was a match where Wagoner got a head shot on an opponent. I was shocked because it was a hard hit by Wagoner. But now I don't remember what team the hit was on and my Youtube history is not helping me remember.
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Post by toonscivb on Oct 4, 2024 6:07:22 GMT -5
I was watching old matches from 2023 and there was a match where Wagoner got a head shot on an opponent. I was shocked because it was a hard hit by Wagoner. But now I don't remember what team the hit was on and my Youtube history is not helping me remember. I found the match. It was match point against North Western where Wagoner hit it off the middle blockers head. I don’t know why the video wasn’t showing up in my watched history
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Post by gouci on Oct 4, 2024 14:59:49 GMT -5
WBVB — going to the MPSF would be an upgrade. WVB — MWC would be an upgrade. The remaining members of the future MWC: San Jose State [KPI=38]; UTEP [40]; UNLV [63]; Wyoming [64]; New Mexico [121]; Nevada [155]; Air Force [KPI 280]. Hawai'i KPI=74. Travel would be a negative, but improved conference strength a positive. Fewer teams to schedule in conference could be positive or negative. Positive in that it frees up more dates for non-conference foes, but negative in that it's not easy to fill those extra dates with good foes unless Hawai'i is willing to travel more in non-conference. May I add a few things.
1. Last year San Jose St. ended the season with an RPI of 206. The KPI of 38 today is probably an exception not the rule.
2. Last year Nevada ended the season with an RPI of 248. The KPI of 155 today may be better than most years when they're below 200.
3. When the Big West was smaller the schedule was balanced and the Big West didn't have a conference tournament. The regular season champ got the automatic bid. Today the MWC has 11 teams and a conference tournament. But in the future if the MWC shinks to 8 eight teams with a balanced schedule they may go the opposite direction and eliminate the conference tournament for cost savings and just send the regular season champ. Just saying.
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Post by medusa on Oct 4, 2024 16:10:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know the status of Caylen Alexander for this weekend?
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