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Post by diggerdive on Dec 17, 2023 22:18:25 GMT -5
Maybe so, but in general, making that argument IMMEDIATELY after one of the worst drubbings in NCAA Championship history is probably not the most effective way to make it. making this argument tonight - tomorrow - a week from now - it wouldn’t make a difference. this Husker team was special all season long and made the difference for the sport this season. without that memorial stadium match, i don’t think we would have seen the same impact/growth to the sport in its entirety. you can’t discredit what this team did all season and their full body of work. i’ll play that same tune all day, everyday. I’m thankful for what this team and staff has done. no other program could have replicated this. And still lost.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 17, 2023 22:20:08 GMT -5
Maybe so, but in general, making that argument IMMEDIATELY after one of the worst drubbings in NCAA Championship history is probably not the most effective way to make it. making this argument tonight - tomorrow - a week from now - it wouldn’t make a difference. this Husker team was special all season long and made the difference for the sport this season. without that memorial stadium match, i don’t think we would have seen the same impact/growth to the sport in its entirety. you can’t discredit what this team did all season and their full body of work. i’ll play that same tune all day, everyday. I’m thankful for what this team and staff has done. no other program could have replicated this. Nebraska can have a very special program, players, fans, coaching staff...and still get their head handed to them on a platter on the biggest stage. No other program could have replicated scoring 47 points in a national championship match, either, apparently.
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Post by liberovb10 on Dec 17, 2023 22:20:36 GMT -5
making this argument tonight - tomorrow - a week from now - it wouldn’t make a difference. this Husker team was special all season long and made the difference for the sport this season. without that memorial stadium match, i don’t think we would have seen the same impact/growth to the sport in its entirety. you can’t discredit what this team did all season and their full body of work. i’ll play that same tune all day, everyday. I’m thankful for what this team and staff has done. no other program could have replicated this. And still lost. the person trying to preach and spread positivity (via - How have you helped someone be better today?) coming on here to be shady…must be a texas fan. PRICELESS!!!!!
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 17, 2023 22:20:49 GMT -5
Maybe so, but in general, making that argument IMMEDIATELY after one of the worst drubbings in NCAA Championship history is probably not the most effective way to make it. making this argument tonight - tomorrow - a week from now - it wouldn’t make a difference. this Husker team was special all season long and made the difference for the sport this season. without that memorial stadium match, i don’t think we would have seen the same impact/growth to the sport in its entirety. you can’t discredit what this team did all season and their full body of work. i’ll play that same tune all day, everyday. I’m thankful for what this team and staff has done. no other program could have replicated this. Well, that’s better. All that other stuff about Texas thinking they didn’t deserve to be in the final was completely unnecessary. Good luck working through your grief.
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Post by sfvbsfvb on Dec 17, 2023 22:21:43 GMT -5
I have no dog in this fight - I could not give a rat's furry butt about either Nebraska or Texas - but I would be lying if I said I'm not entertained by all the shade and saltiness on this thread. Carry on! Seriously. Here for the free entertainment. Dance, monkeys.
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 17, 2023 22:24:03 GMT -5
One has to ask if Nebraska's season was a bit of a mirage after the beating they took. No doubt they were very good, but the B1G after Neb and Wisconsin wasn't that good this year. Purdue and Penn St were the two next best teams and Minny was a bust. Nebraska had the one big win in the preseason against Stanford but that was the their only really tough pre-con opponent. Wisconsin had a few close calls in the pre-con and would have lost to Florida if Stucky didn't suffer a season ending injury. The way that Wisky and RED handled the Texas serve leaves me dumbfounded and I have to ask about the quality of serving in the B1G, because it certainly didn't prepare either team for the Texas onslaught from the service line. Now do Texas and their loss to Washington State, being swept by Kansas State, and their "close call" with Tennessee. If Texas hadn’t just dethroned Wisconsin and Nebraska-THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE MIGHTY BIG 10 we could play the “now do” game. But thats not how that game works. Gosh, Texas beat them down so fast we have lots of time for more Volleytalk. Isn’t this great?
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Post by knapplc on Dec 17, 2023 22:24:53 GMT -5
One has to ask if Nebraska's season was a bit of a mirage after the beating they took. One can, in fact, ask. One can also ask how many matches Nebraska won this season. (it's 33 matches) One can also ask how many matches Nebraska lost this season. (it's two matches) One loss was to the Big Ten runner-up. A Final Four team. The other loss was to the National Champion. One can also ask - if a team's only two losses were to a Final Four team, and to the National Champion, were their other 33 wins a mirage? One can ask. But probably they shouldn't, because that's a pretty embarrassing question.
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Post by rjaege on Dec 17, 2023 22:25:07 GMT -5
This is a big rivalry game in which NE will not play with deer in the headlight indecision like WI in the semi-final. Not sure what happened. TX is a good team, but not that good to make WI look like a BIG 12 lower tier team. Both NE and TX will show up and compete. Should be a fun match. this did not age well Very true. robtearle 's observations were very prophetic.
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 17, 2023 22:25:26 GMT -5
the person trying to preach and spread positivity (via - How have you helped someone be better today?) coming on here to be shady…must be a texas fan. PRICELESS!!!!! I’m trying to help you be better by being quiet.
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Post by slxpress on Dec 17, 2023 22:25:46 GMT -5
One has to ask if Nebraska's season was a bit of a mirage after the beating they took. No doubt they were very good, but the B1G after Neb and Wisconsin wasn't that good this year. Purdue and Penn St were the two next best teams and Minny was a bust. Nebraska had the one big win in the preseason against Stanford but that was the their only really tough pre-con opponent. Wisconsin had a few close calls in the pre-con and would have lost to Florida if Stucky didn't suffer a season ending injury. The way that Wisky and RED handled the Texas serve leaves me dumbfounded and I have to ask about the quality of serving in the B1G, because it certainly didn't prepare either team for the Texas onslaught from the service line. Now do Texas and their loss to Washington State, being swept by Kansas State, and their "close call" with Tennessee. The Kansas State one was the most interesting. KState's serve receive was rated at a 1.8 by volleymetrics in that match. That was one of my big concerns entering the tournament. I knew this team was a murderer's row of servers. Even more brutal than last year, and I felt last year Texas was by far the most difficult serving team in the tournament. And that's with Parra and Skinner both on the bench. Then we replace SKT with Swindle, Fleck (who was very effective) with Barnes, Eggleston with Skinner (which shockingly wasn't a dropoff), Halter was vastly improved, and then O'Neal and Akana. But if we couldn't manage to beat KState - and got swept by them no less - while consistently getting them way out of system, that didn't bode well for the postseason. But that's obviously not how it worked out. I would also add the 5 set nail biter to TCU to your list, too. Texas won, but it wasn't pretty.
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Post by staticb on Dec 17, 2023 22:27:26 GMT -5
One has to ask if Nebraska's season was a bit of a mirage after the beating they took. Not a mirage. I still think they are the most consistent team in the country. Clean volleyball, low error rate. What they lack (right now) is the extra gear. The aren't the team with the highest ceiling--they are just really good, consistent players. Texas, Wisconsin (and a few others) have a higher maximum ceiling.
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Post by robtearle on Dec 17, 2023 22:27:37 GMT -5
Now do Texas and their loss to Washington State, being swept by Kansas State, and their "close call" with Tennessee. If Texas hadn’t just dethroned Wisconsin and Nebraska-THE KING AND QUEEN OF THE MIGHTY BIG 10 we could play the “now do” game. But thats not how that game works. Gosh, Texas beat them down so fast we have lots of time for more Volleytalk. Isn’t this great? Texas was freaking awesome this weekend. That doesn't mean we need a rewrite of history. Wisconsin and Nebraska are the same teams they were a week ago. And Texas had off-nights too, but their worst night of the year was on a Wednesday in November and not nationally televised.
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Post by emeyezee on Dec 17, 2023 22:27:50 GMT -5
Several hours later, and I’m still just as surprised as I was at the end of the match. I’m not necessarily shocked that Texas won, just the absolute beatdown that it was. So much credit to Texas, particularly Asjia, Madi, and I thought Wenaas had a really good match too. Really, the whole Texas team was unstoppable after the Tennessee match.
Cheers to all on another fun season! 🍻
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Post by diggerdive on Dec 17, 2023 22:30:33 GMT -5
One has to ask if Nebraska's season was a bit of a mirage after the beating they took. One can, in fact, ask. One can also ask how many matches Nebraska won this season. (it's 33 matches) One can also ask how many matches Nebraska lost this season. (it's two matches) One loss was to the Big Ten runner-up. A Final Four team. The other loss was to the National Champion. One can also ask - if a team's only two losses were to a Final Four team, and to the National Champion, were their other 33 wins a mirage? One can ask. But probably they shouldn't, because that's a pretty embarrassing question. But the beat down. One can ask how did such a great team get beat down, dragged around, run over and find so many lame ass excuses. I guess we have a different opinion about the definition of embarrassment. 😆
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Post by liberovb10 on Dec 17, 2023 22:31:05 GMT -5
the person trying to preach and spread positivity (via - How have you helped someone be better today?) coming on here to be shady…must be a texas fan. PRICELESS!!!!! I’m trying to help you be better by being quiet. you can do so by leaving me out of your replies - or delete that conflicting “positive” message from your profile so you can continue being the shady queen you are!
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