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Post by badgerbyproxy on Dec 15, 2023 14:09:57 GMT -5
I know some people are sick of this narrative, but Franklin did have a major health scare this summer and her return to the sport was questionable. Going from someone who no one knew if they’d be playing at the beginning of the season to being one of the top players in the country says a lot. Skinner had a fantastic season as well, but given what Franklin had to overcome, the award is justified. Even without the health scare, the award is justified. Agreed, both have had fantastic seasons and earned all accolades they’ve received.
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2023 14:12:22 GMT -5
Also have been wondering about Devyn a good bit, and whether or not she could be moving on. I’m not sure what her NIL status is, but I thought she was near the bottom of the team along with Izzy. That could be a reason to go pro, moving back to middle somewhere. Also wondering with MJ moving on, the tight little trio of MJ, Jade, and Dev leaves only Robinson left, and that could be another strong reason to move on (I used to see them walking around together a lot in the offseason). Does anyone know what her education goals are? Maybe she’s ready to be done and isn’t as interested in a masters as others have? Devyn out of all probably was affected most by our 6-2 offense. Many nights next to Dana Rettke, Dev was the biggest kill getter/ offensive threat when I used to pay attention Dev was super active with TikTok. Dev pretty close with CC, and Carter Booth for next season team. I think she gets on with Asjia Oneal but that could be talent recognizing talent. Dev first fell in love with volleyball while living in Texas. I hope somehow, someway it works out that she stays a fifth year despite the potential uncertainty over a possible switch back to a 5-1 system. Devyn in 2021 (5-1 with Dana) - 2.39 kills per set, .343 hitting percent, 1.00 blocks per set Devyn in 2022 (6-2 offense) - 2.69 kills per set, .318 hitting percent, 1.08 blocks per set Devyn in 2023 (6-2 offense) - 2.41 kills per set, .308 hitting percent, 0.92 blocks per set (And "next to Dana" isn't accurate. Unless I'm mis-remembering, Devyn was the other middle when Dana was here in 2021, after Hart's injury.)
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Post by badgerbreath on Dec 15, 2023 14:16:48 GMT -5
The 6-2 was the correct system for this year because of the hitting talent, how similar and cooperative the two setters were and the available passing talent. The latter wasn't good enough to make the 5-1 work a lot better and it made us much weaker on the block. I personally think we managed in the 5-1 - it looked more like what we typically associate with badger volleyball - but we weren't as dangerous
I also have no doubt that we will be running a 5-1 next year. If anyone has watched Feuerbringer on the JNT you'd know that she is good enough right now. There are questions about how to put together a 5-1 lineup since we haven't seen Wrobel much, Shadd-Ceres is coming in, Orzol could move back to OH, Damrow will hopefully be healthy and a bunch of BR talent is coming in.
I don't think it's worth worrying about players leaving at this stage. Sheffield will not know yet how the team will setup and he will not decide until the team starts practicing in summer. I actually like Devyn on the slide, so I would bet she gets the nod in a 5-1 over CC who is more of a defensive middle, but who knows what possibilities Sheff will see. Maybe Smrek learns to run the slide and Devyn hits from the right. They switch so much, maybe it doesn't really matter! Could Devyn develop into a Demps-like option from the BR? If the passers are good enough, maybe. Then CC stays at middle.
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Post by mibadger on Dec 15, 2023 14:18:43 GMT -5
I know some people are sick of this narrative, but Franklin did have a major health scare this summer and her return to the sport was questionable. Going from someone who no one knew if they’d be playing at the beginning of the season to being one of the top players in the country says a lot. Skinner had a fantastic season as well, but given what Franklin had to overcome, the award is justified. Exactly. Both are deserving; Frank’s journey since being academically ineligible to injury to First Team AA is a great story. Also true is that we got spanked last night and Skinner did much of the spanking. Much respect to her and if Madisen wants to use her covid year in Madison then… hey, gurl! Championships with 3 different teams? I’m intrigued. Joking……….mostly
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Post by mibadger on Dec 15, 2023 16:42:19 GMT -5
The 6-2 was the correct system for this year because of the hitting talent, how similar and cooperative the two setters were and the available passing talent. The latter wasn't good enough to make the 5-1 work a lot better and it made us much weaker on the block. I personally think we managed in the 5-1 - it looked more like what we typically associate with badger volleyball - but we weren't as dangerous I also have no doubt that we will be running a 5-1 next year. If anyone has watched Feuerbringer on the JNT you'd know that she is good enough right now. There are questions about how to put together a 5-1 lineup since we haven't seen Wrobel much, Shadd-Ceres is coming in, Orzol could move back to OH, Damrow will hopefully be healthy and a bunch of BR talent is coming in. I don't think it's worth worrying about players leaving at this stage. Sheffield will not know yet how the team will setup and he will not decide until the team starts practicing in summer. I actually like Devyn on the slide, so I would bet she gets the nod in a 5-1 over CC who is more of a defensive middle, but who knows what possibilities Sheff will see. Maybe Smrek learns to run the slide and Devyn hits from the right. They switch so much, maybe it doesn't really matter! Could Devyn develop into a Demps-like option from the BR? If the passers are good enough, maybe. Then CC stays at middle. Robinson out of the back row could be devastating. Sheffield has talked before about her being more than capable of being a 6 rotation player. Maybe we see that next year. I think it’s interesting that when we ran out of subs and TTA and Robinson were forced thru the back row that we were able to survive that. I think CC finds a role too. She just does so many small things really well and is very quick. Be interesting to see her run a slide too. She’s not as explosive as Robinson or Booth but she’s no slouch.
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Post by robtearle on Dec 15, 2023 16:44:37 GMT -5
The 6-2 was the correct system for this year because of the hitting talent, how similar and cooperative the two setters were and the available passing talent. The latter wasn't good enough to make the 5-1 work a lot better and it made us much weaker on the block. I personally think we managed in the 5-1 - it looked more like what we typically associate with badger volleyball - but we weren't as dangerous I also have no doubt that we will be running a 5-1 next year. If anyone has watched Feuerbringer on the JNT you'd know that she is good enough right now. There are questions about how to put together a 5-1 lineup since we haven't seen Wrobel much, Shadd-Ceres is coming in, Orzol could move back to OH, Damrow will hopefully be healthy and a bunch of BR talent is coming in. I don't think it's worth worrying about players leaving at this stage. Sheffield will not know yet how the team will setup and he will not decide until the team starts practicing in summer. I actually like Devyn on the slide, so I would bet she gets the nod in a 5-1 over CC who is more of a defensive middle, but who knows what possibilities Sheff will see. Maybe Smrek learns to run the slide and Devyn hits from the right. They switch so much, maybe it doesn't really matter! Could Devyn develop into a Demps-like option from the BR? If the passers are good enough, maybe. Then CC stays at middle. Robinson out of the back row could be devastating. Sheffield has talked before about her being more than capable of being a 6 rotation player. Maybe we see that next year. I think it’s interesting that when we ran out of subs and TTA and Robinson were forced thru the back row that we were able to survive that. I think CC finds a role too. She just does so many small things really well and is very quick. Be interesting to see her run a slide too. She’s not as explosive as Robinson or Booth but she’s no slouch. The two sets when Dev and TTA ended up in the back row, we survived longer than I would have expected. But we lost both sets.
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Post by Sooners1822 on Dec 15, 2023 16:45:07 GMT -5
The 6-2 was the correct system for this year because of the hitting talent, how similar and cooperative the two setters were and the available passing talent. The latter wasn't good enough to make the 5-1 work a lot better and it made us much weaker on the block. I personally think we managed in the 5-1 - it looked more like what we typically associate with badger volleyball - but we weren't as dangerous I also have no doubt that we will be running a 5-1 next year. If anyone has watched Feuerbringer on the JNT you'd know that she is good enough right now. There are questions about how to put together a 5-1 lineup since we haven't seen Wrobel much, Shadd-Ceres is coming in, Orzol could move back to OH, Damrow will hopefully be healthy and a bunch of BR talent is coming in. I don't think it's worth worrying about players leaving at this stage. Sheffield will not know yet how the team will setup and he will not decide until the team starts practicing in summer. I actually like Devyn on the slide, so I would bet she gets the nod in a 5-1 over CC who is more of a defensive middle, but who knows what possibilities Sheff will see. Maybe Smrek learns to run the slide and Devyn hits from the right. They switch so much, maybe it doesn't really matter! Could Devyn develop into a Demps-like option from the BR? If the passers are good enough, maybe. Then CC stays at middle. Robinson out of the back row could be devastating. Sheffield has talked before about her being more than capable of being a 6 rotation player. Maybe we see that next year. I think it’s interesting that when we ran out of subs and TTA and Robinson were forced thru the back row that we were able to survive that. I think CC finds a role too. She just does so many small things really well and is very quick. Be interesting to see her run a slide too. She’s not as explosive as Robinson or Booth but she’s no slouch. Devastating is right
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Post by swaggyp on Dec 15, 2023 16:48:58 GMT -5
I would be CRUSHED if my hero CC transferred. She can do whatever she wants (and has transferred once already obvs) and I’ll root for her no matter what, but I hope she gets 3 rotations with UW next year. She’s such a baller.
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Post by maigrey on Dec 15, 2023 17:24:21 GMT -5
I went to start one and it was already here. Which one of our front row transfers out with going back to a 5-1. I have zero inside knowledge but Robinson is the one that worries me most for some reason. If I’m Smrek and Franklin and Robinson I’m heading to California for winter break to find a gym and start working with Charlie. I don't think any of them are going to transfer. Injuries are always part of the sport, unfortunately, as our bad days and having a backup is a very good plan.
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Post by maigrey on Dec 15, 2023 17:28:14 GMT -5
How about Pukis lol. I think improved setting will be the key to this team, but still worried about the back row. Time for Saige, Lola, and Maile to push the upperclassmen. Yeah honestly the backrow is probably just as, if not more vital. Can't have our freshman setter runs marathon every game. We NEED to find one (or more) more DS that can pass (if Orzol doesn't move back to outsides) because Frank was clearly gassed by the end of the game passing with two and honestly, I don't blame her. I fully believe we won 2021 because of our insane back row defense. Our offense was pretty good, but I wouldn't say as good as our current team. The littles were the stars. Well, and Donna. ❤️
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Post by tablealgebra on Dec 15, 2023 17:35:15 GMT -5
Devyn out of all probably was affected most by our 6-2 offense. Many nights next to Dana Rettke, Dev was the biggest kill getter/ offensive threat when I used to pay attention Dev was super active with TikTok. Dev pretty close with CC, and Carter Booth for next season team. I think she gets on with Asjia Oneal but that could be talent recognizing talent. Dev first fell in love with volleyball while living in Texas. I hope somehow, someway it works out that she stays a fifth year despite the potential uncertainty over a possible switch back to a 5-1 system. Devyn in 2021 (5-1 with Dana) - 2.39 kills per set, .343 hitting percent, 1.00 blocks per set Devyn in 2022 (6-2 offense) - 2.69 kills per set, .318 hitting percent, 1.08 blocks per set Devyn in 2023 (6-2 offense) - 2.41 kills per set, .308 hitting percent, 0.92 blocks per set (And "next to Dana" isn't accurate. Unless I'm mis-remembering, Devyn was the other middle when Dana was here in 2021, after Hart's injury.) Even when Devyn was playing right side in 2021 she would have been next to Hart, not Dana, since Dana played M1 (next to the setter) while Hart was M2 that year (2 away from the setter, next to the opposite)
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Post by maigrey on Dec 15, 2023 17:48:47 GMT -5
Troll be gone. I love me some Skinner, but Franklin popped off the whole season. as if madi didn’t? 😭 i don’t understand this rationale The voting for this happens on Wednesday before the final four. I do think Sarah was much more impactful for Wisconsin for the year, but don't worry I'm sure Madi will get MVP of the tournament.
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Post by maigrey on Dec 15, 2023 17:52:04 GMT -5
I would be CRUSHED if my hero CC transferred. She can do whatever she wants (and has transferred once already obvs) and I’ll root for her no matter what, but I hope she gets 3 rotations with UW next year. She’s such a baller. I just don't see any of these ladies transferring. They are very much team players and with so many people returning, where are they going to get a better chance to win a natty? They would have to leave for Nebraska or Texas, and I just don't see that happening.
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Post by tablealgebra on Dec 15, 2023 17:54:03 GMT -5
The 6-2 was the correct system for this year because of the hitting talent, how similar and cooperative the two setters were and the available passing talent. The latter wasn't good enough to make the 5-1 work a lot better and it made us much weaker on the block. I personally think we managed in the 5-1 - it looked more like what we typically associate with badger volleyball - but we weren't as dangerous I also have no doubt that we will be running a 5-1 next year. If anyone has watched Feuerbringer on the JNT you'd know that she is good enough right now. There are questions about how to put together a 5-1 lineup since we haven't seen Wrobel much, Shadd-Ceres is coming in, Orzol could move back to OH, Damrow will hopefully be healthy and a bunch of BR talent is coming in. I don't think it's worth worrying about players leaving at this stage. Sheffield will not know yet how the team will setup and he will not decide until the team starts practicing in summer. I actually like Devyn on the slide, so I would bet she gets the nod in a 5-1 over CC who is more of a defensive middle, but who knows what possibilities Sheff will see. Maybe Smrek learns to run the slide and Devyn hits from the right. They switch so much, maybe it doesn't really matter! Could Devyn develop into a Demps-like option from the BR? If the passers are good enough, maybe. Then CC stays at middle. Smrek ran one slide this year that I remember. It wasn't beautiful but clearly she practices it. The only thing I don't like about Smrek at middle is that she struggles to close to the pin on faster sets even more than Booth. There is the entertaining option of Devyn or CC playing "DS" for the opposite as well a la Demps (having one of them there would eliminate worries about the middles needing to run slides, though Booth has certainly shown she can). But they could put GG there as a non-passing DS too (like Izzy in 2019); she has clearly shown that her back row play is a major contributor to the team.
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Post by aryia111 on Dec 15, 2023 18:00:40 GMT -5
Charlie Furbs Furby I’m ok with any of those. They call Julia “Oz”, so maybe the team will come up with a nickname that’s far easier to say and spell? I personally like Char-burger. Maybe because it diner time. I hope her blocking and defense are ready for next level. The setting seems phenomenal from the video I have seen. I think blocking and defense are a little more difficult to judge how she will do at the next level. I also hope Van Wie (I'll call her Beetle .. get it VW Beetle... anyway...) gets lots of reps preseason also. May be tough with two freshman setters. Badgers have lucked into a lot of good back up setter options since Shef has taken over. You would not want the whole season going down hill if your setter was hurt.
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