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Post by pancake74 on Apr 23, 2024 9:15:50 GMT -5
There's not going to be a 6-2. Sheffield has said that Charley is an elite blocker. Second, even though our hitters are great, it took all season for them to get a good connection with both setters. The ball is coming off the hands of a 5'11" setter at a different speed, height and trajectory than a 5'9" setter. Third, yes we have good hitters- they will find a way on the court. CC is injured and missing spring season so we don't even know if she'll be ready by fall. Using a 6-2 gets us in sub trouble in close games and impedes the team's ability to put in a squad of littles for passing or defense. Based on Orzol's hitting stats against UIC, I wouldn't be surprised if TSC comes in or becomes a 3 ro outside.
Fourth-part of our firepower is having great middles. Middles get set less in a 6-2 and you basically end up with 2 M2's and no M1 who can run behind. That limits our MBs to hitting mostly in front, with occasional X's. You could see that in the Texas match when their defense was scooping up all of Carter's shoot sets. A 6-2 puts you mostly into a spread offense and makes the overload option harder to run. Carter was getting really good at slides her freshman year at MN and I think she could be pretty unstoppable on a slide with a good setter.
Fifth-a big part of running an offense is executing the game plan. It's very hard to do that with 2 different setters instead of one.
I think the person who called Carly "mediocre" didn't really know what they were watching and I can see her coming in as a serving specialist or having some role on the court. Just not as 1/2 of a 6-2.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 23, 2024 9:21:32 GMT -5
My biggest concern for Wisconsin is if they’re a #1 seed yet again for the umpteenth time in a row or they have to slog to the Final Four as a 5 or 6 seed. First world problems, volleyball style.
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Post by ndodge on Apr 23, 2024 12:03:11 GMT -5
Re CC and fall - she did some work in hitting lines before the scrimmage last weekend - she's nearly ready now
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Post by tablealgebra on Apr 23, 2024 15:44:20 GMT -5
My biggest concern for Wisconsin is if they’re a #1 seed yet again for the umpteenth time in a row or they have to slog to the Final Four as a 5 or 6 seed. First world problems, volleyball style. I predict we're a 2 seed (which is what I think you meant as a 5 or 6, but I think if we drop a few doozies we could be 7 or 8 as well). I don't think we'll lose enough to drop further than that even if Charlie is slow to integrate into the offense. At worst a 3 seed. But that means our road to Louisville goes through Devaney, Gregory, ...(checks notes) Peterson, O'Connell, or ... KFC Yum! (most likely) If we're a championship team, we can win those matches in those environments. If we're a "lose in the semis" level team (by the end of the year), we'll probably lose in the Elite Eight instead.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 23, 2024 16:09:06 GMT -5
My biggest concern for Wisconsin is if they’re a #1 seed yet again for the umpteenth time in a row or they have to slog to the Final Four as a 5 or 6 seed. First world problems, volleyball style. I predict we're a 2 seed (which is what I think you meant as a 5 or 6, but I think if we drop a few doozies we could be 7 or 8 as well). I don't think we'll lose enough to drop further than that even if Charlie is slow to integrate into the offense. At worst a 3 seed. But that means our road to Louisville goes through Devaney, Gregory, ...(checks notes) Peterson, O'Connell, or ... KFC Yum! (most likely) If we're a championship team, we can win those matches in those environments. If we're a "lose in the semis" level team (by the end of the year), we'll probably lose in the Elite Eight instead. Yes. #5 or #6 seed overall. I have Nebraska, Texas, Wisconsin pencilled in as 3 of the 4 #1 seeds. I don’t see any of those teams dropping below a #2 seed at worst.
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Post by chibadgerfan on Apr 23, 2024 16:38:43 GMT -5
I predict we're a 2 seed (which is what I think you meant as a 5 or 6, but I think if we drop a few doozies we could be 7 or 8 as well). I don't think we'll lose enough to drop further than that even if Charlie is slow to integrate into the offense. At worst a 3 seed. But that means our road to Louisville goes through Devaney, Gregory, ...(checks notes) Peterson, O'Connell, or ... KFC Yum! (most likely) If we're a championship team, we can win those matches in those environments. If we're a "lose in the semis" level team (by the end of the year), we'll probably lose in the Elite Eight instead. Yes. #5 or #6 seed overall. I have Nebraska, Texas, Wisconsin pencilled in as 3 of the 4 #1 seeds. I don’t see any of those teams dropping below a #2 seed at worst. I think Wisconsin will be a top 3 overall seed. They should beat Nebraska, but less sure about Texas. I don’t follow your comments, though. How can Wisconsin be a #5 or #6 seed overall and be one of the regional #1 seeds simultaneously?
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Post by slxpress on Apr 23, 2024 20:32:27 GMT -5
Yes. #5 or #6 seed overall. I have Nebraska, Texas, Wisconsin pencilled in as 3 of the 4 #1 seeds. I don’t see any of those teams dropping below a #2 seed at worst. I think Wisconsin will be a top 3 overall seed. They should beat Nebraska, but less sure about Texas. I don’t follow your comments, though. How can Wisconsin be a #5 or #6 seed overall and be one of the regional #1 seeds simultaneously? It can’t. I’m saying that’s a worst case scenario in my mind for all 3 teams. I don’t see any of Nebraska, Texas, or Wisconsin falling from a #1 seed, but if they did, it would be only barely. Realize, the comment was made within the context of “oh no! What will Wisconsin do about running either a 5-1 or 6-2?!?”
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Post by tablealgebra on Apr 23, 2024 20:45:47 GMT -5
I think Wisconsin will be a top 3 overall seed. They should beat Nebraska, but less sure about Texas. I don’t follow your comments, though. How can Wisconsin be a #5 or #6 seed overall and be one of the regional #1 seeds simultaneously? It can’t. I’m saying that’s a worst case scenario in my mind for all 3 teams. I don’t see any of Nebraska, Texas, or Wisconsin falling from a #1 seed, but if they did, it would be only barely. Realize, the comment was made within the context of “oh no! What will Wisconsin do about running either a 5-1 or 6-2?!?” My view is that we're going to drop games at the beginning of the year that by the end of the year we should have won, that's why I think a 2 seed. At the end of the year we will be one of the four best teams though.
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Post by badgerbreath on Apr 23, 2024 22:06:05 GMT -5
It can’t. I’m saying that’s a worst case scenario in my mind for all 3 teams. I don’t see any of Nebraska, Texas, or Wisconsin falling from a #1 seed, but if they did, it would be only barely. Realize, the comment was made within the context of “oh no! What will Wisconsin do about running either a 5-1 or 6-2?!?” My view is that we're going to drop games at the beginning of the year that by the end of the year we should have won, that's why I think a 2 seed. At the end of the year we will be one of the four best teams though. One of the downsides of the B1G getting all these good teams with history from the PAC-12 is that other conferences did not get them. I'm really not sure how the committee will deal with the imbalance that results.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Apr 23, 2024 22:11:06 GMT -5
My view is that we're going to drop games at the beginning of the year that by the end of the year we should have won, that's why I think a 2 seed. At the end of the year we will be one of the four best teams though. One of the downsides of the B1G getting all these good teams with history from the PAC-12 is that other conferences did not get them. I'm really not sure how the committee will deal with the imbalance that results. It’ll likely work out better for the Big 10 tbh. Compared with what the Big 12 lost/took in, the prospects seem to be pretty good comparatively.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Apr 24, 2024 0:46:01 GMT -5
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Post by greenesail on Apr 24, 2024 10:35:34 GMT -5
Regarding Carter and the move back to the 5-1, I saw that she had a slide kill for match point against UIC. I am looking forward to seeing a lot more of that in the fall.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 24, 2024 12:02:44 GMT -5
One of the downsides of the B1G getting all these good teams with history from the PAC-12 is that other conferences did not get them. I'm really not sure how the committee will deal with the imbalance that results. It’ll likely work out better for the Big 10 tbh. Compared with what the Big 12 lost/took in, the prospects seem to be pretty good comparatively. How does the ACC fit in that equation? They only got the one powerhouse, but it’s the biggest powerhouse of them all. I’m uncertain exactly what kind of team they’ll field this year, but I assume they’re going to be really good.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Apr 24, 2024 13:35:23 GMT -5
It’ll likely work out better for the Big 10 tbh. Compared with what the Big 12 lost/took in, the prospects seem to be pretty good comparatively. How does the ACC fit in that equation? They only got the one powerhouse, but it’s the biggest powerhouse of them all. I’m uncertain exactly what kind of team they’ll field this year, but I assume they’re going to be really good. The ACC does get the biggest powerhouse in Stanford, but picking up Cal and SMU as well doesn’t carry the same kind of weight as Washington, Oregon and the LA schools do. Stanford also seems to be looking at a bit of a down year with Kipp, Baird, and Vicini all graduating. They’ll still be great, but I don’t know if they’ve been near powerhouse level since Plummer and co graduated.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 24, 2024 13:42:00 GMT -5
One of the downsides of the B1G getting all these good teams with history from the PAC-12 is that other conferences did not get them. I'm really not sure how the committee will deal with the imbalance that results. It’ll likely work out better for the Big 10 tbh. Compared with what the Big 12 lost/took in, the prospects seem to be pretty good comparatively. It won't work out well for the B1G in terms of what the commitee will do. It will rely on RPI, which SEC/Big 12 will have structural advantages on (as well as Sun Belt, Big East, etc.)
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