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Post by 200backer on Sept 3, 2024 13:18:37 GMT -5
I wasn’t able to watch the full game but there was a play where Chan came on and looked good. Any chance she’s the answer? Barnes was a walk on too (at Minnesota) if I remember Chan only has played in one set thus far, against Texas. I don’t recall anything about her play at all. All I remember is they brought her in for serve receive, they immediately served her, and she passed a perfect pass
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Post by greenesail on Sept 3, 2024 13:27:54 GMT -5
Not long after the match, she reposted someone’s story, putting a heart around her name on the starting lineup graphic as the L. Making a post like that seems questionable, but… it seems even worse after not actually getting the start as the L. She hearted more than her name and unless you know them don't dive into insta looking for reasons to bitc* and moan. One of the photos on her Instagram page was of her crying in what appeared to be her dad's arms after the Stanford loss. Let's maybe try a little harder not to judge someone's character from an interpretation of their Instagram posts. There are enough Internet trolls out there trying to make their lives miserable as it is. Check out this article if you want to understand how difficult public scrutiny can be for a B1G volleyball player: www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/40991137/nebraska-volleyball-harper-murray-returns-arrest-offseason-mental-health
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 3, 2024 13:35:21 GMT -5
I really don’t think tone policing players’ insta feeds is the way to go. When everyone is frustrated it’s easy to read fantasy, dark or light, between the lines.
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Post by pepperjack on Sept 3, 2024 13:45:26 GMT -5
Keep in mind that, the freshman are young, like born in 2006 young. There’s a generational gap between most of the posters on VT and the newbies. How they choose to use social media is not similar to how we use it. I’m 26 and I think there’s a big gap between my generation and this current generation.
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Post by SportyBucky on Sept 3, 2024 13:46:33 GMT -5
As for smrek, she hits well in the middle, but she is a mess blocking the middle. I’d prefer her out on the right pin precisely because she doesn’t move that dynamically. That said, I thought Devin looked great today on the RS - I just prefer her blocking in the middle and running slides. Booth looks slow on the block. She’s not doing us many favors defensively, though she gets a block or two. If I were to replace anyone it would be Booth rn, until they can figure out how to use her length which they should def do. I just watched a match where it seemed there was a positive block touch on 2 of 3 swings. It actually surprises me when the badgers get such positive touches. Y Smrek hits well on the right, too. She hit 500 against Texas last year. People....She's injured. She's adjusting to a new setter. It'll all be OK.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 3, 2024 14:20:30 GMT -5
TSC just is not close. Let’s not pretend. I fully expect she will be great eventually but this is a huge step up and she is being thrown in the deep end because of circumstances. It will take months for her to get up to speed with this level of play. The badgers can’t afford that. There is literally no other option but Julia. Dev isn’t going to play OH, nor is smrek. Nor CC. It has to be Orzol. I don’t think the passing looks that hopeless. We should be able to put a good BR together with these parts without her being L. You could see pretty clearly in the 4th set that Julia is not jumping well, at all. She had one ball that sailed long because she didn't get on top of it, because her jump was just not there. No, I have no "inside" knowledge of her injury particularly. But a brief description/explanation of lower leg 'bone stress reactions' from a lifelong runner (67 years old) who has had to deal with them from time to time (if I get this a little wrong, medical people, please correct it): A long bone, like the tibia, has the hard bone part, and in places a softer 'spongy' outer layer called the periosteum. Tendons attach to the bone on the periosteum. Some muscles attch the the periosteum more directly, without a tendon playing a part. When a muscle fires and pulls on the tendon or directly on the bone, the tendon in turn pulls on the periostem of the bone, and we get motion. Sometimes that pulling will cause the periosteum to start to bruise, then start to pull away from the hard bone, maybe causing small cracks in the bone - a stress fracture - of varying degrees of severity. So this kind of injury can have a range of severity, a "bone stress reaction" is probably a better way to think about it, instead of a simple binary "fractured, not fractured". Assuming Julia has a lower leg 'bone stress reaction' of some degree, every time she moves those muscles, the tendon pulls on the injured periosteum, at least potentially worsening the injury. Obviously the doctors are telling her and Sheffield etal that the injury isn't severe enough to keep her off the floor altogether, but they are clearly trying to limit the amount of jumping she is doing, and the injury and lack of 'training' is affecting her when she does try to jump. So the dilemma with her is how much rest to let the injury fully heal, vs how much activity - jumping - that risks prolonging the current degree of injury, or risking further injury. I certainly don't know the answer. But there was a guy sitting near me yesterday over and over yelling about getting TSC out of there, and leaving Julia in. If it were that simple, of course Sheffield would do that; it clearly isn't that simple. Julia played the entire 4th set, and did as well as she could. And they still lost the set... I'm not saying play Julia hurt. She has to recover. I'm saying the idea of sending Julia to the L spot permanently is not really an option for the badgers for this year. Forget hosting the regionals, they may not even host the first round if that happens. They'll lose too much ground in the first half of the year if not for longer. That's too much weight on TSCs shoulders. She'll come good, but that window is too narrow.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 3, 2024 14:31:00 GMT -5
You could see pretty clearly in the 4th set that Julia is not jumping well, at all. She had one ball that sailed long because she didn't get on top of it, because her jump was just not there. No, I have no "inside" knowledge of her injury particularly. But a brief description/explanation of lower leg 'bone stress reactions' from a lifelong runner (67 years old) who has had to deal with them from time to time (if I get this a little wrong, medical people, please correct it): A long bone, like the tibia, has the hard bone part, and in places a softer 'spongy' outer layer called the periosteum. Tendons attach to the bone on the periosteum. Some muscles attch the the periosteum more directly, without a tendon playing a part. When a muscle fires and pulls on the tendon or directly on the bone, the tendon in turn pulls on the periostem of the bone, and we get motion. Sometimes that pulling will cause the periosteum to start to bruise, then start to pull away from the hard bone, maybe causing small cracks in the bone - a stress fracture - of varying degrees of severity. So this kind of injury can have a range of severity, a "bone stress reaction" is probably a better way to think about it, instead of a simple binary "fractured, not fractured". Assuming Julia has a lower leg 'bone stress reaction' of some degree, every time she moves those muscles, the tendon pulls on the injured periosteum, at least potentially worsening the injury. Obviously the doctors are telling her and Sheffield etal that the injury isn't severe enough to keep her off the floor altogether, but they are clearly trying to limit the amount of jumping she is doing, and the injury and lack of 'training' is affecting her when she does try to jump. So the dilemma with her is how much rest to let the injury fully heal, vs how much activity - jumping - that risks prolonging the current degree of injury, or risking further injury. I certainly don't know the answer. But there was a guy sitting near me yesterday over and over yelling about getting TSC out of there, and leaving Julia in. If it were that simple, of course Sheffield would do that; it clearly isn't that simple. Julia played the entire 4th set, and did as well as she could. And they still lost the set... I'm not saying play Julia hurt. She has to recover. I'm saying the idea of sending Julia to the L spot permanently is not really an option for the badgers for this year. Forget hosting the regionals, they may not even host the first round if that happens. They'll lose too much ground in the first half of the year if not for longer. That's too much weight on TSCs shoulders. She'll come good, but that window is too narrow. For the present, the options for the second left are either TSC or playing Julia hurt (with the possibility of losing her entirely if you do). People - like the guy sitting near me yesterday - need to understand this.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 3, 2024 14:41:14 GMT -5
I'm not saying play Julia hurt. She has to recover. I'm saying the idea of sending Julia to the L spot permanently is not really an option for the badgers for this year. Forget hosting the regionals, they may not even host the first round if that happens. They'll lose too much ground in the first half of the year if not for longer. That's too much weight on TSCs shoulders. She'll come good, but that window is too narrow. For the present, the options for the second left are either TSC or playing Julia hurt (with the possibility of losing her entirely if you do). People - like the guy sitting near me yesterday - need to understand this. I think we agree, don't play Julia hurt, but also don't make her libero when she is healthy. I mean if TSC exhibits a meteoric rise before Julia gets better, then maybe, but that would be a truly unprecedented rate of development. It's not something to expect.
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Post by SportyBucky on Sept 3, 2024 15:44:32 GMT -5
Anyone have passing numbers for any or all matches this weekend? Guess...
SF - 2.2 JO - 2.1 SDamrow - 1.8 LS - 1.9 TSC - 1.6
Felt like Sarah passed a ton and held up very, very well. Julia ended the weekend on a really down note wrt passing. Freshmen, RS and true...need a lot more reps.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 3, 2024 15:56:49 GMT -5
Anyone have passing numbers for any or all matches this weekend? Guess... SF - 2.2 JO - 2.1 SDamrow - 1.8 LS - 1.9 TSC - 1.6 Felt like Sarah passed a ton and held up very, very well. Julia ended thr weekend on a really down note wrt passing. Freshmen, RS and true...need a lot more reps. Texas served Franklin a ton - 46 of their 87 serves. But Stanford left her alone, only 4 balls. Stanford served Damrow 30 times, Shadd-Ceres 12, Julia 10. Schumacher 7. (No, I don't know the grades/scores. These numbers are from the pdf versions of the box scores that have been posted on the UW schedule page; I hope they keep posting them.)
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Post by netninja on Sept 3, 2024 16:04:10 GMT -5
Just like the team needs time to gel, Kelly needs time to see what his players are made of. Circumstances necessitate throwing TSC into the deep end, sink-or-swim situation, and that's what he's doing. He's letting Charlie run the show and coaching the hell out of her. He's giving young back row players a chance to see who steps up and how they do - he knows what GG can do but let's see what these other girls are capable of. He's calling out his seniors to step up and lead by example. He is making lineup adjustments along the way and will continue to do so I'm sure. And I think the players are responding and will continue to respond in a positive way. These are all signs of a great coach and a great program. Sucks to lose, but I have confidence in Kelly and the crew and look forward to seeing the team growth and hopefully full potential realized this season. This season will be a journey.
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Post by babyhusker on Sept 3, 2024 16:12:13 GMT -5
Anyone have passing numbers for any or all matches this weekend? Guess... SF - 2.2 JO - 2.1 SDamrow - 1.8 LS - 1.9 TSC - 1.6 Felt like Sarah passed a ton and held up very, very well. Julia ended the weekend on a really down note wrt passing. Freshmen, RS and true...need a lot more reps. According to VM, Schumacher passed 2.36 against Texas and in the 2.4s against Louisville. We don’t have the data against Stanford but she was served 7 balls, no way that dropped her below a 2. Damrow was 2 flat with Louisville and 1.8 against Texas, seems about right for yesterday. Oz was 2.06 if memory serves, probably about that too. Franklin should be floating near 2.25 at the very least
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Post by jade58 on Sept 3, 2024 16:53:29 GMT -5
Despite these recent setbacks against such strong opponents, the Badgers are still very much a top contender in the Big Ten, and their potential is limitless. With the talent and determination on this roster, I’m confident they’ll take the B1G by storm stronger than ever. I’m excited to see how they regroup and take on the rest of the season—they’ve got all the pieces to make a deep run, and I believe they will!
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 3, 2024 16:55:52 GMT -5
The team must be really banged up because it seems Wisconsin was replacing it's inconsistent/weaker players and returning its strengths - so a drop seems odd.
Though I guess the switch from 6-2 to 5-1 could be a blow as well, considering the importance of the block as well as forcing an MB/OPP who was part of the teams "strengths" out of the lineup.
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Post by pepperjack on Sept 3, 2024 16:57:08 GMT -5
Still super pumped about what our 2024 Badgers can do. Lets not forget the incredible depth and talent this team has. Sarah Franklin has been a force at the net, and the leadership from Izzy Ashburn has been outstanding in guiding the team through these tough matches. Carter Booth continues to impress with her blocking, and Temi Thomas-Ailara is a powerhouse on the outside.Despite these recent setbacks against such strong opponents, the Badgers are still very much a top contender in the Big Ten, and their potential is limitless. With the talent and determination on this roster, I’m confident they’ll take the B1G by storm stronger than ever. I’m excited to see how they regroup and take on the rest of the season—they’ve got all the pieces to make a deep run, and I believe they will! Izzy and TTA graduated, both now playing professionally.
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