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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 26, 2024 16:06:43 GMT -5
But Fuehrbringer has Franklin. Carlini nor Hilley had anyone even close to that good for a go to pin. Wisconsin should be 10-0 because she has Franklin? Carlini/Hilley would’ve made it through #6 Louisville, #1 Texas, #5 Stanford, RV TCU, #23 Baylor, RV Marquette, #18 Minnesota riding Franklin’s back? I mean for god’s sake give her some time to lose to Iowa like sophomore Hilley did before f*cking freaking out. I brought it up, so I'll answer this. I am not freaking out. But - I had high hopes for her this year that Charlie could by the end of the year be comparable to the top setters in the B1G and I'm recalibrating and realizing that it's not going to happen. If she can be the 6th or 7th best setter in the B1G by the end of the year (I think top 5 is clear, though admittedly I haven't seen Washington or Oregon this year) then I'd feel optimistic that we have a chance to get to Louisville. Otherwise - no. And if that happens, it's okay; Final Four or bust is an unhealthy fan attitude anyway.
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Post by netninja on Sept 26, 2024 16:42:44 GMT -5
First B1G game, tough road environment, motivated opponent - it's expected that Charlie would have some struggles. But GG, CC, Booth, Smrek, Devyn - that's like 16 years of experience and they all struggled. Still scratching my head about GG playing bro and staying for all 5 sets. I thought Lola did well. Disappointed with the loss and also with the performance - losing two sets by 10 points is under-performing. I still have high hopes that things will click for this team as I think we have a lot of really strong players who as a team have a very high ceiling.
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Post by dodger on Sept 26, 2024 17:11:21 GMT -5
But Fuehrbringer has Franklin. Carlini nor Hilley had anyone even close to that good for a go to pin. Wisconsin should be 10-0 because she has Franklin? Carlini/Hilley would’ve made it through #6 Louisville, #1 Texas, #5 Stanford, RV TCU, #23 Baylor, RV Marquette, #18 Minnesota riding Franklin’s back? I mean for god’s sake give her some time to lose to Iowa like sophomore Hilley did before f*cking freaking out. Freshman setter 2024 OH's; Food for thought: through first 9 matches ; Franklin 37.1K%, .265 Ef%, Orzol 40.K%, .269Ef%. smrek43.8K%,.299Ef%. 2 pins, one hurt for substantial part of season thus far. Freshman Setter 2017 (Halley) Sr OH Bates,40.2 K%,.271Ef%, Duehlo 46.9K%,, .331 Ef%, Loberg 38.5K%,.220Ef%, Gillis 47.7K%,.369EF% 2 seniors 1 junior 1 freshman all healthy and all with better K%'s than Franklin; in fact Franklin through first 9 matches numbers are a little lower than Orzal's??? Carlini and Hilley both had better circumstances than the present freshman imo.
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Post by dodger on Sept 26, 2024 17:19:47 GMT -5
Wisconsin is running same system as Texas did last year to win NCAA's : Franklin and skinner in the OH2 spot so they can be primary BR attack option. The only change I would make is put Robinson next to setter : she is best attacker off one foot and she is being waisted running slides so smirk can hit middle on serve receive 2x's. Robinsons Hitting far out ways the blocking advantage perceived by Booth being next to the setter. Robinson would open up Orzal more and the pipe for Franklin creating a bigger match up problemm for defenses. Robinson through first 9 matches; 49.2K%, .372Ef%. Blocking might suffer but you need to get out of these rotations with oral and setter in from row together and that's better siding out> Booths attack numbers through 9: 41.4K%,.337Ef%: blocking Both 20 stuffs, Robinson 19 stuffs, CC19 stuffs! And CC and Robinson splitting time! (These are VM stats so only person who blocks ball gets credit) not the NCAA stats
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Post by tablealgebra on Sept 26, 2024 17:25:22 GMT -5
First B1G game, tough road environment, motivated opponent - it's expected that Charlie would have some struggles. But GG, CC, Booth, Smrek, Devyn - that's like 16 years of experience and they all struggled. Still scratching my head about GG playing bro and staying for all 5 sets. I thought Lola did well. Disappointed with the loss and also with the performance - losing two sets by 10 points is under-performing. I still have high hopes that things will click for this team as I think we have a lot of really strong players who as a team have a very high ceiling. I'm not surprised. I don't think you make a switch like that and then pull the rug out early. Plus, probably 100% of their prep was "GG is playing libero, Lola is playing DS" and they wanted to keep with that. But don't be surprised to see Lola back in the jersey against Northwestern. If GG stays there, then I hope they also suit up Saige in the 2nd libero jersey, so that if GG gets frustrated they can pull her temporarily and just get her head back on straight before sending her back out.
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Post by photos1 on Sept 26, 2024 17:27:18 GMT -5
First B1G game, tough road environment, motivated opponent - it's expected that Charlie would have some struggles. But GG, CC, Booth, Smrek, Devyn - that's like 16 years of experience and they all struggled. Still scratching my head about GG playing bro and staying for all 5 sets. I thought Lola did well. Disappointed with the loss and also with the performance - losing two sets by 10 points is under-performing. I still have high hopes that things will click for this team as I think we have a lot of really strong players who as a team have a very high ceiling. Tough match…Minnesota is extremely gritty, who knew? The reason Wisconsin lost is not because of the setter…
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Post by dodger on Sept 26, 2024 18:28:20 GMT -5
Wisconsin is running same system as Texas did last year to win NCAA's : Franklin and skinner in the OH2 spot so they can be primary BR attack option. The only change I would make is put Robinson next to setter : she is best attacker off one foot and she is being waisted running slides so smirk can hit middle on serve receive 2x's. Robinsons Hitting far out ways the blocking advantage perceived by Booth being next to the setter. Robinson would open up Orzal more and the pipe for Franklin creating a bigger match up problemm for defenses. Robinson through first 9 matches; 49.2K%, .372Ef%. Blocking might suffer but you need to get out of these rotations with oral and setter in from row together and that's better siding out> Booths attack numbers through 9: 41.4K%,.337Ef%: blocking Both 20 stuffs, Robinson 19 stuffs, CC19 stuffs! And CC and Robinson splitting time! (These are VM stats so only person who blocks ball gets credit) not the NCAA stats amending my own post: they were running same system as Texas earlier in year and me presumed, incorrectly that they still are: NOPE: last night they switched to Franklin in the OH1 and when she was back row didn't pass all the time so she could be freed up to get into back row pattern early, let Orzal and the littles (sub for OPP), Lib and Orzal, those three did the largest number of receptions. and it appears that Minnesota targeted a lot of zone 1 and guessing here, because even when those are ok passes they usually miss a little more to the RF side of court ( toward zone 2) and when this happens charlies long set to the OH doesn't (or can't) make it!! and last night they targeted the s%$#t out of your Libero!! SR's: 67 for libero (1.80), 12 for Orzal (2.50), 5 for Schumacher (2.40) and Franklin 20 (1.65). But Franklin wasn't only passed when there were not 2 littles and Orzal in line up!
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Post by maigrey on Sept 26, 2024 18:51:59 GMT -5
First B1G game, tough road environment, motivated opponent - it's expected that Charlie would have some struggles. But GG, CC, Booth, Smrek, Devyn - that's like 16 years of experience and they all struggled. Still scratching my head about GG playing bro and staying for all 5 sets. I thought Lola did well. Disappointed with the loss and also with the performance - losing two sets by 10 points is under-performing. I still have high hopes that things will click for this team as I think we have a lot of really strong players who as a team have a very high ceiling. I'm not surprised. I don't think you make a switch like that and then pull the rug out early. Plus, probably 100% of their prep was "GG is playing libero, Lola is playing DS" and they wanted to keep with that. But don't be surprised to see Lola back in the jersey against Northwestern. If GG stays there, then I hope they also suit up Saige in the 2nd libero jersey, so that if GG gets frustrated they can pull her temporarily and just get her head back on straight before sending her back out. yes re: Saige. I was actually pretty shocked that in set four and five Sheffield didn't dress her or maile in the L2 Jersey just in case.
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Post by pepperjack on Sept 26, 2024 19:25:11 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. I don't think you make a switch like that and then pull the rug out early. Plus, probably 100% of their prep was "GG is playing libero, Lola is playing DS" and they wanted to keep with that. But don't be surprised to see Lola back in the jersey against Northwestern. If GG stays there, then I hope they also suit up Saige in the 2nd libero jersey, so that if GG gets frustrated they can pull her temporarily and just get her head back on straight before sending her back out. yes re: Saige. I was actually pretty shocked that in set four and five Sheffield didn't dress her or maile in the L2 Jersey just in case. Unsure why Saige didn’t play, confirmed that she’s not reinjured
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Post by pull3 on Sept 27, 2024 5:23:16 GMT -5
I feel sorry that Franklin needed to dash 6 feet to cover GG thats why her passing was %*$#ty.
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Post by batnasterson on Sept 27, 2024 8:22:10 GMT -5
yes re: Saige. I was actually pretty shocked that in set four and five Sheffield didn't dress her or maile in the L2 Jersey just in case. Unsure why Saige didn’t play, confirmed that she’s not reinjured This is purely speculation, but based on Kelly's comments about the bros not understanding the amount of work required to be a libero for the team, I'm leaning toward her not putting in enough work in his eyes. AGAIN purely speculation and I realize I could be grasping at straws here, but it's a kid who was playing on the 18's at her dad's club as a 13 year old, I doubt she's had to work as hard as everyone else, she was and still is such a gifted athlete, may just be the message he's trying to send to get her to grow to her true potential. PURELY SPECULATION
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 27, 2024 9:11:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure why everyone is that puzzled. Saige just has not passed that well this season - even when she was being used as the passing libero. She may not be injured, but she was cleared to play quite late. I think it has put her behind the curve of where the team needs her to be at the start of the season. She might catch up later, but the team needs an answer now.
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Post by 25or624 on Sept 27, 2024 10:11:41 GMT -5
I feel sorry that Franklin needed to dash 6 feet to cover GG thats why her passing was %*$#ty. @avid 2.0 posted the passing stats on the match thread:
GG: 1.80 (67) Franklin: 1.65 (20) Orzol: 2.5 (12) Lola: 2.4 (5) 1.89 as a team
Zeynep: 2.14 (28) Thibault: 1.50 (20) Acevedo: 1.79 (17) Hanson: 1.46 (13) Wucherer: 1.21 (7) 1.75 as a team
Kelly was right about out-passing The Gophers, but GG was a lightning rod and couldn't handle it. I'm trying to imagine how the match might have played out if she passed a 2.14 like "Z"; I think I Know the answer.
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Post by pull3 on Sept 27, 2024 10:23:42 GMT -5
I feel sorry that Franklin needed to dash 6 feet to cover GG thats why her passing was %*$#ty. @avid 2.0 posted the passing stats on the match thread:
GG: 1.80 (67) Franklin: 1.65 (20) Orzol: 2.5 (12) Lola: 2.4 (5) 1.89 as a team
Zeynep: 2.14 (28) Thibault: 1.50 (20) Acevedo: 1.79 (17) Hanson: 1.46 (13) Wucherer: 1.21 (7) 1.75 as a team
Kelly was right about out-passing The Gophers, but GG was a lightning rod and couldn't handle it. I'm trying to imagine how the match might have played out if she passed a 2.14 like "Z"; I think I Know the answer.
oh Lola, you deserved better.
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 27, 2024 10:24:03 GMT -5
I feel sorry that Franklin needed to dash 6 feet to cover GG thats why her passing was %*$#ty. @avid 2.0 posted the passing stats on the match thread:
GG: 1.80 (67) Franklin: 1.65 (20) Orzol: 2.5 (12) Lola: 2.4 (5) 1.89 as a team
Zeynep: 2.14 (28) Thibault: 1.50 (20) Acevedo: 1.79 (17) Hanson: 1.46 (13) Wucherer: 1.21 (7) 1.75 as a team
Kelly was right about out-passing The Gophers, but GG was a lightning rod and couldn't handle it. I'm trying to imagine how the match might have played out if she passed a 2.14 like "Z"; I think I Know the answer.
Still out passed them. Should have won that match given the talent on the team.
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