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Post by pull3 on Oct 1, 2024 11:58:28 GMT -5
In the latest press conference, Sheff was asked about the lineup at around 7:00 mark. At 9:38 he said, "disciplines themselves in a way on and off the court that forces us to play them...."
From what I've read between the lines, Lola lacks the off-court discipline to make Sheff choose between GG and her to be THE Libero.
Obviously he isn't talking about other regular players, unless it is about CC, but I doubt it.
Is it about Damrow? What is your thought?
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Post by wivol on Oct 1, 2024 14:06:39 GMT -5
Schumacher has a whole lot of growing to do both on and off the court, which is OK. But the sooner she realizes that coach Sheffield holds the keys, the better off she'll be. All of the Instagram/TikTok stuff can wait until after business is taken care of. Another player who had just a big a presence online before the season started is Maile Chan, but I noticed she quickly put an end to it once practices started in earnest. Hopefully Schumacher will figure it out because she has shown some nice play at times.
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Post by badgerguru on Oct 1, 2024 14:48:00 GMT -5
I don’t know why it would be a big deal that teenage girls are posting on social media? Maybe I’m missing something, but this doesn’t sound like something that anyone should have an issue with unless it was causing some sort of harm to the program or them. I’m really not sure, would like to hear what others stances are on that
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Post by maigrey on Oct 1, 2024 16:13:00 GMT -5
In the latest press conference, Sheff was asked about the lineup at around 7:00 mark. At 9:38 he said, "disciplines themselves in a way on and off the court that forces us to play them...." From what I've read between the lines, Lola lacks the off-court discipline to make Sheff choose between GG and her to be THE Libero. Obviously he isn't talking about other regular players, unless it is about CC, but I doubt it. Is it about Damrow? What is your thought? It's definitely not CC, that woman puts in the WEEEERK. It could be Damrow, Lola, or (but probably not) Booth. Damrow got the start in the L jersey, and the lost it because (IMO) she had passing issues and wasn't better than GG in that respect. I doubt it is her, because there wasn't any complaint last year and she saw the court a couple times as a DS/SS. Lola is new, and very talented. It (again IMO) is probably referring to her, but it doesn't mean it has anything to do with insta/SM. The culture at Wisc is "ALL-IN", and maybe she's just not yet taking practices as seriously as Sheff thinks she should. She could be distracted, or not putting in the work that KS expects, etc. There wasn't any concern with Booth last year, but also, there weren't 4 people for 3 jobs last year either. Maybe vbdiva (who has some in the know contacts) has more details?
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Post by BadgerAce42 on Oct 1, 2024 16:17:32 GMT -5
Ewwww, you guysssss, I don’t think we should speculate on whom, just agree that the staff expects a specific all-in mentality and team over > individual accolades. The moment we expect volleyball superstars to be me, me, me is when we’ve lost the magic.
We should let these young women mature as they do and hope it aligns with team expectations.
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Oct 1, 2024 16:19:16 GMT -5
Schumacher has a whole lot of growing to do both on and off the court, which is OK. But the sooner she realizes that coach Sheffield holds the keys, the better off she'll be. All of the Instagram/TikTok stuff can wait until after business is taken care of. Another player who had just a big a presence online before the season started is Maile Chan, but I noticed she quickly put an end to it once practices started in earnest. Hopefully Schumacher will figure it out because she has shown some nice play at times. Devyn Robinson post regularly on Tiktok, why is that not a problem? Same with CC. Honestly, I don't get why teenagers and women in their early 20s posting on social media is a problem, unless it's actively hurting the team in some way. Like actual criminal activity aside, short of her skipping practices or being belligerent towards Sheff/the captains/the rest of the team or breaking team rules, I don't get why does it matter what she does outside of practices. If GG puts in 12 hrs in practice and is still shanking balls left and right, while Lola only does 2 hours (purely an example) but is better than GG at passing, then why does it matter? Like if we want to talk about amount of work put in, then Damrow should start probably, because recovering from tendon tears is something that you have to work at basically 24/7, modifying the way you walk, put weights, the simplest of things. But with her, suddenly it's about performances not living up to par?
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Post by 25or624 on Oct 1, 2024 17:05:00 GMT -5
In the latest press conference, Sheff was asked about the lineup at around 7:00 mark. At 9:38 he said, "disciplines themselves in a way on and off the court that forces us to play them...." From what I've read between the lines, Lola lacks the off-court discipline to make Sheff choose between GG and her to be THE Libero. Obviously he isn't talking about other regular players, unless it is about CC, but I doubt it. Is it about Damrow? What is your thought? It's definitely not CC, that woman puts in the WEEEERK. It could be Damrow, Lola, or (but probably not) Booth. Damrow got the start in the L jersey, and the lost it because (IMO) she had passing issues and wasn't better than GG in that respect. I doubt it is her, because there wasn't any complaint last year and she saw the court a couple times as a DS/SS. Lola is new, and very talented. It (again IMO) is probably referring to her, but it doesn't mean it has anything to do with insta/SM. The culture at Wisc is "ALL-IN", and maybe she's just not yet taking practices as seriously as Sheff thinks she should. She could be distracted, or not putting in the work that KS expects, etc. There wasn't any concern with Booth last year, but also, there weren't 4 people for 3 jobs last year either. Maybe vbdiva (who has some in the know contacts) has more details? For context, I'll begin with Kelly's broader comments"
"Train in the right way, stacking good days."
"Take care of the other things in your life."
"Stay hungry."
"Continue to evolve and discipline themselves in a way on and off the court that forces us to play them ..."
This casts a wide net. In the absence of activity outside the acceptable norm as Kelly sees it, I doubt that social media is the issue.
What if someone is already struggling academically? That would be a real problem. We have no way of knowing what "other things" in players lives might be a current cause of concern for Kelly. I think we can be certain that any player who is a cause of concern has been counseled by Kelly and knows what the expectations are.
I don't think this implicates Saige in any way. Based on the interview she gave to Punzel, she was in much worse shape than we knew. She had a cadaver bone surgically implanted in her bad knee. She wasn't sure she could play again. Basically, she lost the whole year and then some. She's "way behind" where she wants to be and knows what Kelly's expectations are. As she noted, "I have a lot of work to do".
To me, Kelly just keeps riffing on his main theme, i.e. The Greats put in more work, way above and beyond mere mortals. If you want to be Barnes, work like Barnes did when she decided she wanted to be great. I'll note that Barnes wasn't the Barnes of 2021 when she was a freshman or sophomore.
So who was he talking about? Don't know and don't care. Maybe it's aimed at everyone. We'll know who jumped over the libero bar when someone has the jersey and keeps it.
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Post by pull3 on Oct 1, 2024 17:26:43 GMT -5
In the latest press conference, Sheff was asked about the lineup at around 7:00 mark. At 9:38 he said, "disciplines themselves in a way on and off the court that forces us to play them...." From what I've read between the lines, Lola lacks the off-court discipline to make Sheff choose between GG and her to be THE Libero. Obviously he isn't talking about other regular players, unless it is about CC, but I doubt it. Is it about Damrow? What is your thought? Lola is new, and very talented. It (again IMO) is probably referring to her, but it doesn't mean it has anything to do with insta/SM. The culture at Wisc is "ALL-IN", and maybe she's just not yet taking practices as seriously as Sheff thinks she should. She could be distracted, or not putting in the work that KS expects, etc.
I agree most of it, but I keep asking myself:
Does training count as on-court or off-court? You train on the court, right?
Sheffield specifically mentioned off-court and that's what worries me the most.
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Post by dodger on Oct 1, 2024 18:05:10 GMT -5
This issue being discussed about all in on and off the court?!!! Come on KS: why say something that increases speculation on your players. What happened to whats in the family stays in the family? The only reason to say what he’s saying is that he means the coaches are all in cant blame me when players aren’t and then throws allegations under the bus and here we go guessing what player: this is a coaching problem!!! Decisions: consistency: trust your instincts and stay with it! And don't put individual player crappola out to the public!! I know he was vague: i heard him talking to his setter early matches coaches miked up: and i would say he was anything but succinct. Please stop saying they have to be committed on and off court! You have new staff who starts practice Nov. 1 for LOVB: talk about not all in! I know you’ll all say she can do this ; but KS started this innuendo he needs to nip it
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Post by vbdiva on Oct 1, 2024 18:20:28 GMT -5
Kelly Sheffield is not a good x's and o's coach (thank Gary for that) - can't coach in a match for damn sure- he's a good salesman and buddy to the girls. He doesn't develop players -- case and point, Anna Smrek.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 1, 2024 19:31:00 GMT -5
This is the kind of conversation that happens on a week when we play Rutgers. You guys are thinking way too hard about this.
He's been asked if he had finalized a rotation, if he was done tinkering. Rather than answer, he decided to step back and discuss his long time philosophy regarding building people not just players. He has said similar things over and over in the past. That answer is meant to put the question at arms length - as not that relevant to his philosophy. He then gave a more concrete reason why he didn't want to answer -- he doesn't want any of his players think they can't break into into the lineup, or the starters to get too complacent. He ends by saying they are getting closer to answers but not yet, which is basically not saying much.
Basically, he's dancing around the question because he doesn't want to answer it, or he at least doesn't want to shut any doors. It pretty obvious to me watching he's not talking about anyone specific, and there is no reason to think he is talking about social media presence of the players.
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Post by badgervb982597 on Oct 1, 2024 21:06:35 GMT -5
Kelly Sheffield is not a good x's and o's coach (thank Gary for that) - can't coach in a match for damn sure- he's a good salesman and buddy to the girls. He doesn't develop players -- case in point, Anna Smrek. Vbdiva you are the most toxic person I have ever read on here and for whatever reason you have a vendetta against Smrek - why say anything if you have nothing good to say at all, you clearly have some kind of an inside with one of the players to be acting this way. Smrek was a middle her entire career before being made a pin hitter by KS and became a 2nd team all American. You don’t know volleyball and this slander towards Badger players shouldn’t be allowed
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Oct 1, 2024 21:40:33 GMT -5
Kelly Sheffield is not a good x's and o's coach (thank Gary for that) - can't coach in a match for damn sure- he's a good salesman and buddy to the girls. He doesn't develop players -- case and point, Anna Smrek. Because Sarah Franklin has regressed since she's been here amiright... Barnes got worse... Rettke came in an unfinished player, etc... What an absurd statement you made.
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Post by batnasterson on Oct 1, 2024 21:50:46 GMT -5
Kelly Sheffield is not a good x's and o's coach (thank Gary for that) - can't coach in a match for damn sure- he's a good salesman and buddy to the girls. He doesn't develop players -- case and point, Anna Smrek. What a crazy comment.
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Post by vbdiva on Oct 1, 2024 22:33:54 GMT -5
The basics are bothered.....
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