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Post by pointillinois on Dec 26, 2023 7:27:14 GMT -5
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Dec 26, 2023 8:19:23 GMT -5
Is Van Wie graduating early and will be available for spring scrimmages? Who's going to set otherwise?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 8:47:40 GMT -5
Is Van Wie graduating early and will be available for spring scrimmages? Who's going to set otherwise? Is MJ still taking classes 2nd semester? Is Izzy taking any graduate courses? Maybe one will still be around in the spring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 8:52:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 11:54:11 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you love the Volleyball Badgers! This picture extended my holiday glee for another day.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 26, 2023 14:15:36 GMT -5
If a player goes to another university because they can make more money, good riddance. I stopped watching college football and basketball because it was too much about money. I've always loved watching volleyball and fell in love with Badger volleyball when I attended a game in 2017; the season after bought season tickets. And I thought it had more immunity to the money trap. It's the last college sport I watch religiously. If money turns into the recruitment tool for volleyball it appears it's becoming, I'll walk away from it too. Yah, I know, it's probably too late. Which makes me sick. We're already to the point where a college volleyball player won't sign a player card for a 10 year old girl because it's not the company the player has a deal with, so I shouldn't be shocked. You’ve mentioned the 10 year old girl and the autograph twice in the last few days. In the least snarky way possible, can you tell us who you are referring to? NIL as it is currently constructed can effect any sport where a well funded donor, or group of donors, wants to spend money. In VB I think the list of girls making big money is pretty small. I’d think Texas and Nebraska lead the way with Wisconsin and a handful of others quite a bit behind. That’s just my perception tho. Yes, I have mentioned it more than once, cuz it bothered me so much. Here's a link to an article. www.si.com/fannation/name-image-likeness/news/nebraska-volleyball-star-lexi-rodriguez-inks-historic-nil-deal-panini-america-wad9Put this quote from the article in the context of what I witnessed. “I want to inspire the next generation of little girls,” she said. “I feel like that’s the majority of my following and my fan base. And so I’m always super excited whenever I receive opportunities, especially when it’s like the first female athlete to do it. I think it’s really a really cool opportunity because I want to make sure I’m sending out that message to little girls that kind of look up to me.” She sure sent a message to that little girl didn't she...
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Post by swaggyp on Dec 26, 2023 14:37:07 GMT -5
Yes, I have mentioned it more than once, cuz it bothered me so much. She sure sent a message to that little girl didn't she... Yeah this is sad, I agree. I'm not sure what else Lexi could have done in this situation short of breaking her commitment to Panini which is a whole different can of worms. Maybe sign a jersey or something? Maybe that wasn't possible in this situation, not sure. I guess zooming out, it's OK to be disgusted with some of the unintended consequences of NIL without necessarily localizing those feelings to this player. I'm not trying to tell you how to feel, of course, if you want to hate on Lexi because of this, be my guest. But me, I'm, uh, hating the game not the player, to mix a metaphor.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 26, 2023 14:46:31 GMT -5
Yes, I have mentioned it more than once, cuz it bothered me so much. She sure sent a message to that little girl didn't she... Yeah this is sad, I agree. I'm not sure what else Lexi could have done in this situation short of breaking her commitment to Panini which is a whole different can of worms. Maybe sign a jersey or something? Maybe that wasn't possible in this situation, not sure. I guess zooming out, it's OK to be disgusted with some of the unintended consequences of NIL without necessarily localizing those feelings to this player. I'm not trying to tell you how to feel, of course, if you want to hate on Lexi because of this, be my guest. But me, I'm, uh, hating the game not the player, to mix a metaphor. This is about 98% "hating" on NIL. I'm not sure Lexi put 2 and 2 together when she made that statement in the SI article. I don't know how she felt in that moment and after, but sure hope it made her think a lot. But, definitely, the point of what I'm saying is about what NIL is doing to the sport and it's players, and in turn young fans who might look up to the athletes.
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Post by swaggyp on Dec 26, 2023 14:51:44 GMT -5
But, definitely, the point of what I'm saying is about what NIL is doing to the sport and it's players, and in turn young fans who might look up to the athletes. For sure, on board with this sentiment 100%. If I could put the NIL toothpaste back in the tube, I would absolutely do it, because it's obvious we haven't got it right this time around. I'm sure there are people on these boards taking victory laps on this matter too. It's not that I don't want these athletes treated fairly (where they were treated unfairly prior to NIL, IMO, though I know there are those who disagree with me). It is that this current iteration of NIL sure seems like it makes collegiate athletics worse, not better. Maybe a few tweaks is all it will take to get it right, but I doubt it.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 26, 2023 15:14:57 GMT -5
I’m a little confused. The article doesn’t talk about what happened (assuming there was actually an incident). Are there other companies making player cards of Rodriguez out there, and this little girl had a not-Panini card? Or what?
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Post by ladyfan on Dec 26, 2023 15:34:17 GMT -5
I find it interesting to hear people talk about not watching college volleyball because money is now involved. Um…money’s been at the forefront for years before these athletes get anywhere near college. A D1 recruit whose family hasn’t been forking over money for club fees, trips, coaching sessions, etc. is a unicorn. Girls aren’t getting offers based on their 3-month high school season. Money has been flowing all along to clubs, coaches, directors, apparel companies, cities and venues that host youth tournaments, etc.
The college level is the first time the person making the money can be the person actually playing the game. It’s hard to see how that’s somehow terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 15:44:47 GMT -5
I find it interesting to hear people talk about not watching college volleyball because money is now involved. Um…money’s been at the forefront for years before these athletes get anywhere near college. A D1 recruit whose family hasn’t been forking over money for club fees, trips, coaching sessions, etc. is a unicorn. Girls aren’t getting offers based on their 3-month high school season. Money has been flowing all along to clubs, coaches, directors, apparel companies, cities and venues that host youth tournaments, etc. The college level is the first time the person making the money can be the person actually playing the game. It’s hard to see how that’s somehow terrible. The red herring could be the criticism that comes with no longer being 'true amateur' athletes as money is now part of the deal on top of a scholarship. Of course families of players on this forum are going to push back and never want to accept criticism of their loved one. That no criticism because these are just kids attitude will be challenged especially as NIL becomes more and more integrated and incoming money continues to rise.
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Post by 25or624 on Dec 26, 2023 15:46:52 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you love the Volleyball Badgers! This picture extended my holiday glee for another day. I can't see the picture in the OP, but I'm assuming it's The Badgers' Happy Holidays pictures posted on "X" and Instagram. I noticed Ella in the back row next to CC. My belated Christmas wish is that she stays with The Badgers and makes an All BIG Team in 2024.
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Post by swaggyp on Dec 26, 2023 16:11:01 GMT -5
I find it interesting to hear people talk about not watching college volleyball because money is now involved. Um…money’s been at the forefront for years before these athletes get anywhere near college. You're right, what silly geese we are for thinking that NIL was an important development that dramatically changed collegiate athletics. What a moron I am.
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Post by talkbdgrvb65 on Dec 26, 2023 16:24:26 GMT -5
I’m a little confused. The article doesn’t talk about what happened (assuming there was actually an incident). Are there other companies making player cards of Rodriguez out there, and this little girl had a not-Panini card? Or what? "Assuming there was actually an incident"? You're implying I'm making it up. For what purpose? Please... Surprisingly enough, yes, there are other companies who make cards of college volleyball players. The article is from October 31, 2023... What happened regarding turning down the signing of the card happened when Nebraska came to the Field House on November 24, 2023, so no, the article didn't mention an "incident" that happened a month AFTER it was written. We were standing and waiting to speak with Lexi, when a girl, I'm guessing around 10, came up to Lexi and handed her what appeared to be a small card asking her to sign it. Lexi grabbed it, looked at it, and said, "I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to sign this." Then her mom or grandma, I forget which one, explained that she could only sign certain cards. And the little girl, certainly a little confused, turned and walked away. If you'd like to catch me at a game next year, message me before and we'll work it out, I'll explain the circumstances around why we were waiting to speak with Lexi, and take you to exactly where we were standing when it happened. You'll understand this isn't about calling out Lexi, it's about a situation that needs more parameters around it before it gets any more out of control than it already is. Our high school football coach completely agrees with me about NIL. We were talking after this "incident" and he told me about some of the things recruiters say to his players they come and talk to. "It's out of control at this point and needs to be fixed." A verbatim quote.
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