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Post by swaggyp on Jan 6, 2024 15:08:03 GMT -5
How small is the rule change though? I'm having a hard time figuring that out from the language. . Just my opinion, I have no particular expertise on this matter: I think it is small. Let’s say there’s a spectrum of how far behind the play the player who intends to take the second touch is, from 1-10, 1 being right underneath it, 10 being running across the court to take it. I think there is a very small window where the “2nd touch with the same body part” substantially betters the ball. I’m making these numbers up, but my guess is at the D1 level, 1-4 on that spectrum, most players can easily get a good ball to a hitter without a second touch. 7-10, a second touch does nothing to to give the hitter an advantage, but might keep the play going. So 5 and 6 might be a place where there is a difference. I’d be happy to get educated on this though, I’m way out over my skis commenting on this. |
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Post by wisfan2000 on Jan 6, 2024 15:12:55 GMT -5
Sorry, I wasn’t clear. My interpretation is the rule change is to allow for having a passing libero in while receiving and a defense libero in while serving. Other use cases for sure, but this seems like the most advantageous. And you are correct about replacing an injured libero. Not sure if that changes now. That's a typical use. To use the Badgers as an example for next year, there'd be a possibility to have GG as the serving libero and Damrow/Schumacher as the receiving libero with the other playing the DS role. This allows for both GG's serve and floor defense/transition setting while potential hiding serve receive issues. Another option just for the heck of it would be to put Maike Chan in the second libero jersey if you think you're going to be using both Damrow and Schumacher as DSs. Then you've got a free sub if GG is having a rough receiving day and you want to give her a break. If I'm following, this sounds very disruptive to the game--subbing one libero for the other libero every time there's a side out? Maybe I'm not following. |
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Jan 6, 2024 15:18:25 GMT -5
Libero subs never count against the sub allotment. It's in the word: "free" in Italian, meaning a free sub, and free to move positions on the court. And now let’s teach everyone how to pronounce it. No worries, Anna Smrek already know how to do so properly |
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Post by badgersinsix on Jan 6, 2024 15:22:28 GMT -5
That's a typical use. To use the Badgers as an example for next year, there'd be a possibility to have GG as the serving libero and Damrow/Schumacher as the receiving libero with the other playing the DS role. This allows for both GG's serve and floor defense/transition setting while potential hiding serve receive issues. Another option just for the heck of it would be to put Maike Chan in the second libero jersey if you think you're going to be using both Damrow and Schumacher as DSs. Then you've got a free sub if GG is having a rough receiving day and you want to give her a break. If I'm following, this sounds very disruptive to the game--subbing one libero for the other libero every time there's a side out? Maybe I'm not following. You are following. However, it is not subbing, it is switching. Mentioning that in case the time it would take is the part that seems disruptive. They just run on and off for each other before the next server even gets the ball, so not disruptive time wise. If you mean continuity of people on the court and next to each other, I could see that. Up to each team/player as to whether it would work well for them. |
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Post by wisfan2000 on Jan 6, 2024 15:27:45 GMT -5
If I'm following, this sounds very disruptive to the game--subbing one libero for the other libero every time there's a side out? Maybe I'm not following. You are following. However, it is not subbing, it is switching. Mentioning that in case the time it would take is the part that seems disruptive. They just run on and off for each other before the next server even gets the ball, so not disruptive time wise. If you mean continuity of people on the court and next to each other, I could see that. Up to each team/player as to whether it would work well for them. Thanks, I was thinking both, and I see your last point especially. If the coach/team thinks there is enough upside to switching, then maybe that outweighs the downside of losing continuinty (sort of like 6-2 vs. 5-1). |
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Post by maigrey on Jan 6, 2024 15:33:46 GMT -5
That's a typical use. To use the Badgers as an example for next year, there'd be a possibility to have GG as the serving libero and Damrow/Schumacher as the receiving libero with the other playing the DS role. This allows for both GG's serve and floor defense/transition setting while potential hiding serve receive issues. Another option just for the heck of it would be to put Maike Chan in the second libero jersey if you think you're going to be using both Damrow and Schumacher as DSs. Then you've got a free sub if GG is having a rough receiving day and you want to give her a break. If I'm following, this sounds very disruptive to the game--subbing one libero for the other libero every time there's a side out? Maybe I'm not following. It might be disruptive if the liberos had to check in with the ref every time they switched, but they don't. They just go in and switch out the player. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 6, 2024 15:54:54 GMT -5
If I'm following, this sounds very disruptive to the game--subbing one libero for the other libero every time there's a side out? Maybe I'm not following. It might be disruptive if the liberos had to check in with the ref every time they switched, but they don't. They just go in and switch out the player. USA did it a bunch at VNL this summer. JWO passed and Hentz dug. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Jan 6, 2024 16:35:10 GMT -5
Libero subs never count against the sub allotment. It's in the word: "free" in Italian, meaning a free sub, and free to move positions on the court. And now let’s teach everyone how to pronounce it. Ha ha ha, that is hopeless. Once Americans get a hold of a wrong pronunciation, it's forever. |
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Post by wisfan2000 on Jan 6, 2024 16:40:42 GMT -5
And now let’s teach everyone how to pronounce it. Ha ha ha, that is hopeless. Once Americans get a hold of a wrong pronunciation, it's forever. I'll toast to that with an expresso and a crosawnt. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Jan 6, 2024 16:59:30 GMT -5
Ha ha ha, that is hopeless. Once Americans get a hold of a wrong pronunciation, it's forever. I'll toast to that with an expresso and a crosawnt. For maximum effect, do that toast in Des Plaines. (pronounced "dez plainz" for all you non-Chicagolanders) |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 6, 2024 20:01:20 GMT -5
WE HAVE A BINGO! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
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Post by mnvolly on Jan 6, 2024 20:12:00 GMT -5
WE HAVE A BINGO! THIS IS NOT A DRILL! Who do we think it is?? |
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Jan 6, 2024 20:17:25 GMT -5
WE HAVE A BINGO! THIS IS NOT A DRILL! Who do we think it is?? Do we know if any transfers who’ve been looking at Wisconsin? There’s not been much on the transfer tea thread about Wisconsin. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Jan 6, 2024 20:28:10 GMT -5
Looks like Carly Anderson, 5-9 transfer setter from Montana. Will have one year of eligibility.
She’s from Toronto; so we will have two Canadians!
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