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Post by wastetheyears on Sept 5, 2024 21:07:33 GMT -5
Cook said in the postgame they're having talks about redshirting Skyler.
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Post by staticb on Sept 5, 2024 22:02:56 GMT -5
Why is Nebraska playing The Citadel? 27-3, 10-2 record last year and they are expected to win their conference again. RPI bonanza, don't hate the players for playing the game.
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Post by tedheise on Sept 6, 2024 8:21:10 GMT -5
that is actually pretty effing gross. Absolutely disgusting, especially all the Nebraska fans here “standing with” a convicted child predator. By the way, all of this stuff is google-able. It's gross. This guy preyed on a 15-year-old girl and is now in here blaming her. The volleyball community has a bad enough track record supporting sexual predators who make lame excuses (whose @$$%*!* detector didn't go off when he said he was waving around a psychologist's paper saying he was "incapable" of doing the crime he was convicted of?). And yes, it was a long time ago and people should be forgiven, but based on that post he's apparently still victim-blaming instead of taking responsibility and growing from it. Stuff like this makes the news and you can gauge it against the alleged excuses - www.chicagotribune.com/2005/02/16/instructor-faces-porn-charges/ willcountysao.com/2019/01/man-gets-three-years-in-prison-for-possession-of-child-pornography/ Okay, my apologies for protracting this topic, but I feel a need to respond. First, thanks to c4ndlelight for posting the links. They are indeed sobering.
Second, there are a couple of different accounts intertwined in the previous posts. I am not addressing the other one (an 18 year old getting his 14 year old girlfriend pregnant).
All that said, I'm not convinced the article in the Tribune is correct. For example, I've seen evidence that the girl in question was 17 rather than 15 as reported. I realize that the charges are still meaningful, but it raises questions (at least in my mind) about the reliability of the reporting.
Furthermore, the conviction could well have resulted from a plea deal, as recounted by juancook. If he was set up, ongoing statements to that effect are not victim-blaming.
Happenings like this are fraught matters. I've talked to juancook and believe he is sincere and truthful. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I've really tried to be thoughtful about all of this. I'm not one of those who object to the Me Too movement, rather, I think it has been a very good thing.
I hope these additional comments may move me out of the "gross" and "disgusting" categories, but understand that may not be the case.
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Post by rjaege on Sept 6, 2024 11:20:39 GMT -5
Absolutely disgusting, especially all the Nebraska fans here “standing with” a convicted child predator. By the way, all of this stuff is google-able. It's gross. This guy preyed on a 15-year-old girl and is now in here blaming her. The volleyball community has a bad enough track record supporting sexual predators who make lame excuses (whose @$$%*!* detector didn't go off when he said he was waving around a psychologist's paper saying he was "incapable" of doing the crime he was convicted of?). And yes, it was a long time ago and people should be forgiven, but based on that post he's apparently still victim-blaming instead of taking responsibility and growing from it. Stuff like this makes the news and you can gauge it against the alleged excuses - www.chicagotribune.com/2005/02/16/instructor-faces-porn-charges/ willcountysao.com/2019/01/man-gets-three-years-in-prison-for-possession-of-child-pornography/ Okay, my apologies for protracting this topic, but I feel a need to respond. First, thanks to c4ndlelight for posting the links. They are indeed sobering.
Second, there are a couple of different accounts intertwined in the previous posts. I am not addressing the other one (an 18 year old getting his 14 year old girlfriend pregnant).
All that said, I'm not convinced the article in the Tribune is correct. For example, I've seen evidence that the girl in question was 17 rather than 15 as reported. I realize that the charges are still meaningful, but it raises questions (at least in my mind) about the reliability of the reporting.
Furthermore, the conviction could well have resulted from a plea deal, as recounted by juancook. If he was set up, ongoing statements to that effect are not victim-blaming.
Happenings like this are fraught matters. I've talked to juancook and believe he is sincere and truthful. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I've really tried to be thoughtful about all of this. I'm not one of those who object to the Me Too movement, rather, I think it has been a very good thing.
I hope these additional comments may move me out of the "gross" and "disgusting" categories, but understand that may not be the case.
I am not able to access the Chicago Tribune article. I accessed another article. It didn't help me sort out stuff much. I didn't see victim blaming in that article. He said he didn't take the Pic rather a different 17 yr old did. Regardless if he knew and kept the pic he was guilty. That was 20 yrs ago. He has served time in prison. Something I do not know: was there just one Pic? Men addicted to porn typically have oodles of it. Even once caught, they do more and get caught again. My main point being what inappropriate stuff has juancook put or did on volleytalk. Nothing I've seen. If not, why is he being attacked on VT for being a fan of WVB?
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Sept 6, 2024 15:01:56 GMT -5
serious question-why did Nebraska slam the schedule? Game 5 tonight and technically the season started Friday (I understand they started last Tuesday). Has any other team even had 4 games? I've wondered this too. When we played SMU someone pointed out that it was already our fourth game in like six days. That's a lot for anyone, especially with travel. to be fair, this was smu's 3rd match in 5 days, plus travel back from hawaii. both teams were dealing with scheduling/travel strains ...
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Post by knapplc on Sept 6, 2024 15:19:47 GMT -5
Move this conversation to Off The Net. This has nothing to do with Nebraska Volleyball.
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Post by cornfarmer on Sept 6, 2024 16:00:28 GMT -5
I've wondered this too. When we played SMU someone pointed out that it was already our fourth game in like six days. That's a lot for anyone, especially with travel. to be fair, this was smu's 3rd match in 5 days, plus travel back from hawaii. both teams were dealing with scheduling/travel strains ... I remember the broadcast saying that! Tough scheduling for both teams
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Post by tedheise on Sept 6, 2024 16:09:52 GMT -5
Good observations about the Nebraska-SMU match...
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Post by HOLIDAY on Sept 6, 2024 16:18:56 GMT -5
Forgive me, this is totally random but I have to say it. It's been bugging me. I think Beason has the best posture I've ever seen. She looks like she spent several years in the 1800's walking around with library books balanced on her head. She is so incredibly classy. Impressive young lady.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Sept 6, 2024 16:21:43 GMT -5
Okay, my apologies for protracting this topic, but I feel a need to respond. First, thanks to c4ndlelight for posting the links. They are indeed sobering.
Second, there are a couple of different accounts intertwined in the previous posts. I am not addressing the other one (an 18 year old getting his 14 year old girlfriend pregnant).
All that said, I'm not convinced the article in the Tribune is correct. For example, I've seen evidence that the girl in question was 17 rather than 15 as reported. I realize that the charges are still meaningful, but it raises questions (at least in my mind) about the reliability of the reporting.
Furthermore, the conviction could well have resulted from a plea deal, as recounted by juancook. If he was set up, ongoing statements to that effect are not victim-blaming.
Happenings like this are fraught matters. I've talked to juancook and believe he is sincere and truthful. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I've really tried to be thoughtful about all of this. I'm not one of those who object to the Me Too movement, rather, I think it has been a very good thing.
I hope these additional comments may move me out of the "gross" and "disgusting" categories, but understand that may not be the case.
I am not able to access the Chicago Tribune article. I accessed another article. It didn't help me sort out stuff much. I didn't see victim blaming in that article. He said he didn't take the Pic rather a different 17 yr old did. Regardless if he knew and kept the pic he was guilty. That was 20 yrs ago. He has served time in prison. Something I do not know: was there just one Pic? Men addicted to porn typically have oodles of it. Even once caught, they do more and get caught again. My main point being what inappropriate stuff has juancook put or did on volleytalk. Nothing I've seen. If not, why is he being attacked on VT for being a fan of WVB? Amen, the drama over here is worse than OTN.
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Post by blue10 on Sept 6, 2024 16:26:35 GMT -5
I am not able to access the Chicago Tribune article. I accessed another article. It didn't help me sort out stuff much. I didn't see victim blaming in that article. He said he didn't take the Pic rather a different 17 yr old did. Regardless if he knew and kept the pic he was guilty. That was 20 yrs ago. He has served time in prison. Something I do not know: was there just one Pic? Men addicted to porn typically have oodles of it. Even once caught, they do more and get caught again. My main point being what inappropriate stuff has juancook put or did on volleytalk. Nothing I've seen. If not, why is he being attacked on VT for being a fan of WVB? Amen, the drama over here is worse than OTN. I-
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Post by alhorford90 on Sept 6, 2024 16:51:09 GMT -5
Absolutely disgusting, especially all the Nebraska fans here “standing with” a convicted child predator. By the way, all of this stuff is google-able. It's gross. This guy preyed on a 15-year-old girl and is now in here blaming her. The volleyball community has a bad enough track record supporting sexual predators who make lame excuses (whose @$$%*!* detector didn't go off when he said he was waving around a psychologist's paper saying he was "incapable" of doing the crime he was convicted of?). And yes, it was a long time ago and people should be forgiven, but based on that post he's apparently still victim-blaming instead of taking responsibility and growing from it. Stuff like this makes the news and you can gauge it against the alleged excuses - www.chicagotribune.com/2005/02/16/instructor-faces-porn-charges/ willcountysao.com/2019/01/man-gets-three-years-in-prison-for-possession-of-child-pornography/ Okay, my apologies for protracting this topic, but I feel a need to respond. First, thanks to c4ndlelight for posting the links. They are indeed sobering.
Second, there are a couple of different accounts intertwined in the previous posts. I am not addressing the other one (an 18 year old getting his 14 year old girlfriend pregnant).
All that said, I'm not convinced the article in the Tribune is correct. For example, I've seen evidence that the girl in question was 17 rather than 15 as reported. I realize that the charges are still meaningful, but it raises questions (at least in my mind) about the reliability of the reporting.
Furthermore, the conviction could well have resulted from a plea deal, as recounted by juancook. If he was set up, ongoing statements to that effect are not victim-blaming.
Happenings like this are fraught matters. I've talked to juancook and believe he is sincere and truthful. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I've really tried to be thoughtful about all of this. I'm not one of those who object to the Me Too movement, rather, I think it has been a very good thing.
I hope these additional comments may move me out of the "gross" and "disgusting" categories, but understand that may not be the case.
“Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow and Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan announce that a former volunteer band instructor from Naperville Central High School was sentenced to three years in prison today (Thursday, Jan. 8, 2009) for possessing pornographic digital images of a 15-year-old girl.” Press Release from the state attorney’s office. Was he set up by the WILL County state attorney and the Illinois AG? I agree this has nothing to do with watching women’s college volleyball. Stand by your friend but don’t gaslight us about the actual case and his guilt and then the name change, moving to a new state and then failing to register.
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Post by LittleRed on Sept 6, 2024 17:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 6, 2024 18:35:12 GMT -5
I am not able to access the Chicago Tribune article. I accessed another article. It didn't help me sort out stuff much. I didn't see victim blaming in that article. He said he didn't take the Pic rather a different 17 yr old did. Regardless if he knew and kept the pic he was guilty. That was 20 yrs ago. He has served time in prison. Something I do not know: was there just one Pic? Men addicted to porn typically have oodles of it. Even once caught, they do more and get caught again. My main point being what inappropriate stuff has juancook put or did on volleytalk. Nothing I've seen. If not, why is he being attacked on VT for being a fan of WVB? Amen, the drama over here is worse than OTN. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the irony is too much !
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Post by allballs on Sept 6, 2024 22:57:52 GMT -5
Okay, my apologies for protracting this topic, but I feel a need to respond. First, thanks to c4ndlelight for posting the links. They are indeed sobering.
Second, there are a couple of different accounts intertwined in the previous posts. I am not addressing the other one (an 18 year old getting his 14 year old girlfriend pregnant).
All that said, I'm not convinced the article in the Tribune is correct. For example, I've seen evidence that the girl in question was 17 rather than 15 as reported. I realize that the charges are still meaningful, but it raises questions (at least in my mind) about the reliability of the reporting.
Furthermore, the conviction could well have resulted from a plea deal, as recounted by juancook . If he was set up, ongoing statements to that effect are not victim-blaming.
Happenings like this are fraught matters. I've talked to juancook and believe he is sincere and truthful. Perhaps I'm being naive, but I've really tried to be thoughtful about all of this. I'm not one of those who object to the Me Too movement, rather, I think it has been a very good thing.
I hope these additional comments may move me out of the "gross" and "disgusting" categories, but understand that may not be the case.
“Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow and Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan announce that a former volunteer band instructor from Naperville Central High School was sentenced to three years in prison today (Thursday, Jan. 8, 2009) for possessing pornographic digital images of a 15-year-old girl.” Press Release from the state attorney’s office. Was he set up by the WILL County state attorney and the Illinois AG? I agree this has nothing to do with watching women’s college volleyball. Stand by your friend but don’t gaslight us about the actual case and his guilt and then the name change, moving to a new state and then failing to register. omfg stfu already
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