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Post by badgerbyproxy on Nov 18, 2024 11:57:52 GMT -5
Well, we’re two weeks out from the end of the regular season. With everything winding down, who would be everyone’s top three picks for each “Of the Year” award? I’d have the “finalists” as the following: Coach: KSC, John Cook, Leslie Gabriel Player: Sarah Franklin, Eva Hudson, Jess Mruzik Setter: Bergen Reilly, Izzy Starck, Charlie Fuerbringer Defensive: Lexi Rodriguez, Raven Colvin, Phoebe Awoleye Freshman: Izzy Starck, Charlie Fuerbringer, Julia Hunt I like this. I agree on coaches and probably POY. I do think Julia Hanson warrants some consideration - she’s really put the Gophs on her back For DPOY, they seem to reallllly prefer choosing a libero over a middle, even if the middle has earned it. I think Lexi, Gary, and Hornung would be my three. But I hope Colvin gets it. Freshman, I think Starck gets it without much fanfare. After her, Fuerbringer and Philpot. I like Philpot’s game more than Hunt’s and Hunt hasn’t had a great showing in big games. SOY maybe has the most competition. Starck or Reilly are probably the most likely, with Tuaniga, Anderson, and Shaff having an outside chance. Not Haworth’s year, unfortunately. Izzy and Bergen have almost opposite strengths - Izzy’s location and offense are really strong and she’s great at getting the most she can out of her dominant hitters. Bergen spreads the offense around way more, seems a bit more deceptive based on the eye test, and is better defensively. I think she’s tried to be too crafty at times this year, and it’s hurt her pure setting. Interested to see what the committee prefers. Bergen has higher a/s, d/s, SA/s, and NE is hitting at a higher clip than PSU…by 0.01. Izzy has more b/s, seems more consistent location-wise. Bergen also has way better passers, and that’s a huge factor. I could see them splitting the difference and giving Starck FOY and Bergen SOY, but would not be surprised to see Starck take both. Hanson definitely warrants consideration, and I debated having her in over Mruzik. The tiebreaker was just that Minnesota’s had too many lapses in conference play this year to give her the edge over Mruzik. If I was solely picking Liberos, I’d go with Lexi, Hornung, and Iosia (in spite of MSU’s season). As much as I’d love to see Colvin win, it’s Lexi’s to lose. For freshman, we’ll see how Penn State plays down the stretch. Starck got a lot of fanfare early on, but Penn State’s had some head scratching results recently, and if they go 0-2 against Nebraska and Purdue, I could see the race opening up. Philpot was my first out for freshman. Hunt’s stats are just slightly better, but Philpot certainly has a case for consideration. Setter is very open, and I’m very glad we’re back in an era of dominant Big 10 setters. Anderson was my first out for this list, but she’s had a very good season. Shaffmaster and Tuaniga are superb, but both Minnesota and USC have had too many lapses in conference playin my book. |
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Post by babyhusker on Nov 18, 2024 12:09:26 GMT -5
I like this. I agree on coaches and probably POY. I do think Julia Hanson warrants some consideration - she’s really put the Gophs on her back For DPOY, they seem to reallllly prefer choosing a libero over a middle, even if the middle has earned it. I think Lexi, Gary, and Hornung would be my three. But I hope Colvin gets it. Freshman, I think Starck gets it without much fanfare. After her, Fuerbringer and Philpot. I like Philpot’s game more than Hunt’s and Hunt hasn’t had a great showing in big games. SOY maybe has the most competition. Starck or Reilly are probably the most likely, with Tuaniga, Anderson, and Shaff having an outside chance. Not Haworth’s year, unfortunately. Izzy and Bergen have almost opposite strengths - Izzy’s location and offense are really strong and she’s great at getting the most she can out of her dominant hitters. Bergen spreads the offense around way more, seems a bit more deceptive based on the eye test, and is better defensively. I think she’s tried to be too crafty at times this year, and it’s hurt her pure setting. Interested to see what the committee prefers. Bergen has higher a/s, d/s, SA/s, and NE is hitting at a higher clip than PSU…by 0.01. Izzy has more b/s, seems more consistent location-wise. Bergen also has way better passers, and that’s a huge factor. I could see them splitting the difference and giving Starck FOY and Bergen SOY, but would not be surprised to see Starck take both. Hanson definitely warrants consideration, and I debated having her in over Mruzik. The tiebreaker was just that Minnesota’s had too many lapses in conference play this year to give her the edge over Mruzik. If I was solely picking Liberos, I’d go with Lexi, Hornung, and Iosia (in spite of MSU’s season). As much as I’d love to see Colvin win, it’s Lexi’s to lose. For freshman, we’ll see how Penn State plays down the stretch. Starck got a lot of fanfare early on, but Penn State’s had some head scratching results recently, and if they go 0-2 against Nebraska and Purdue, I could see the race opening up. Philpot was my first out for freshman. Hunt’s stats are just slightly better, but Philpot certainly has a case for consideration. Setter is very open, and I’m very glad we’re back in an era of dominant Big 10 setters. Anderson was my first out for this list, but she’s had a very good season. Shaffmaster and Tuaniga are superb, but both Minnesota and USC have had too many lapses in conference playin my book. I agree with all of that. I think it's probably between 3 or 4 for POY. For the others, it's hard to pick three when there feels like one or two clear frontrunners. I think season success matters more than the committee might admit, and that makes me think that Frank, Lexi, Starck, and Bergen take this year's awards. Top three in the conference (right now), that might be what does it. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 18, 2024 12:34:43 GMT -5
I wonder if Michigan or UCLA have a chance at an NCAA bid if they win out. Both schedules are doable with home matches against Oregon, and UCLA traveling to Illinois. Those two teams look to me like they should be closer to the top 9 instead of the bottom 7 like they are. quit looking at records and look at RPI - UCLA at 61 is such a very very long shot - they would almost have to jump 20 spots - Michigan has no shot at 91 Some teams have gotten in 2 of the last 3 years with RPI’s in the 52-56 range, it’s not unheard of, and some of the teams that got in with that RPI didn’t have profiles that different from UCLA. You are right re: Michigan. UCLA is unlikely, but by no means are they out of this just yet. Every teams RPI potential is different at this point. For example, Purdue has a ton of upside in RPI if they win. They had a backloaded schedule in terms of W/L records/opponents. |
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Post by kevinmalone on Nov 18, 2024 12:54:19 GMT -5
quit looking at records and look at RPI - UCLA at 61 is such a very very long shot - they would almost have to jump 20 spots - Michigan has no shot at 91 Some teams have gotten in 2 of the last 3 years with RPI’s in the 52-56 range, it’s not unheard of, and some of the teams that got in with that RPI didn’t have profiles that different from UCLA. You are right re: Michigan. UCLA is unlikely, but by no means are they out of this just yet. Every teams RPI potential is different at this point. For example, Purdue has a ton of upside in RPI if they win. They had a backloaded schedule in terms of W/L records/opponents. UCLA needed all 4 matches to be teams with higher RPI - Indiana 90, Not helping - Illinois 29, Helping - Iowa 184, just stepping on the court kills their RPI, Oregon 18, obviously helps - do you still need a .500 record to get into tourney? if that is the case then UCLA needs to go 3-1 over the next 4 matches |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 18, 2024 14:17:48 GMT -5
Some teams have gotten in 2 of the last 3 years with RPI’s in the 52-56 range, it’s not unheard of, and some of the teams that got in with that RPI didn’t have profiles that different from UCLA. You are right re: Michigan. UCLA is unlikely, but by no means are they out of this just yet. Every teams RPI potential is different at this point. For example, Purdue has a ton of upside in RPI if they win. They had a backloaded schedule in terms of W/L records/opponents. UCLA needed all 4 matches to be teams with higher RPI - Indiana 90, Not helping - Illinois 29, Helping - Iowa 184, just stepping on the court kills their RPI, Oregon 18, obviously helps - do you still need a .500 record to get into tourney? if that is the case then UCLA needs to go 3-1 over the next 4 matches Yes, you need to be .500. I don't see how 3-1 will be good enough, UCLA needs to go 4-0. Also, to your comment re: need all 4 matches to be higher RPI, this is a common misconception with RPI. Playing #87 Ball State is way, way, way better than playing #90 Indiana. UCLA needs raw RPI help, which means good W/L teams. UCLA would be thrilled to play #224 Fairleigh Dickinson. They will have a better RPI for winning that match than if they beat Indiana. Regardless, I don't think UCLA puts it together to win four straight matches to make the tournament. But if they do, they're in. |
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Post by dbro1970 on Nov 18, 2024 14:36:24 GMT -5
Well, we’re two weeks out from the end of the regular season. With everything winding down, who would be everyone’s top three picks for each “Of the Year” award? I’d have the “finalists” as the following: Coach: KSC, John Cook, Leslie Gabriel Player: Sarah Franklin, Eva Hudson, Jess Mruzik Setter: Bergen Reilly, Izzy Starck, Charlie Fuerbringer Defensive: Lexi Rodriguez, Raven Colvin, Phoebe Awoleye Freshman: Izzy Starck, Charlie Fuerbringer, Julia Hunt Coach: KSC is my favorite... Cooks not on my list with his returners and talent, Ulmer is, with the turnover he has had. Player: Franklin is leading this with Eva right on her tails, Jess has reallly fallen off lately Agree with the rest. |
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Post by PpprPrtnr on Nov 18, 2024 15:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Nov 18, 2024 15:12:12 GMT -5
Well, we’re two weeks out from the end of the regular season. With everything winding down, who would be everyone’s top three picks for each “Of the Year” award? I’d have the “finalists” as the following: Coach: KSC, John Cook, Leslie Gabriel Player: Sarah Franklin, Eva Hudson, Jess Mruzik Setter: Bergen Reilly, Izzy Starck, Charlie Fuerbringer Defensive: Lexi Rodriguez, Raven Colvin, Phoebe Awoleye Freshman: Izzy Starck, Charlie Fuerbringer, Julia Hunt Coach: KSC is my favorite... Cooks not on my list with his returners and talent, Ulmer is, with the turnover he has had. Player: Franklin is leading this with Eva right on her tails, Jess has reallly fallen off lately Agree with the rest. Ulmer has a case for consideration for sure. I put J Cook in because Nebraska’s still undefeated at this point, and has a very realistic shot at going undefeated again, which is incredibly rare in this conference. Not counting COVID spring season, the last undefeated Big 10 champ was 2009 Penn State. Oregon’s doing well, but they’re also on par with where everyone expected them to be coming into the season: they were picked to finished 6th in the preseason poll and are currently 5th and only a game ahead of Minnesota and USC. While Ulmer’s doing a good job with a young team, the results just aren’t “wow” enough for me. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 18, 2024 15:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by GoGophs on Nov 18, 2024 15:43:09 GMT -5
I like this. I agree on coaches and probably POY. I do think Julia Hanson warrants some consideration - she’s really put the Gophs on her back For DPOY, they seem to reallllly prefer choosing a libero over a middle, even if the middle has earned it. I think Lexi, Gary, and Hornung would be my three. But I hope Colvin gets it. Freshman, I think Starck gets it without much fanfare. After her, Fuerbringer and Philpot. I like Philpot’s game more than Hunt’s and Hunt hasn’t had a great showing in big games. SOY maybe has the most competition. Starck or Reilly are probably the most likely, with Tuaniga, Anderson, and Shaff having an outside chance. Not Haworth’s year, unfortunately. Izzy and Bergen have almost opposite strengths - Izzy’s location and offense are really strong and she’s great at getting the most she can out of her dominant hitters. Bergen spreads the offense around way more, seems a bit more deceptive based on the eye test, and is better defensively. I think she’s tried to be too crafty at times this year, and it’s hurt her pure setting. Interested to see what the committee prefers. Bergen has higher a/s, d/s, SA/s, and NE is hitting at a higher clip than PSU…by 0.01. Izzy has more b/s, seems more consistent location-wise. Bergen also has way better passers, and that’s a huge factor. I could see them splitting the difference and giving Starck FOY and Bergen SOY, but would not be surprised to see Starck take both. Hanson definitely warrants consideration, and I debated having her in over Mruzik. The tiebreaker was just that Minnesota’s had too many lapses in conference play this year to give her the edge over Mruzik. If I was solely picking Liberos, I’d go with Lexi, Hornung, and Iosia (in spite of MSU’s season). As much as I’d love to see Colvin win, it’s Lexi’s to lose. For freshman, we’ll see how Penn State plays down the stretch. Starck got a lot of fanfare early on, but Penn State’s had some head scratching results recently, and if they go 0-2 against Nebraska and Purdue, I could see the race opening up. Philpot was my first out for freshman. Hunt’s stats are just slightly better, but Philpot certainly has a case for consideration. Setter is very open, and I’m very glad we’re back in an era of dominant Big 10 setters. Anderson was my first out for this list, but she’s had a very good season. Shaffmaster and Tuaniga are superb, but both Minnesota and USC have had too many lapses in conference playin my book. Iosia deserves so much more credit than she gets. She pretty much carries the Spartans on her back... they'll be a totally different team without her next season. Happy she got DPOW this week! |
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Post by heystvn on Nov 18, 2024 16:59:09 GMT -5
Hoping for an Allison Jacobs return this weekend to try and salvage the remainder of Michigan's season.
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Post by maigrey on Nov 18, 2024 19:57:24 GMT -5
I like this. I agree on coaches and probably POY. I do think Julia Hanson warrants some consideration - she’s really put the Gophs on her back For DPOY, they seem to reallllly prefer choosing a libero over a middle, even if the middle has earned it. I think Lexi, Gary, and Hornung would be my three. But I hope Colvin gets it. Freshman, I think Starck gets it without much fanfare. After her, Fuerbringer and Philpot. I like Philpot’s game more than Hunt’s and Hunt hasn’t had a great showing in big games. SOY maybe has the most competition. Starck or Reilly are probably the most likely, with Tuaniga, Anderson, and Shaff having an outside chance. Not Haworth’s year, unfortunately. Izzy and Bergen have almost opposite strengths - Izzy’s location and offense are really strong and she’s great at getting the most she can out of her dominant hitters. Bergen spreads the offense around way more, seems a bit more deceptive based on the eye test, and is better defensively. I think she’s tried to be too crafty at times this year, and it’s hurt her pure setting. Interested to see what the committee prefers. Bergen has higher a/s, d/s, SA/s, and NE is hitting at a higher clip than PSU…by 0.01. Izzy has more b/s, seems more consistent location-wise. Bergen also has way better passers, and that’s a huge factor. I could see them splitting the difference and giving Starck FOY and Bergen SOY, but would not be surprised to see Starck take both. Hanson definitely warrants consideration, and I debated having her in over Mruzik. The tiebreaker was just that Minnesota’s had too many lapses in conference play this year to give her the edge over Mruzik. If I was solely picking Liberos, I’d go with Lexi, Hornung, and Iosia (in spite of MSU’s season). As much as I’d love to see Colvin win, it’s Lexi’s to lose. For freshman, we’ll see how Penn State plays down the stretch. Starck got a lot of fanfare early on, but Penn State’s had some head scratching results recently, and if they go 0-2 against Nebraska and Purdue, I could see the race opening up. Philpot was my first out for freshman. Hunt’s stats are just slightly better, but Philpot certainly has a case for consideration. Setter is very open, and I’m very glad we’re back in an era of dominant Big 10 setters. Anderson was my first out for this list, but she’s had a very good season. Shaffmaster and Tuaniga are superb, but both Minnesota and USC have had too many lapses in conference playin my book. Although Philpot's stats are on the rise, and Julia's are dropping (thanks to the 5-1 and them trying to run her on the slide when she's beat on the quicks). |
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Post by maigrey on Nov 18, 2024 19:59:31 GMT -5
It's like Purdue moved to the Pac-2 or something. |
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 18, 2024 20:04:24 GMT -5
It's like Purdue moved to the Pac-2 or something. sad part is it isn't just Purdue that's getting snubbed that bothers me 😭 |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 18, 2024 20:39:34 GMT -5
quit looking at records and look at RPI - UCLA at 61 is such a very very long shot - they would almost have to jump 20 spots - Michigan has no shot at 91 Some teams have gotten in 2 of the last 3 years with RPI’s in the 52-56 range, it’s not unheard of, and some of the teams that got in with that RPI didn’t have profiles that different from UCLA. You are right re: Michigan. UCLA is unlikely, but by no means are they out of this just yet. Every teams RPI potential is different at this point. For example, Purdue has a ton of upside in RPI if they win. They had a backloaded schedule in terms of W/L records/opponents. How many of these in the 52-56 were coming from the 60s/70s though? Aren't the mid-50s teams that were in the 40s/low 50s in pre-Thanksgiving RPI. UCLA will be in the situation USC was a couple of years ago (never forget Brown!). |
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