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Post by n00b on Apr 6, 2024 20:16:20 GMT -5
Why is the line crooked...
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Post by bored hater on Apr 6, 2024 20:17:40 GMT -5
can someone get a screenshot of that line?
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Post by vnv21 on Apr 6, 2024 20:21:19 GMT -5
I haven’t been watching but it feels like some of these sets in a good first pass should be going to caffey instead of scully
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Post by fightingminime on Apr 6, 2024 20:22:00 GMT -5
I haven’t been watching but it feels like some of these sets in a good first pass should be going to caffey instead of scully Some? Or all? |
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Post by vnv21 on Apr 6, 2024 20:23:46 GMT -5
has skylar played??
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Post by n00b on Apr 6, 2024 20:23:49 GMT -5
can someone get a screenshot of that line?  |
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Post by bored hater on Apr 6, 2024 20:24:52 GMT -5
can someone get a screenshot of that line? i have several questions.... |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 6, 2024 20:25:03 GMT -5
Bolt6 is supersus lol
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Post by toomuchvb on Apr 6, 2024 20:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by Disc808 on Apr 6, 2024 20:27:36 GMT -5
I’ve been saying this lol. What is the challenge of adding in the real time view of the ball? Speraw called out how there’s not been a lot of conversations about the new tech last summer. |
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Post by genisvel on Apr 6, 2024 20:49:06 GMT -5
i have several questions.... Bolt6 can't control itself in Beer City. |
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Post by agean09 on Apr 6, 2024 21:18:15 GMT -5
Will we be able to watch these CBS matches on replay somewhere?
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Post by larry on Apr 6, 2024 21:21:51 GMT -5
As I have noted more than once in stories for Volleyball Magazine, CBS Sports Network is a third-tier cable channel. But this is the channel that the PVF was able to land for national TV. The reality is that the presentation I am watching today on CBSSN is light-years better than what I have seen on the PVF's YouTube Channel. Nor that even if this telecast reaches only a total-average viewership of 20,000, that would represent roughly 4-5 times more (conservatively) than what the typical PVF match on YouTube generates in "live views." Not to mention that the people tuning in on CBBSN likely are not the same few thousand who catch matches on YouTube. Also, it's your choice not to subscribe to a cable package that includes CBSSN, unless it simply is not offered as an option by your cable service. On my RCN distributor in Chicago, CBBSN is available. What are your thoughts on the media deal options/possibilities for LOVB and/or PVF going forward? Media deal? So you believe that a national TV entity will actually PAY the PVF or LOVB to air its matches? That's likely is a non-starter. The PVF almost certainly has a "time buy" agreement with CBS Sports. Off the minuscule "live view" numbers I have logged for every PVF match in its inaugural season, that league has zero possibility of getting a paid deal next season ... unless the viewership on CBBSN (which does not subscribe to the Nielsen survey) proves far better. LOVB is a pig in a poke. Not only will a tiny audience for women's pro volleyball be split next season because of the rival leagues, LOVB has no baseline for TV people to analyze. If LOVB is smart, it will pony up whatever the cost is to buy time on ESPN to have a few matches on ESPNU and the rest on ESPN+ ... if ESPN wants the league, which is hardly a given. Can't emphasize more how the TV ratings we saw last season for NCAA women's volleyball mean virtually nothing when it comes to linear cable TV exposure for the new pro leagues. |
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 6, 2024 21:52:58 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on the media deal options/possibilities for LOVB and/or PVF going forward? Media deal? So you believe that a national TV entity will actually PAY the PVF or LOVB to air its matches? That's likely is a non-starter. The PVF almost certainly has a "time buy" agreement with CBS Sports. Off the minuscule "live view" numbers I have logged for every PVF match in its inaugural season, that league has zero possibility of getting a paid deal next season ... unless the viewership on CBBSN (which does not subscribe to the Nielsen survey) proves far better. LOVB is a pig in a poke. Not only will a tiny audience for women's pro volleyball be split next season because of the rival leagues, LOVB has no baseline for TV people to analyze. If LOVB is smart, it will pony up whatever the cost is to buy time on ESPN to have a few matches on ESPNU and the rest on ESPN+ ... if ESPN wants the league, which is hardly a given. Can't emphasize more how the TV ratings we saw last season for NCAA women's volleyball mean virtually nothing when it comes to linear cable TV exposure for the new pro leagues. Thank you. I understood that to be a likely response based on your previous comments. On the other hand, US audiences aren't particulary keen on soccer or women's basketball (or maybe not even tennis in general), but they have garnered increased exposure incrementally. Was just curious if you saw a particular path forward. |
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Post by larry on Apr 6, 2024 22:54:58 GMT -5
Media deal? So you believe that a national TV entity will actually PAY the PVF or LOVB to air its matches? That's likely is a non-starter. The PVF almost certainly has a "time buy" agreement with CBS Sports. Off the minuscule "live view" numbers I have logged for every PVF match in its inaugural season, that league has zero possibility of getting a paid deal next season ... unless the viewership on CBBSN (which does not subscribe to the Nielsen survey) proves far better. LOVB is a pig in a poke. Not only will a tiny audience for women's pro volleyball be split next season because of the rival leagues, LOVB has no baseline for TV people to analyze. If LOVB is smart, it will pony up whatever the cost is to buy time on ESPN to have a few matches on ESPNU and the rest on ESPN+ ... if ESPN wants the league, which is hardly a given. Can't emphasize more how the TV ratings we saw last season for NCAA women's volleyball mean virtually nothing when it comes to linear cable TV exposure for the new pro leagues. Thank you. I understood that to be a likely response based on your previous comments. On the other hand, US audiences aren't particulary keen on soccer or women's basketball (or maybe not even tennis in general), but they have garnered increased exposure incrementally. Was just curious if you saw a particular path forward. The ratings advances we have seen over the last couple of year for NCAA women's volleyball and even the NCAA beach championships have been noteworthy. The people who run TV are well-aware of them. We just saw ESPN give the NCAA nearly triple the rights fees for an eight-year deal for the championships in 40 Olympic sports (including women's college basketball). Just with what might transpire with women's basketball and women's volleyball, that increase could prove to be an incredible bargain for ESPN because it is obligated to pay $115 million annually. When I look at women's NCAA volleyball, I see a lot of heavily invested viewers in specific college programs (such as Nebraska and Wisconsin), but the viewerships for matches involving, for example, two random SEC or Big 12 teams aired on ESPN are OK, but not enough to make a huge difference in the big picture, particularly when the cable network has to battle yearly losses of subscribers and thus a commensurate erosion of viewers that lowers what it can charge for ads. The increase in viewership for women's NCAA volleyball has been a process and the TV partners have been key factors in that growth. But NCAA women's volleyball involves more than 300 schools spread across the country in markets large and small, all of which have fans that might care enough to tune into the NCAA Tournament in the final rounds. The PVF has seven markets, with Atlanta as the largest, and has little geographic distribution. Ten are scheduled for 2025, but adding Dallas, Indianapolis and Kansas City won't significantly change that dynamic, and that's assuming that all of the 2024 teams come back for a second year. LOVB will have six teams to start and also does not hit the key markets of New York, Los Angeles or Chicago. In a landscape of declining revenues on linear cable fostered by cord-cutting, what network would want to go out on a limb for either of the two women's pro volleyball leagues? A more realistic strategy for the networks would be to offer the leagues a "time buy" with the option for them to sell adds, and once the leagues had demonstrated it had an audience, pay them enough to help defray production costs. It's all a process. Bottom line: The leagues would be best-served to figure out how to break even on ticket revenue and local sponsorships while holding down players salaries until they has a track record of ratings success that might tempt a TV partner to pay more its matches than they cost to produce. |
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