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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 24, 2024 13:39:43 GMT -5
I’ll wait for their return. Definitely better than what you have to offer. Two simple questions you refuse to answer. Why did Trump refuse to call in the National Guard for 3 hours after the violence on Jan 6 began? Why did Trump send out an inflammatory tweet about his VP to a crowd chanting "hang Mike Pence?" You have time to send out silly retorts? Why not answer a couple of direct questions? You never answered my direct question. Do you think Trump had a secret communication via tweet, solely to those people?
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 13:41:41 GMT -5
Two simple questions you refuse to answer. Why did Trump refuse to call in the National Guard for 3 hours after the violence on Jan 6 began? Why did Trump send out an inflammatory tweet about his VP to a crowd chanting "hang Mike Pence?" You have time to send out silly retorts? Why not answer a couple of direct questions? You never answered my direct question. Do you think Trump had a secret communication via tweet, solely to those people? Of course not. Why would he have to? Do you think Trump wasn't tweeting to that crowd?
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 13:44:02 GMT -5
Two simple questions you refuse to answer. Why did Trump refuse to call in the National Guard for 3 hours after the violence on Jan 6 began? Why did Trump send out an inflammatory tweet about his VP to a crowd chanting "hang Mike Pence?" You have time to send out silly retorts? Why not answer a couple of direct questions? You never answered my direct question. Do you think Trump had a secret communication via tweet, solely to those people?
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 24, 2024 13:44:53 GMT -5
You never answered my direct question. Do you think Trump had a secret communication via tweet, solely to those people? Of course not. Why would he have to? Do you think Trump wasn't tweeting to that crowd? Regardless of who he was tweeting to, you ignore that the majority of those tweeted to had no intention or desire to hang Pence. I’m even going to say that those who were chanting “Hang Pence” were, for the most part, full of hot air and wouldn’t have done anything if presented with the actual opportunity.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on May 24, 2024 13:47:34 GMT -5
This is so comical of a response that a 1000 rolled eyes and a 1000 oh-brothers wouldn't mollify it. American't you really ought go back to the drawing board on this one. Ah that's what's been missing... the rantings musings of a boob. Thanks for your contribution. The fact that it gets lost on you that this was part of a massive attempt to overturn the election results pretty much proves what a pee brain you have. You moronically mention a guy sitting in Pelosi's desk but leave out the part about obstructing Pence from administering the transition of power. Absolutely outstanding lack of understanding of the value of a democracy and how it works.
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 13:47:58 GMT -5
Of course not. Why would he have to? Do you think Trump wasn't tweeting to that crowd? Regardless of who he was tweeting to, you ignore that the majority of those tweeted to had no intention or desire to hang Pence. I’m even going to say that those who were chanting “Hang Pence” were, for the most part, full of hot air and wouldn’t have done anything if presented with the actual opportunity. Of course the majority of those who received that tweet had not intention of hanging Mike Pence. So what? The message was directed at those doing the chanting., most of those who received that tweet did not intend to hang
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 13:51:03 GMT -5
Two simple questions you refuse to answer. Why did Trump refuse to call in the National Guard for 3 hours after the violence on Jan 6 began? Why did Trump send out an inflammatory tweet about his VP to a crowd chanting "hang Mike Pence?" You have time to send out silly retorts? Why not answer a couple of direct questions? You never answered my direct question. Do you think Trump had a secret communication via tweet, solely to those people?
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 13:56:02 GMT -5
Two simple questions you refuse to answer. Why did Trump refuse to call in the National Guard for 3 hours after the violence on Jan 6 began? Why did Trump send out an inflammatory tweet about his VP to a crowd chanting "hang Mike Pence?" You have time to send out silly retorts? Why not answer a couple of direct questions? You never answered my direct question. Do you think Trump had a secret communication via tweet, solely to those people?
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Post by aardvark on May 24, 2024 15:25:42 GMT -5
There were so many worst impulses! I became numb to the onslaught of nonsense he was delivering. You can google "President Trump's worst offenses" for an article by CREW. Honestly, after a while, I shut down on it. I just decided he was unworthy to hold the office no matter what. His weakness of character transcends politics. The one person shot to death was at the head of a mob. There are well known videos of the scene. This was all done relatively impromptu, and they still managed to delay the certification vote. Now, imagine the difference if Trump has four years to prepare. If he gets his butt back in the Oval Office, do you really think he will give it up? As long as he and his followers keep ahold of power, they won't be held accountable. He will stock every position in government with his people to use and keep that power. His next VP won't get the job unless (s)he promises to do Trump's bidding all the way. The next mob will have better planning and arsenal. The capital defense was flimsy, and wouldn't be any stronger in 2028 with Trump in charge. Your slightly paranoid fears aside. If Trump were to lose the election and manage "take the White House or the Capitol", what do you think the elected President's response would be? You know, the guy who is Commander in Chief? The events of Jan 6th occurred two weeks before Biden is scheduled to assume the Presidency. He is not commander in chief until then. Trump has shown his intent publicly enough for me to confidently say I'm not paranoid about this. There's already an effort underway (by the Heritage Foundation) to identify Trump's "army" (20K in number) of government workers he wishes to use to gain more control over the various departments.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 24, 2024 15:50:19 GMT -5
Your slightly paranoid fears aside. If Trump were to lose the election and manage "take the White House or the Capitol", what do you think the elected President's response would be? You know, the guy who is Commander in Chief? The events of Jan 6th occurred two weeks before Biden is scheduled to assume the Presidency. He is not commander in chief until then. Trump has shown his intent publicly enough for me to confidently say I'm not paranoid about this. There's already an effort underway (by the Heritage Foundation) to identify Trump's "army" (20K in number) of government workers he wishes to use to gain more control over the various departments. I obviously can't convince you of otherwise, but this still comes across to me as the same paranoia that people had when they thought Trump was going to press the button and release the nukes if he lost. The same person who is thought of as an "orange moron" now has the ability cement his position in power and go against hundreds of years of rule and constitutional law? I doubt it, but I guess we'll see what pans out.
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 16:07:55 GMT -5
The events of Jan 6th occurred two weeks before Biden is scheduled to assume the Presidency. He is not commander in chief until then. Trump has shown his intent publicly enough for me to confidently say I'm not paranoid about this. There's already an effort underway (by the Heritage Foundation) to identify Trump's "army" (20K in number) of government workers he wishes to use to gain more control over the various departments. I obviously can't convince you of otherwise, but this still comes across to me as the same paranoia that people had when they thought Trump was going to press the button and release the nukes if he lost. The same person who is thought of as an "orange moron" now has the ability cement his position in power and go against hundreds of years of rule and constitutional law? I doubt it, but I guess we'll see what pans out. You either refuse or are incapable of understanding what Trump is doing right now to make sure the next coup is successful. Look at who he is surrounding himself with.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on May 24, 2024 16:11:26 GMT -5
Trump had no provocation to push a button. With the gift of Ukraine to Putin, love letters to and from Kim Jong Un and Ivanka having free reign to do business in China was there anything going on that was pushing his buttons?
Let's see, about being paranoid about the election. What Trump and his chronies are capable of.
1) encouraged state officials to throw out legally cast ballots 2) challenge vote-certification processes 3) overturn certified election results 4) pressed the Georgia secretary of state to "find" the 11,780 votes 5) encourage a mob to interfer with Pences duties 6) created fraudulent electoral certificates of ascertainment 7) threaten election workers 8) request the confiscation of voting machines by the military 9) inaction in refuting election conspiracy theories 10) inaction in calling the national guard to protect the transfer of power
Oh no, nothing to be paranoid about here.
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Post by jsquare on May 24, 2024 16:15:22 GMT -5
The events of Jan 6th occurred two weeks before Biden is scheduled to assume the Presidency. He is not commander in chief until then. Trump has shown his intent publicly enough for me to confidently say I'm not paranoid about this. There's already an effort underway (by the Heritage Foundation) to identify Trump's "army" (20K in number) of government workers he wishes to use to gain more control over the various departments. I obviously can't convince you of otherwise, but this still comes across to me as the same paranoia that people had when they thought Trump was going to press the button and release the nukes if he lost. The same person who is thought of as an "orange moron" now has the ability cement his position in power and go against hundreds of years of rule and constitutional law? I doubt it, but I guess we'll see what pans out. Conservative groups draw up plan to dismantle the US government and replace it with Trump’s vision apnews.com/article/election-2024-conservatives-trump-heritage-857eb794e505f1c6710eb03fd5b58981
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 24, 2024 16:17:28 GMT -5
Trump had no provocation to push a button. With the gift of Ukraine to Putin, love letters to and from Kim Jong Un and Ivanka having free reign to do business in China was there anything going on that was pushing his buttons? Let's see, about being paranoid about the election. What Trump and his chronies are capable of. 1) encouraged state officials to throw out legally cast ballots 2) challenge vote-certification processes 3) overturn certified election results 4) pressed the Georgia secretary of state to "find" the 11,780 votes 5) encourage a mob to interfer with Pences duties 6) created fraudulent electoral certificates of ascertainment 7) threaten election workers 8) request the confiscation of voting machines by the military 9) inaction in refuting election conspiracy theories 10) inaction in calling the national guard to protect the transfer of power Oh no, nothing to be paranoid about here. And what has this Top ten list of yours benefitted them? That same bunch of nothing.
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Post by blue-footedbooby on May 24, 2024 16:23:46 GMT -5
Trump had no provocation to push a button. With the gift of Ukraine to Putin, love letters to and from Kim Jong Un and Ivanka having free reign to do business in China was there anything going on that was pushing his buttons? Let's see, about being paranoid about the election. What Trump and his chronies are capable of. 1) encouraged state officials to throw out legally cast ballots 2) challenge vote-certification processes 3) overturn certified election results 4) pressed the Georgia secretary of state to "find" the 11,780 votes 5) encourage a mob to interfer with Pences duties 6) created fraudulent electoral certificates of ascertainment 7) threaten election workers 8) request the confiscation of voting machines by the military 9) inaction in refuting election conspiracy theories 10) inaction in calling the national guard to protect the transfer of power Oh no, nothing to be paranoid about here. And what has this Top ten list of yours benefitted them? That same bunch of nothing. You don't find the fact that him and his chronies pulling such stunts troubling and indicative of what he might try a 2nd time around? You scare me dude.
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