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Post by eyeroll2021 on Apr 12, 2024 11:21:54 GMT -5
she's got more NIL money than most of us will see, maybe ever. her charges aren't detrimental. To me, that's a slap on the wrist for her besides the embarrassment from the public. We all know she's not going to get benched or suspended over this. How in the world would you know how much NIL money she is receiving? We need to see if she floats. That's the first step. And if she floats, THEN we burn her at the stake All kidding aside, it's not a witch hunt if she did it. There doesn't seem to be any argument on the facts, only the severity and appropriate punishments
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 12, 2024 11:32:22 GMT -5
she's got more NIL money than most of us will see, maybe ever. her charges aren't detrimental. To me, that's a slap on the wrist for her besides the embarrassment from the public. We all know she's not going to get benched or suspended over this. How in the world would you know how much NIL money she is receiving? We need to see if she floats. That's the first step. On3 valuations, baby.
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Post by papiovalley on Apr 12, 2024 12:01:23 GMT -5
We are talking about a 19 year old who made a series of bad decisions. I don't believing in destroying a young person who makes some really bad immature decisions. Now if she keeps repeating them then we have a bigger issue. It is the Universities duty to help not destroy students.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 12, 2024 12:04:57 GMT -5
How in the world would you know how much NIL money she is receiving? We need to see if she floats. That's the first step. And if she floats, THEN we burn her at the stake All kidding aside, it's not a witch hunt if she did it. There doesn't seem to be any argument on the facts, only the severity and appropriate punishments My point would be we don’t need to know what kind of punishments she receives except what the criminal justice system releases. People want an outward facing punishment so they can feel satisfied justice was done, but they’re not entitled to one. Did Micaya White get a suspension for her DUI? I don’t remember, but I do remember feeling like it would be handled appropriately regardless. A Texas football player was just kicked off the team for being invlolved in Sweat’s recent DUI. Now, I happen to know some details about that one, but that’s because football has 7 billion insiders while the volleyball program is a black box. I don’t feel entitled to know the circumstances. People get to have their opinions, and they certainly do, but the idea that Murray is going to get off easily unless we know for certain what penalties she has to endure as a volleyball player at Nebraska is simply not true. She’s going to have to face the legal system just like everyone else. She’s going to have to deal with the fallout and judgement from everyone around her. She’ll have to make some sort of amends to her teammates. Perhaps most importantly, you only get to be a first offender one time. Whatever happens to her over this incident, it will be much much worse if it happens again. That’s not nothing, whether she faces a suspension or not.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 12, 2024 12:06:26 GMT -5
How in the world would you know how much NIL money she is receiving? We need to see if she floats. That's the first step. On3 valuations, baby. That’s hilarious. Well done, sir.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 12, 2024 12:09:45 GMT -5
How in the world would you know how much NIL money she is receiving? We need to see if she floats. That's the first step. let's not play dumb here now, NIL is POPPING for the Nebraska girls. Who is playing dumb? What is popping? I know Texas football players making over $1 million per year. Quinn Ewers just signed a deal with a private jet company where he’s extolling how good their service is. Nobody at Nebraska volleyball is making that kind of money. How much money do you think they’re making, and what justification do you have for it?
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Post by SportyBucky on Apr 12, 2024 12:10:20 GMT -5
We are talking about a 19 year old who made a series of bad decisions. I don't believing in destroying a young person who makes some really bad immature decisions. Now if she keeps repeating them then we have a bigger issue. It is the Universities duty to help not destroy students. Okay. Whatever "you believe" goes.
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Post by stanfordvb on Apr 12, 2024 12:36:03 GMT -5
'Handled quietly with a tap on the wrist' plus the formal, legal consequences she received and news reports about it. I still haven't seen a good response as to why harper deserves more consequences than what everyone else would get she's got more NIL money than most of us will see, maybe ever. her charges aren't detrimental. To me, that's a slap on the wrist for her besides the embarrassment from the public. We all know she's not going to get benched or suspended over this. The amount of money she makes is now a reason why she should get more punishment? you're not actually serious right... or were you just randomly decide to point out that she makes money through NIL as a fun fact about her? You're also very misinformed in you think she's making more than most of us will see in our lives If you personally got charged for a DUI, possession of a fake, and obstruction would you feel like you were given a slap on the wrist? Genuinely asking
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Apr 12, 2024 12:41:00 GMT -5
And if she floats, THEN we burn her at the stake All kidding aside, it's not a witch hunt if she did it. There doesn't seem to be any argument on the facts, only the severity and appropriate punishments My point would be we don’t need to know what kind of punishments she receives except what the criminal justice system releases. People want an outward facing punishment so they can feel satisfied justice was done, but they’re not entitled to one. Did Micaya White get a suspension for her DUI? I don’t remember, but I do remember feeling like it would be handled appropriately regardless. A Texas football player was just kicked off the team for being invlolved in Sweat’s recent DUI. Now, I happen to know some details about that one, but that’s because football has 7 billion insiders while the volleyball program is a black box. I don’t feel entitled to know the circumstances. People get to have their opinions, and they certainly do, but the idea that Murray is going to get off easily unless we know for certain what penalties she has to endure as a volleyball player at Nebraska is simply not true. She’s going to have to face the legal system just like everyone else. She’s going to have to deal with the fallout and judgement from everyone around her. She’ll have to make some sort of amends to her teammates. Perhaps most importantly, you only get to be a first offender one time. Whatever happens to her over this incident, it will be much much worse if it happens again. That’s not nothing, whether she faces a suspension or not. I feel like people who are carping on differences in punishments between different schools are wasting their breath. It's not special treatment, it's a different system. In the same way that Nebraska state laws (and penalties) for a DUI might differ from Texas state laws. It's an internal matter for the school. Now if she gets off easier than another SA at Nebraska (i.e. a bench player or a someone in a different sport), that would be special treatment
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Post by rjaege on Apr 12, 2024 13:05:51 GMT -5
'Handled quietly with a tap on the wrist' plus the formal, legal consequences she received and news reports about it. I still haven't seen a good response as to why harper deserves more consequences than what everyone else would get she's got more NIL money than most of us will see, maybe ever. her charges aren't detrimental. To me, that's a slap on the wrist for her besides the embarrassment from the public. We all know she's not going to get benched or suspended over this. Appears you are jealous of her for being more successful than you. IF she currently has more $$ than you will ever see, you have a lot of people to be jealous of. Or possibly you are a WI Badger fan that hates NE. She will answer to the NE legal system. That will be the same as any other 19 yr old first time offender. Lincoln has a long history of not giving Husker athletes special treatment. She will also answer to the coaches and more importantly her teammates. Murray and all NE WVB players have high expectations for themselves and their teammates. Her actions negatively impacted that and she will need to address that.
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Post by lovebugsm on Apr 12, 2024 13:50:59 GMT -5
I mean I coach HS vb in Minnesota and when an assistant coach got one she had to sit out two weeks of games. She could still coach practice. If she had to do it, Murray should get something like that. Regular season. She is not a coach, nor a HS coach. Well aware of that. Kids in HS have suspensions so when the coach got in trouble it was the expectation that if a kid has to sit out for getting in trouble a coach should has well. That is more my point with it. I’m guessing there is some predetermined consequences if a student athlete gets a DUI/legal trouble. IMO it will be similar to a HS situation where they would have to sit out 2 weeks.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 12, 2024 13:53:51 GMT -5
My point would be we don’t need to know what kind of punishments she receives except what the criminal justice system releases. People want an outward facing punishment so they can feel satisfied justice was done, but they’re not entitled to one. Did Micaya White get a suspension for her DUI? I don’t remember, but I do remember feeling like it would be handled appropriately regardless. A Texas football player was just kicked off the team for being invlolved in Sweat’s recent DUI. Now, I happen to know some details about that one, but that’s because football has 7 billion insiders while the volleyball program is a black box. I don’t feel entitled to know the circumstances. People get to have their opinions, and they certainly do, but the idea that Murray is going to get off easily unless we know for certain what penalties she has to endure as a volleyball player at Nebraska is simply not true. She’s going to have to face the legal system just like everyone else. She’s going to have to deal with the fallout and judgement from everyone around her. She’ll have to make some sort of amends to her teammates. Perhaps most importantly, you only get to be a first offender one time. Whatever happens to her over this incident, it will be much much worse if it happens again. That’s not nothing, whether she faces a suspension or not. I feel like people who are carping on differences in punishments between different schools are wasting their breath. It's not special treatment, it's a different system. In the same way that Nebraska state laws (and penalties) for a DUI might differ from Texas state laws. It's an internal matter for the school. Now if she gets off easier than another SA at Nebraska (i.e. a bench player or a someone in a different sport), that would be special treatment I’m saying it’s not really any of my business. She’s going to suffer a punishment. Some of it is ongoing. People are determining whether it’s eventually going to be enough to satisfy their sense of justice, not in terms of if she’s an average Joe Schmoe who just received their first DUI, but as a star volleyball player for the sport they love, and in some cases the team they follow. There’s a sense of entitlement and ownership over the righteousness of the whole episode I don’t agree with. Her punishment will be what it is, and if we never hear of any internal punishment that doesn’t mean she wasn’t punished appropriately. It just means she wasn’t punished by the volleyball program in a publicly accessible way that feels fulfilling for the judgy judgersons around here.
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Post by liberosetter101 on Apr 12, 2024 14:03:36 GMT -5
She’s gained more followers ever since it happened 💀 Make it make sense
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Apr 12, 2024 14:09:05 GMT -5
I feel like people who are carping on differences in punishments between different schools are wasting their breath. It's not special treatment, it's a different system. In the same way that Nebraska state laws (and penalties) for a DUI might differ from Texas state laws. It's an internal matter for the school. Now if she gets off easier than another SA at Nebraska (i.e. a bench player or a someone in a different sport), that would be special treatment I’m saying it’s not really any of my business. She’s going to suffer a punishment. Some of it is ongoing. People are determining whether it’s eventually going to be enough to satisfy their sense of justice, not in terms of if she’s an average Joe Schmoe who just received their first DUI, but as a star volleyball player for the sport they love, and in some cases the team they follow. There’s a sense of entitlement and ownership over the righteousness of the whole episode I don’t agree with. Her punishment will be what it is, and if we never hear of any internal punishment that doesn’t mean she wasn’t punished appropriately. It just means she wasn’t punished by the volleyball program in a publicly accessible way that feels fulfilling for the judgy judgersons around here. Oh definitely agree, there's a lot of Team Homer v. Team Schadenfreude here, by virtue of the fact that she's a star athlete at Nebraska. Identical fact pattern for a player at a non-top 10 team might have warranted a mention on a team thread. Outside of the top 20 teams, no one would have cared in the slightest. But no way would it have gotten its own thread and 32 pages.
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Post by rjaege on Apr 12, 2024 14:25:04 GMT -5
She is not a coach, nor a HS coach. Well aware of that. Kids in HS have suspensions so when the coach got in trouble it was the expectation that if a kid has to sit out for getting in trouble a coach should has well. That is more my point with it. I’m guessing there is some predetermined consequences if a student athlete gets a DUI/legal trouble. IMO it will be similar to a HS situation where they would have to sit out 2 weeks. She is no longer in HS. College is a lot different from HS. Students are treated much differently. A non student athlete is not removed or suspended from classes due to one DUI. It appears many have different expectations for SA's.
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