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Post by VolleyBurg96 on Apr 21, 2024 14:46:23 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters.
Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions…
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 21, 2024 16:05:40 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… Social media and message boards are toxic, for sure. Dealing with that is part of the deal when you're a relatively famous and relatively well-compensated athlete and you have a huge f*ck up.
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Post by n00b on Apr 21, 2024 16:31:09 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… Just checked her recent social media posts. I'm not seeing this "absolute digging". Just dozens of comments praising her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2024 18:26:06 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… Just checked her recent social media posts. I'm not seeing this "absolute digging". Just dozens of comments praising her. her comments are turned off babes
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 21, 2024 18:45:15 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… It’s unfortunate but it’s what she signed up for. She’s also had hundreds of absolute strangers falling all over her with praise, this is the other side of that coin.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2024 4:57:29 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… It’s unfortunate but it’s what she signed up for. She’s also had hundreds of absolute strangers falling all over her with praise, this is the other side of that coin. Yup. She signed up to be a public figure. She signed those NIL deals. Once you are a public figure, you also get the public scrutiny.
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Post by Norah Sus on Apr 22, 2024 10:48:07 GMT -5
The best thing that could ever happen would be if HOLIDAY refused to watch or post about Nebraska going forward. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
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Post by aardvark on Apr 22, 2024 10:55:09 GMT -5
The best thing that could ever happen would be if HOLIDAY refused to watch or post about Nebraska going forward. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 Such a dreamer you are!
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Post by slxpress on Apr 22, 2024 11:48:20 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… Social media and message boards are toxic, for sure. Dealing with that is part of the deal when you're a relatively famous and relatively well-compensated athlete and you have a huge f*ck up. To be fair, it doesn't even have to be about being relatively famous and relatively well compensated. Being a part of modern life means at any point in time any of us can be dealing with the consequences of going viral on social media. It's inescapable. I happen to find it abhorrent, but as a society we collectively signed up for this, so here we are. I will say I find the willingness to justify our collective mob mentality a little frightening. Like someone has earned this behavior by being relatively famous and relatively well compensated. We're human. We've all got a little vigilante in us. I do. It doesn't mean we have to lean into it, though.
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 22, 2024 12:48:35 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… That is an entirely fair point of view. There are no immediate victims here so you focus on the offender - entirely fair. However, I wonder about kids who see all the love and support and mistake that for forgiveness or tolerance. I wonder if a lack of tolerance and support here could ultimately save lives somewhere down the line. Is there a line where strangers can support her while making it 100% clear to the young eyes that are watching that what she did is impermissible? I'm not sure.
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Post by rjaege on Apr 22, 2024 13:03:56 GMT -5
Most of you won’t care about this, based on the jersey she wears but regardless it’s got to be said. Looking at her social medias seeing strangers absolutely digging at her is appalling.It's disheartening to see the backlash against a 19-year-old college student athlete who made a mistake by driving under the influence. While the incident is serious and the consequences should not be ignored, it's crucial to remember that we are all human and capable of making errors in judgment. Harper, at 19 is at a pivotal stage in her life, navigating the challenges of college and sports while also learning important life lessons following some serious life obstacles (death of her father and being attacked relentlessly for Natty comments). Instead of condemning her for a single mistake, why not focus on offering support, guidance, and understanding as she works to make amends and grow from this experience. It's important to recognize that young adults, especially college students, are still developing emotionally and mentally. They are bound to make mistakes along the way, but it is how they learn from these mistakes that truly matters. Like many others here, I have lost a close friend and my aunt to a DUI driver. It hurts and I’m not telling anyone how they should grieve. My family chose to forgive at the end of the day and use the platform to spread why it’s important to not drive. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, and as long as they learn from a crappy situation, it’s important to recognize that growth while not excusing the actions… That is an entirely fair point of view. There are no immediate victims here so you focus on the offender - entirely fair. However, I wonder about kids who see all the love and support and mistake that for forgiveness or tolerance. I wonder if a lack of tolerance and support here could ultimately save lives somewhere down the line. Is there a line where strangers can support her while making it 100% clear to the young eyes that are watching that what she did is impermissible? I'm not sure. A willingness to forgive and move on is not support. She will face her legal consequences like anyone else. That's how Lincoln/Lancaster County works, UNL athletes don't get any special privileges that I've seen. Rich and politically connected: yes, for sure. UNL athletes: no. As far as support, I've not seen that. Is calling for team displinary action to remain private support? NO. Is objecting to team suspensions being recommended by outside parties, support? NO. IMO she should be treated like any other student/SA at UNL. That is not support, nor is it excusing her DUI.
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 22, 2024 13:22:28 GMT -5
That is an entirely fair point of view. There are no immediate victims here so you focus on the offender - entirely fair. However, I wonder about kids who see all the love and support and mistake that for forgiveness or tolerance. I wonder if a lack of tolerance and support here could ultimately save lives somewhere down the line. Is there a line where strangers can support her while making it 100% clear to the young eyes that are watching that what she did is impermissible? I'm not sure. A willingness to forgive and move on is not support. She will face her legal consequences like anyone else. That's how Lincoln/Lancaster County works, UNL athletes don't get any special privileges that I've seen. Rich and politically connected: yes, for sure. UNL athletes: no. As far as support, I've not seen that. Is calling for team displinary action to remain private support? NO. Is objecting to team suspensions being recommended by outside parties, support? NO. IMO she should be treated like any other student/SA at UNL. That is not support, nor is it excusing her DUI. I can only imagine the reaction of the Nebraska faithful if it were Madi Skinner in the same position instead of Harper Murray. Actually, I don't need to imagine it because the reaction would have been as predictable as the fact that John Cook would not do anything to affect Harper's position with the team. Of course, none of these reactions change the basic issue at hand regarding a DUI and what the appropriate response is.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 22, 2024 13:43:25 GMT -5
A willingness to forgive and move on is not support. She will face her legal consequences like anyone else. That's how Lincoln/Lancaster County works, UNL athletes don't get any special privileges that I've seen. Rich and politically connected: yes, for sure. UNL athletes: no. As far as support, I've not seen that. Is calling for team displinary action to remain private support? NO. Is objecting to team suspensions being recommended by outside parties, support? NO. IMO she should be treated like any other student/SA at UNL. That is not support, nor is it excusing her DUI. I can only imagine the reaction of the Nebraska faithful if it were Madi Skinner in the same position instead of Harper Murray. Actually, I don't need to imagine it because the reaction would have been as predictable as the fact that John Cook would not do anything to affect Harper's position with the team. Of course, none of these reactions change the basic issue at hand regarding a DUI and what the appropriate response is. That’s not completely fair. Some of the harshest reactions are from militant Nebraska fans who are going full Red Queen over this. I’ll also say that from my perspective this is all relatively mild. I’m used to discussing domestic assault, sexual abuse, murder, accesssory to murder, and various other crimes in college football and men’s basketball. And the reactions are more vicious and voluble than what I see here. I was with a bunch of girls at a div I program in a different sport and they were all talking about Murray and what a bad mistake it was. They weren’t talking about how badly she should be punished. They were simply saying how she made a bad decision and they need to make sure they don’t make a similar one. I feel like a lesson is being taught already. Compared to football and men’s basketball it’s nice to follow a sport where getting a DUI is going to be one of the most controversial encounters with law enforcement for the year.
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 22, 2024 13:46:04 GMT -5
I can only imagine the reaction of the Nebraska faithful if it were Madi Skinner in the same position instead of Harper Murray. Actually, I don't need to imagine it because the reaction would have been as predictable as the fact that John Cook would not do anything to affect Harper's position with the team. Of course, none of these reactions change the basic issue at hand regarding a DUI and what the appropriate response is. That’s not completely fair. Some of the harshest reactions are from militant Nebraska fans who are going full Red Queen over this. I’ll also say that from my perspective this is all relatively mild. I’m used to discussing domestic assault, sexual abuse, murder, accesssory to murder, and various other crimes in college football and men’s basketball. And the reactions are more vicious and voluble than what I see here. I was with a bunch of girls at a div I program in a different sport and they were all talking about Murray and what a bad mistake it was. They weren’t talking about how badly she should be punished. They were simply saying how she made a bad decision and they need to make sure they don’t make a similar one. I feel like a lesson is being taught already. Compared to football and men’s basketball it’s nice to follow a sport where getting a DUI is going to be one of the most controversial encounters with law enforcement for the year. I wouldn't necessarily describe them as militant Nebraska fans. Most of the visceral reactions seem to be coming from people with personal experience with drunk drivers.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 22, 2024 13:48:32 GMT -5
Compared to football and men’s basketball it’s nice to follow a sport where getting a DUI is going to be one of the most controversial encounters with law enforcement for the year. ... we hope.
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