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Post by whatway2 on May 4, 2024 18:22:34 GMT -5
When I was a freshman the upperclassmen dismissed my offer to drive so they wouldn’t drive drunk, and one of my teammates tried to drive drunk AND high before I took the keys and drove myself(and then they smoked weed in the backseat while I was driving). Drunk people and young adults are both groups known for not always making the best decisions. If you wait until you are drunk to decide whether or not you should drive home, it's too late. You should decide that *before* you start drinking. Either decide not to drink, or decide not to drive home, but make a decision and then stick to it. nowadays it's so easy to just Uber there and back so you don't have to worry about it. Young people are stupid. I never got a DUI but almost got my license revoked from many speeding tickets when I was 19. Did I need to be anywhere fast? No.
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Post by rjaege on May 4, 2024 18:36:08 GMT -5
Coach Cook at the post game presser was asked about HM's status going forward. He said it was out of his hands. Bad things happen in 3's rule may have hit. Was HM in violation of her probationary license by driving to Scheels? Often the probationary provisions are specific and highly limiting,e.g., limited to driving to and from work and picking up essential supplies.
Lancaster County takes DUI and DUI probation violations very seriously.
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Post by hornshouse23 on May 4, 2024 18:38:33 GMT -5
Coach Cook at the post game presser was asked about HM's status going forward. He said it was out of his hands. Bad things happen in 3's rule may have hit. Was HM in violation of her probationary license by driving to Scheels? Often the probationary provisions are specific and highly limiting,e.g., limited to driving to and from work and picking up essential supplies. Lancaster County takes DUI and DUI probation violations very seriously. based on my rough math, it would be too early for her to be on probation or already have her license suspended for the April DUI. That normally takes 60-90 days to accomplish unless a suspended license is triggered automatically in Nebraska.
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Post by coachdavid on May 4, 2024 19:25:21 GMT -5
She is in a position of being a role model. She is acting out with little disregard for some reason. Me thinks it’s narcissism. Not condoning her actions, but athletes, especially at the college level, have no obligation to be a role model, They are role models, whether you think that's good or bad is debatable but to not acknowledge what is is contraproductive. I just don’t understand why? You just made a terrible decision to break the law and put people at risk, but luckily were given the opportunity to learn and grow from it. Then you break the law AGAIN? You have every resource available to you at Nebraska, great NIL, unlimited community support, and athletic talent. It’s just not adding up to me. This has cry for help written all over it, mental health is not giving stable… [RECKLESS SPECULATION BELOW] This feels more like bad friends/new freedom rebellion than anything else. Friends who only latch on for the money/fame and don't care about the person are pretty toxic, and don't give good advice.
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Post by babybacksets on May 4, 2024 19:34:56 GMT -5
Not condoning her actions, but athletes, especially at the college level, have no obligation to be a role model, They are role models, whether you think that's good or bad is debatable but to not acknowledge what is is contraproductive. This has cry for help written all over it, mental health is not giving stable… [RECKLESS SPECULATION BELOW] This feels more like bad friends/new freedom rebellion than anything else. Friends who only latch on for the money/fame and don't care about the person are pretty toxic, and don't give good advice. The Nebraska women’s volleyball team are bad friends. Got it.
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Post by raian13 on May 4, 2024 19:54:00 GMT -5
A definition of dumb is driving DUI and then shoplifting several days later. Periodt.
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Post by curiouskg on May 4, 2024 19:55:27 GMT -5
They are role models, whether you think that's good or bad is debatable but to not acknowledge what is is contraproductive. [RECKLESS SPECULATION BELOW] This feels more like bad friends/new freedom rebellion than anything else. Friends who only latch on for the money/fame and don't care about the person are pretty toxic, and don't give good advice. The Nebraska women’s volleyball team are bad friends. Got it. I haven't seen from either the DUI story or this one, where she was with other VB players - but go ahead and create that story if you'd like.
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Post by babybacksets on May 4, 2024 19:57:59 GMT -5
The Nebraska women’s volleyball team are bad friends. Got it. I haven't seen from either the DUI story or this one, where she was with other VB players - but go ahead and create that story if you'd like. Reading comprehension is key. Unless you meant to quote someone else then nevermind
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 20:32:33 GMT -5
It should be. And it is the NCAA's fault it should be. The Transfer Portal. Right now teams are walking on eggshells around players, because upset them too much they transfer. Which is why the NCAA should dole out the punishments not schools, that follow them to where they transfer. Player gets suspended by the NCAA, it follows them. The NCAA has no legal standing to punish athletes for traffic, misdemeanor, or felony violations. Nor should they. It would be a significant violation of SA civil rights. Violations of law are up to the DA's and AG's to prosecute. The accused have rights including a presumption of innocence under our legal system. It has the same legal standing as the NFL and NBA to hand out fines and penalties.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 20:42:25 GMT -5
Only if it gets far enough where a conviction is on the table. Plenty of DUIs get "pleaded down" or otherwise diverted and dismissed before that happens all over the country every day. The local DA prosecute NE athletes very aggressively. . LMAO when?
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Post by mikegarrison on May 4, 2024 20:54:35 GMT -5
The NCAA has no legal standing to punish athletes for traffic, misdemeanor, or felony violations. Nor should they. It would be a significant violation of SA civil rights. Violations of law are up to the DA's and AG's to prosecute. The accused have rights including a presumption of innocence under our legal system. It has the same legal standing as the NFL and NBA to hand out fines and penalties. Does it? I suspect not. NFL and NBA athletes all have contracts, and their contracts spell out the circumstances when the League Office can fine them. I would assume they also spell out limits for how big the fines can be. I don't know what NCAA athletes sign up to, exactly, but I suspect the NCAA has a tough time fining them (particularly if they are not "employees"). The NCAA *can* fine their own members (the schools).
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 21:15:36 GMT -5
Agreed. I grew up with/have friends that grew up very fortunate, some of them are just entitled. Sorry Did they also watch their father die slowly in front of them? So did I. At the same age. Didn't send me out into a spiral of drinking driving and theft.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 21:16:31 GMT -5
It’s Nebraska Athletics….they rolled with Lawrence Phillips until he couldn’t help them win😉. She’ll get all the support she needs if she can do that, then she will quietly move on in a fashion that is posed as mutuality beneficial…. Many tried to help LP, in vain. In the end the individual is responsible for their actions. Hopefully HM realizes this and makes needed behavioral changes. NE Athletic Department will provide support, but in the end it is up to HM. Osbourne played a SPOUSE ABUSER! That isn't helping. Osbourne was (IS) a corrupt POS that would do anything for a win. NE athletics and fan need to move past that slimebag. Then we got drunk Solich honored here as well. Solich smelled of alcohol at practice and NU did nothing. Most people knew. No surprise Harper gets off light. Does she get a visit from the police about this? Probably should to check for other stolen items. Shoplifting is generally not a one off crime.
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Post by knapplc on May 4, 2024 21:26:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2024 21:27:21 GMT -5
Lol, they rolled with Lawrence Phillips the whole way. He was reinstated for the last four games in 1995 and started the Fiesta Bowl against Florida. I really don’t think what Osborne did with Phillips 30 years ago is relevant to what Nebraska athletics and Cook do with Murray. It is absolutely still relevant. Very little has changed.
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