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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 17, 2024 14:24:16 GMT -5
Hopkins wins.
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Post by salsolomon on Nov 17, 2024 15:17:42 GMT -5
Smith wins at MIT in 5, crazy match
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Post by ned3vball on Nov 17, 2024 15:41:44 GMT -5
Smith wins at MIT in 5, crazy match The Smith win put Centre in and Babson out for the last pool C. If MIT had won, Babson would have stayed in and Centre would have been last out. MIT losing hurt the NEWMAC more than the Smith win helped. NCAA has updated the NPI numbers. NCAA NPI |
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Post by tmb on Nov 17, 2024 15:48:54 GMT -5
So Babson and then Calvin are out by their #s!!
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Post by tmb on Nov 17, 2024 15:50:59 GMT -5
AQ at large Team NPI Rank
AQ Juniata(AQ) 1
AQ Johns Hopkins(AQ) 2
AQ Emory(AQ) 4
AQ Hope(AQ) 5
AQ Wash. & Lee(AQ) 6
AQ Wis.-Whitewater(AQ) 7
AQ East Tex. Baptist(AQ) 12
AQ Ithaca(AQ) 14
AQ Trinity (TX)(AQ) 15
AQ Whitworth(AQ) 17
AQ La Verne(AQ) 21
AQ Smith(AQ) 23
AQ Cortland(AQ) 27
AQ Otterbein(AQ) 30
AQ Stevens(AQ) 31
AQ Transylvania(AQ) 35
AQ Gallaudet(AQ) 36
AQ Middlebury(AQ) 40
AQ Ill. Wesleyan(AQ) 42
AQ Northwestern-St. Paul(AQ) 43
AQ Messiah(AQ) 45
AQ Endicott(AQ) 46
AQ Wm. Paterson(AQ) 47
AQ Lasell(AQ) 55
AQ Edgewood(AQ) 58
AQ Allegheny(AQ) 59
AQ UMass Dartmouth(AQ) 60
AQ Dubuque(AQ) 67
AQ Cornell College(AQ) 74
AQ Saint Benedict(AQ) 88
AQ St. John Fisher(AQ) 90
AQ Berry(AQ) 92
AQ Ohio Wesleyan(AQ) 95
AQ Southern Va.(AQ) 107
AQ Manhattanville(AQ) 133
AQ Greenville(AQ) 143
AQ Covenant(AQ) 155
AQ John Jay(AQ) 166
AQ Maine Maritime(AQ) 169
AQ Marymount (VA)(AQ) 210
AQ Bridgewater St.(AQ) 236
AQ Penn St.-Altoona(AQ) 240
1 MIT 3
2 Wis.-Oshkosh 8
3 Marietta 9
4 Colby 10
5 WashU 11
6 Millikin 13
7 Gettysburg 16
8 Salisbury 18
9 Chris. Newport(AQ) 19
10 Wis.-Platteville 20
11 CWRU 22
12 Franklin & Marshall 24
13 Va. Wesleyan 25
14 Claremont-M-S 26
15 UChicago 28
16 NYU 29
17 Wis.-Eau Claire 32
18 Springfield 33
19 Carnegie Mellon 34
20 William Smith 37
21 Wis.-Stevens Point 38
22 Centre 39
Babson 41
Calvin 44
Southwestern (TX) 48
Eastern 49
Swarthmore 50
Gustavus Adolphus 51
Coe 52
Ohio Northern 53
North Central (IL) 54
Whittier 56
Bridgewater (VA) 57
Wesleyan (CT) 61
Tufts 62
Plymouth St. 63
St. Catherine 64
Stockton 65
Trinity (CT) 66
Mount Union 68
Texas Lutheran 69
Bowdoin 70
John Carroll 71
Trine 72
Brandeis 73
Montclair St. 75
Hanover 76
Salem (NC) 77
Pomona-Pitzer 78
Scranton 79
Methodist 80
UC Santa Cruz 81
Williams 82
Susquehanna 83
Carthage 84
Colorado Col. 85
Hartwick 86
Wittenberg 87
Mary Hardin-Baylor 89
Neb. Wesleyan 91
Misericordia 93
Bethel (MN) 94
Wis.-Superior 96
Millsaps 97
Haverford 98
Lancaster Bible 99
Baldwin Wallace 100
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Post by noreaster on Nov 17, 2024 16:44:30 GMT -5
Smith wins at MIT in 5, crazy match The Smith win put Centre in and Babson out for the last pool C. If MIT had won, Babson would have stayed in and Centre would have been last out. MIT losing hurt the NEWMAC more than the Smith win helped. NCAA has updated the NPI numbers. NCAA NPIA) The team Babson played once beat the team Babson played twice, but with so many common matches, I'm surprised it's that significant a change that it helps a team from another part of the country with few if any common opponents. B) MIT has one loss, Hopkins has two, including to MIT, and Hopkins jumps MIT for the 2 seed? I'll have to look but I thought MIT played a pretty good schedule - was Hopkins really that much stronger? Although I guess we've seen where losing to Juniata isn't really losing to the NPI. |
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Post by caz on Nov 17, 2024 19:07:17 GMT -5
I made a mock bracket, put teams within their NPI band of 8 and then moved around for reducing flights where possible. The committee will probably emphasize the cost savings and de-emphasize the bands.
R1: Juniata, Ithaca, F&M, Stevens, Springfield, Allegheny, Ohio Wesleyan, Marymount
R2: Hopkins, Trinity, Whitworth, CMS, Gallaudet, William Paterson, Fisher, John Jay
R3: MIT, Colby, Smith, Cortland, Middlebury, Endicott, UMass Dartmouth, Maine Maritime
R4: Emory, ETBU, CNU, Virginia Wesleyan, Centre, Lasell, Berry, Covenant
R5: Hope, Marietta, CWRU, Otterbein, William Smith, Edgewood, Dubuque, PSU Altoona
R6: W&L, Gettysburg, Salisbury, NYU, Transylvania, Messiah, Southern Virginia, Manhattanville
R7: Whitewater, Millikin, Platteville, Chicago, Stevens Point, Illinois Wesleyan, Cornell College, Greenville
R8: Oshkosh, Wash U, La Verne, Eau Claire, Carnegie Mellon, UNW, Saint Benedict, Bridgewater State
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Post by noreaster on Nov 17, 2024 22:30:53 GMT -5
I made a mock bracket, put teams within their NPI band of 8 and then moved around for reducing flights where possible. The committee will probably emphasize the cost savings and de-emphasize the bands. R1: Juniata, Ithaca, F&M, Stevens, Springfield, Allegheny, Ohio Wesleyan, Marymount R2: Hopkins, Trinity, Whitworth, CMS, Gallaudet, William Paterson, Fisher, John Jay R3: MIT, Colby, Smith, Cortland, Middlebury, Endicott, UMass Dartmouth, Maine Maritime R4: Emory, ETBU, CNU, Virginia Wesleyan, Centre, Lasell, Berry, Covenant R5: Hope, Marietta, CWRU, Otterbein, William Smith, Edgewood, Dubuque, PSU Altoona R6: W&L, Gettysburg, Salisbury, NYU, Transylvania, Messiah, Southern Virginia, Manhattanville R7: Whitewater, Millikin, Platteville, Chicago, Stevens Point, Illinois Wesleyan, Cornell College, Greenville R8: Oshkosh, Wash U, La Verne, Eau Claire, Carnegie Mellon, UNW, Saint Benedict, Bridgewater State I can't find the NCAA mileage calculator but I want to say that Emory had to fly to Christopher Newport on a couple of occaisions, so I'm not sure CNU and Va Wesleyan can drive to Atlanta - but they can definitely drive to Baltimore, and the 3 schools flying into Baltimore are flying anywhere they go. La Verne got sent to Oshkosh last year. I don't know of any policy against that but I hope they get to have a different experience this year. Transy can drive to Atlanta, allowing Lasell to drive somewhere, saving the flight to Atlanta. Trying to figure out how to save the Bridgewater flight, but anyway I see to do that leaves a Wisconsin regional stacked. |
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Post by noreaster on Nov 17, 2024 23:31:07 GMT -5
Babson has played 19 NCAA matches in the last 8 tournaments including a finals appearance. They are out but conference mate Smith, who it looks like has played 5 conference playoff matches in 20 years just won the league and is returning to the dance.
Comparing Smith's 5 conference playoff matches, Calvin has played in 6 NCAA title games in the same number of years... after 20 appearances in a row with 3 national titles and 3 other finals appearances, they will not be participating.
Wesleyan has played 16 NCAA tournament games in 6 years including a finals appearance. Conference rival Tufts has made 6 of the last 7 tournaments including the Elite 8 2x, but they don't make it. Instead, Colby is a top 20 team and will get a Pool C bid - freaking Colby?!?
Marietta, won just 5 matches in 2021, nearly went undefeated and will get a Pool C to earn their first appearance ever. William Smith just started their program in 2022 and they also earn a Pool C bid. William Paterson and Allegheny each make the dance by winning their first respective titles since 1991! UMass Dartmouth is making their second straight trip to the NCAA tournament and 2nd appearance ever after completing just their 5th season with a .700+ winning percentage in over 50 years of volleyball. John Jay was 0-38 vs Hunter College, having played annually since 1994, and finally broke through vs the Hawks to punch their ticket to the dance.
I get that stories like this happen every year but I don't recall stories this dramatic and not so many of them in one year. Combine that with the teams who didn't make it and the NPI era arrives with a very different feel to it, no doubt.
Looking forward to a great event! Congrats to all who are going dancing!
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Post by d3follower on Nov 18, 2024 0:07:10 GMT -5
I made a mock bracket, put teams within their NPI band of 8 and then moved around for reducing flights where possible. The committee will probably emphasize the cost savings and de-emphasize the bands. R1: Juniata, Ithaca, F&M, Stevens, Springfield, Allegheny, Ohio Wesleyan, Marymount R2: Hopkins, Trinity, Whitworth, CMS, Gallaudet, William Paterson, Fisher, John Jay R3: MIT, Colby, Smith, Cortland, Middlebury, Endicott, UMass Dartmouth, Maine Maritime R4: Emory, ETBU, CNU, Virginia Wesleyan, Centre, Lasell, Berry, Covenant R5: Hope, Marietta, CWRU, Otterbein, William Smith, Edgewood, Dubuque, PSU Altoona R6: W&L, Gettysburg, Salisbury, NYU, Transylvania, Messiah, Southern Virginia, Manhattanville R7: Whitewater, Millikin, Platteville, Chicago, Stevens Point, Illinois Wesleyan, Cornell College, Greenville R8: Oshkosh, Wash U, La Verne, Eau Claire, Carnegie Mellon, UNW, Saint Benedict, Bridgewater State By my count that is 12 flights. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Nov 18, 2024 12:43:15 GMT -5
Selection show is today on ncaa.com. Starts in about 20 minutes!
Let's see how accurate the NPI and predictions so far are.
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Post by VolleyParton on Nov 18, 2024 13:28:47 GMT -5
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Post by jcvball22 on Nov 18, 2024 13:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by caz on Nov 18, 2024 13:58:29 GMT -5
Oshkosh and W&L not hosting; Marietta and CNU hosting in their spots. Probably didn't need two Wisconsin regions, but I have to guess Washington & Lee just declined the hosting opportunity.
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Post by noreaster on Nov 18, 2024 14:02:45 GMT -5
Oshkosh and W&L not hosting; Marietta and CNU hosting in their spots. Probably didn't need two Wisconsin regions, but I have to guess Washington & Lee just declined the hosting opportunity. Turns out they are hosting the field hockey finals and couldn't swing both events. |
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