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Post by onyourhead on Apr 23, 2024 20:28:05 GMT -5
Alright man, you do realize NTDP is not exclusive nor very hard to be in at all. Just saying I’ve seen him play and he is around the 10–15 best setter in that class and his attitude could use significant work. 10-15th is generous. He is the 3rd best on his club team, If Tread hadn't left early he would have been 4th and likely not on that team. But he is tall and has potential to have a similar contribution as Buchanan. Long shot that he will do more, but possible. Every player has a different journey and a lot of that is up to the player, not anyone else. It would be cool to see him exceed everyone's expectations. This is funny. Victor Lowe is easily the best setter on the MB Surf 18s squad. If anyone’s ever been around Manhattan Beach/ Loyola volleyball, then they know Boehle is as political as it gets. Starting setter for them right now (Schloss) only starts all the way around because he is universally known as Sean Kelly’s setter as he has been setting him since 12s. Theres great questions why Blake Fahlbusch isn’t actually playing this season for Loyola. Maybe that has to do with the reasons for his brother transferring and the impact Boehle had. Look no further to Rob Mullahey, a kid cut from the Loyola squad for a coach’s son just to play at Pepperdine and play professionally in Denmark. Sorry for the Surf/Loyola rant but give Lowe some credit here |
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Post by LongSpatch on Apr 23, 2024 21:56:04 GMT -5
10-15th is generous. He is the 3rd best on his club team, If Tread hadn't left early he would have been 4th and likely not on that team. But he is tall and has potential to have a similar contribution as Buchanan. Long shot that he will do more, but possible. Every player has a different journey and a lot of that is up to the player, not anyone else. It would be cool to see him exceed everyone's expectations. This is funny. Victor Lowe is easily the best setter on the MB Surf 18s squad. If anyone’s ever been around Manhattan Beach/ Loyola volleyball, then they know Boehle is as political as it gets. Starting setter for them right now (Schloss) only starts all the way around because he is universally known as Sean Kelly’s setter as he has been setting him since 12s. Theres great questions why Blake Fahlbusch isn’t actually playing this season for Loyola. Maybe that has to do with the reasons for his brother transferring and the impact Boehle had. Look no further to Rob Mullahey, a kid cut from the Loyola squad for a coach’s son just to play at Pepperdine and play professionally in Denmark. Sorry for the Surf/Loyola rant but give Lowe some credit here you should be sorry. That was a very weird rant that has absolutely nothing to do with subject matter. Calling one of the greatest most successful HSVB coaches ever "as political as it gets" is pretty silly. How many years of consistent winning does the guy have to do. Taking a shot at Parker Shloss is bizarre as well. That kid wins and has been one of the best setters across CIF SS this season. Victor Lowe is a good player and has improved his game a lot in the past year. |
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Post by onyourhead on Apr 23, 2024 22:23:40 GMT -5
This is funny. Victor Lowe is easily the best setter on the MB Surf 18s squad. If anyone’s ever been around Manhattan Beach/ Loyola volleyball, then they know Boehle is as political as it gets. Starting setter for them right now (Schloss) only starts all the way around because he is universally known as Sean Kelly’s setter as he has been setting him since 12s. Theres great questions why Blake Fahlbusch isn’t actually playing this season for Loyola. Maybe that has to do with the reasons for his brother transferring and the impact Boehle had. Look no further to Rob Mullahey, a kid cut from the Loyola squad for a coach’s son just to play at Pepperdine and play professionally in Denmark. Sorry for the Surf/Loyola rant but give Lowe some credit here you should be sorry. That was a very weird rant that has absolutely nothing to do with subject matter. Calling one of the greatest most successful HSVB coaches ever "as political as it gets" is pretty silly. How many years of consistent winning does the guy have to do. Taking a shot at Parker Shloss is bizarre as well. That kid wins and has been one of the best setters across CIF SS this season. Victor Lowe is a good player and has improved his game a lot in the past year. Did you even read what was quoted. It completely relates to the subject matter. It was a response to the oblivious take that Victor Lowe is the third best setter on MB Surf and wouldn’t be on the team if Tread was still there. Why are people bashing on a Hawaii commit? Clearly he has proved some of this. Schloss is an amazing player and I do not want to disrespect him but saying Lowe is the third best setter on the team is wild. If anyone was coaching at Mira Costa for 20 plus years they would be known as one of the greatest successful HSVB coaches of all time. Regardless, I believe and many others do that Lowe is the best setter on this team as he is the only setter playing in college. |
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Post by xlumie on Apr 23, 2024 23:05:06 GMT -5
Nikolov is ready and has more than enough experience to beat the others. Paris 2024 Olympic Qualifiers (last year) CEV U20 Euro Championship 2024 (this past January) for sure he is high odds on favorite to be the setter. like 90% none of those videos show him having to move more than 6 inches to make a set. jury is always out until real time chasing down bad passes  Be serious here. Nikolov is 100% the starter, unless he wants to redshirt. I find his blocking, serving, and setting better than any of LBSU's current setters (Knipe included). I might stan LBSU just for him, even though LBSU fan(s) are annoying. |
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 23, 2024 23:20:35 GMT -5
for sure he is high odds on favorite to be the setter. like 90% none of those videos show him having to move more than 6 inches to make a set. jury is always out until real time chasing down bad passes Be serious here. Nikolov is 100% the starter, unless he wants to redshirt. I find his blocking, serving, and setting better than any of LBSU's current setters (Knipe included). I might stan LBSU just for him, even though LBSU fan(s) are annoying. we'll see how fast and how much ground he covers, so will reserve judgement, so 90% |
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Post by onyourhead on Apr 23, 2024 23:23:36 GMT -5
1.LBSU- Bulgarians and a bag of chips 2.USC- Solid players, probally won’t matter coaching staff will find a way to make them miss playoffs all 4 years 3. OSU- Polish wonder kid and company 4.UCLA- Sean Kelly and a bag of chips 5. Penn- No thoughts, could recruit NFT’s and win Conference every year 6. Pepp- No comment 7. Standford- No comment 8. UCSB- Conglomerate of Balboa bay and Mb Surf 5th strings 9. GCU- Entire AZ Fear club 10. Irvine Honorable mentions: Princeton , Loyola , Hawai’i Put some respect on Riggs name! Kid is a baller |
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Post by scali on Apr 24, 2024 0:56:13 GMT -5
all the setters, including Doty, deserve a fair shot. I wish Doty had been able to set a few more matches. Hard to tell, even Beebe got the nod over Doty a bit, including a 5 set loss at UCLA last year. and all the liberos, Larson and Harman, as well let the competition begin. still hope to see some of BOuchkov in the NCAAs, the guy has to be a bit frustrated right now wanting to play - understandable the guy's a mean competitor lol Beebe and Knipe graduate out. Is there someone I'm missing? Doty - he played U21 National Team last summer Harman - is he more of a lib or setter? Will he go the sand route like Partain instead? Peluso - he never sees the court, I'm surprised he doesn't follow his dad to George Mason Pazanti - my guess is he gets redshirted? Nikolov - I would assume he gets the most looks since everyone has been so high on him. Knipe & Bebee- moving on Looks like they will have a setter at each year. Nikolov- freshman and likely to start Doty- will be a junior Peluso- freshman year was serving specialist. Redshirted this year so will be RS Soph. Harman- RS this year will be RS freshman setter/libero Pazanti- freshman might RS |
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Post by coachmp24 on Apr 24, 2024 13:34:25 GMT -5
main issue for Beach is replacing and life without Briggs. Yes, Briggs is a generational talent, but I do not think the libs Long Beach has on the bench are getting enough credit. Chris Connelly - probably best lib in class of '22 Kellen Larson - hands down best lib in class of '24 (reclassified '23) Ford Harman - all-around baller Knipe has been hoarding NTDP libs, and it's finally about to pay dividends. Any of these guys would be freshman starters making all-conference teams if they were on almost any other team that didn't have the future national team lib ahead of them. I could even see one or both of the libs who doesn't win the spot transferring next year (*cough* UCLA *cough*) because these guys are elite. |
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Post by yeewww on Apr 24, 2024 18:55:06 GMT -5
you should be sorry. That was a very weird rant that has absolutely nothing to do with subject matter. Calling one of the greatest most successful HSVB coaches ever "as political as it gets" is pretty silly. How many years of consistent winning does the guy have to do. Taking a shot at Parker Shloss is bizarre as well. That kid wins and has been one of the best setters across CIF SS this season. Victor Lowe is a good player and has improved his game a lot in the past year. Did you even read what was quoted. It completely relates to the subject matter. It was a response to the oblivious take that Victor Lowe is the third best setter on MB Surf and wouldn’t be on the team if Tread was still there. Why are people bashing on a Hawaii commit? Clearly he has proved some of this. Schloss is an amazing player and I do not want to disrespect him but saying Lowe is the third best setter on the team is wild. If anyone was coaching at Mira Costa for 20 plus years they would be known as one of the greatest successful HSVB coaches of all time. Regardless, I believe and many others do that Lowe is the best setter on this team as he is the only setter playing in college. I understand and appreciate you standing up for Victor Lowe (who's a solid volleyball player) but there's really no need to go ahead and bash another young player (Parker Schloss) and a coach/club/high school. In what world would it be acceptable for a coach to consistently not play their best player at a position? Victor is a great player who helps that team in a lot of ways but at this time it's just not as a setter. Two other points: 1. Boehle isn't the head coach of that 18's team. 2. Blake Fahlbusch has been hurt all year (not sure he played in any club tournaments before the high school season). But those facts don't fit your narrative. All in all, yes the bashing of Victor is unwarranted and distasteful but that doesn't make it ok to besmirch other young players/people. Victor is a great player with a lot of potential which I'm sure he'll maximize in a competitive gym like Hawaii. All the best to him. |
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Post by practicesafesets on Apr 24, 2024 19:19:04 GMT -5
"Let's be clear NTDP is very subjective". You're not clear on that, just vague. You're also operating on the premise that Lowe has an "in" and we don't know that. I said "kids" I didn't say Lowe specifically. Some kids definitely don't deserve to be at NTDP. Some kids get invited multiple times and get pulled from the list. It really is a who you know thing in certain regions. You're prolly salty that Lowe got invited and your kids didn't, because your kids are mediocre |
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Post by practicesafesets on Apr 24, 2024 19:21:29 GMT -5
How do the international recruits compare with kelly, foley and finn? Will finn play OH at UH? Kelly is a big talent even on the highest international stage. Foley and Finn, mmmm... remains to be seen |
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Post by onyourhead on Apr 24, 2024 23:31:56 GMT -5
Did you even read what was quoted. It completely relates to the subject matter. It was a response to the oblivious take that Victor Lowe is the third best setter on MB Surf and wouldn’t be on the team if Tread was still there. Why are people bashing on a Hawaii commit? Clearly he has proved some of this. Schloss is an amazing player and I do not want to disrespect him but saying Lowe is the third best setter on the team is wild. If anyone was coaching at Mira Costa for 20 plus years they would be known as one of the greatest successful HSVB coaches of all time. Regardless, I believe and many others do that Lowe is the best setter on this team as he is the only setter playing in college. I understand and appreciate you standing up for Victor Lowe (who's a solid volleyball player) but there's really no need to go ahead and bash another young player (Parker Schloss) and a coach/club/high school. In what world would it be acceptable for a coach to consistently not play their best player at a position? Victor is a great player who helps that team in a lot of ways but at this time it's just not as a setter. Two other points: 1. Boehle isn't the head coach of that 18's team. 2. Blake Fahlbusch has been hurt all year (not sure he played in any club tournaments before the high school season). But those facts don't fit your narrative. All in all, yes the bashing of Victor is unwarranted and distasteful but that doesn't make it ok to besmirch other young players/people. Victor is a great player with a lot of potential which I'm sure he'll maximize in a competitive gym like Hawaii. All the best to him. To clear things up, I just never understood people hating on Victor Lowe. In doing this, I never meant to bash on Parker Schloss. Parker Schloss is a great player and great teammate. Volleytalk is a forum on opinions, whether you agree or not it is my opinion that Victor Lowe is the most talented setter on that MB Surf 18s squad, despite him not setting very often. The reason I mentioned Loyola/MB Surf Volleyball is because it (again!) is my opinion that things happen and maybe Victor isn't seeing time as setter. To any logical person, it seems like the best player should always start/get more playing time. Thats why I included what I did about Loyola/Boehle/etc to give context that there are many times where this is not the case. I dont want to make this a debate but to respond to your points 1. Boehle isnt the head coach of the 18s team, as you are correct. However, he spends the most if not all his time with the 18s team. Parker and Sean have such a great connection that it probably is best parker sets Sean. However in terms of talent and potential, Victor is the one playing at UH next year. Don't kid yourself, Boehle has influence on lineups on the 18s squad and probably most of the older teams. 2. You are right, Blake Falhbusch has not played this year at all, excpet for maybe the first Socal Cups. However, don't kid yourself as there is no way Blake is not at his peak for his U19 tryouts. If Blake had to play tomorrow as the aliens came down, he could definitely play. As sad as it is, theres a reason why his brother (Thatcher) abruptly left MB Surf/Loyola. Take what you want with that information. I think thats what is holding him back from coming back this HS season. |
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Post by abelincoln on Apr 25, 2024 12:01:56 GMT -5
I understand and appreciate you standing up for Victor Lowe (who's a solid volleyball player) but there's really no need to go ahead and bash another young player (Parker Schloss) and a coach/club/high school. In what world would it be acceptable for a coach to consistently not play their best player at a position? Victor is a great player who helps that team in a lot of ways but at this time it's just not as a setter. Two other points: 1. Boehle isn't the head coach of that 18's team. 2. Blake Fahlbusch has been hurt all year (not sure he played in any club tournaments before the high school season). But those facts don't fit your narrative. All in all, yes the bashing of Victor is unwarranted and distasteful but that doesn't make it ok to besmirch other young players/people. Victor is a great player with a lot of potential which I'm sure he'll maximize in a competitive gym like Hawaii. All the best to him. To clear things up, I just never understood people hating on Victor Lowe. In doing this, I never meant to bash on Parker Schloss. Parker Schloss is a great player and great teammate. Volleytalk is a forum on opinions, whether you agree or not it is my opinion that Victor Lowe is the most talented setter on that MB Surf 18s squad, despite him not setting very often. The reason I mentioned Loyola/MB Surf Volleyball is because it (again!) is my opinion that things happen and maybe Victor isn't seeing time as setter. To any logical person, it seems like the best player should always start/get more playing time. Thats why I included what I did about Loyola/Boehle/etc to give context that there are many times where this is not the case. I dont want to make this a debate but to respond to your points 1. Boehle isnt the head coach of the 18s team, as you are correct. However, he spends the most if not all his time with the 18s team. Parker and Sean have such a great connection that it probably is best parker sets Sean. However in terms of talent and potential, Victor is the one playing at UH next year. Don't kid yourself, Boehle has influence on lineups on the 18s squad and probably most of the older teams. 2. You are right, Blake Falhbusch has not played this year at all, excpet for maybe the first Socal Cups. However, don't kid yourself as there is no way Blake is not at his peak for his U19 tryouts. If Blake had to play tomorrow as the aliens came down, he could definitely play. As sad as it is, theres a reason why his brother (Thatcher) abruptly left MB Surf/Loyola. Take what you want with that information. I think thats what is holding him back from coming back this HS season. No skin in this game but… 1. Victor Lowe is highly underrated. If Hawaii builds him up he can compete for that setter spot eventually. How he’s not starting on my surf is beyond me but make of it what you will. 2. Respect on Riggs Guy for sure. He’s a gamer. 3. People knocking taliaferro makes me think people don’t know what they’re watching. There’s no one in HS running offense like that. |
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Post by LongSpatch on May 2, 2024 15:12:20 GMT -5
you should be sorry. That was a very weird rant that has absolutely nothing to do with subject matter. Calling one of the greatest most successful HSVB coaches ever "as political as it gets" is pretty silly. How many years of consistent winning does the guy have to do. Taking a shot at Parker Shloss is bizarre as well. That kid wins and has been one of the best setters across CIF SS this season. Victor Lowe is a good player and has improved his game a lot in the past year. Did you even read what was quoted. It completely relates to the subject matter. It was a response to the oblivious take that Victor Lowe is the third best setter on MB Surf and wouldn’t be on the team if Tread was still there. Why are people bashing on a Hawaii commit? Clearly he has proved some of this. Schloss is an amazing player and I do not want to disrespect him but saying Lowe is the third best setter on the team is wild. If anyone was coaching at Mira Costa for 20 plus years they would be known as one of the greatest successful HSVB coaches of all time. Regardless, I believe and many others do that Lowe is the best setter on this team as he is the only setter playing in college. you must be dull or an idiot. Mira Costa has a LEGENDARY coach who quite literally started the program. Ever heard of Mike Cook. Been at MCHS since the early 1980s! Has won upwards of 8 national titles. Stop continuing to make uneducated comments on a subject that you seem to know nothing about. |
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Post by foreignball on May 4, 2024 21:28:14 GMT -5
CEV U20 Euro Championship 2024 (this past January) BTW this video also features Kandev (#13) and Titriiski (#9) |
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