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Post by brokeclubdad on Jun 11, 2024 12:36:36 GMT -5
Kind of interesting that the selections for Beach are from Tennesse Utah Wisconsin Texas Missouri Florida North Carolina Where are all the California guys who grow up playing on sand every weekend? Most of the So Cal guys are still playing indoors hoping to play in college. Since there is no men's beach in college, it behooves them to play indoor at Nationals. Beach tournaments down here pick up attendance a lot in July. |
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Post by gtrich on Jun 11, 2024 12:59:32 GMT -5
Kind of interesting that the selections for Beach are from Tennesse Utah Wisconsin Texas Missouri Florida North Carolina Where are all the California guys who grow up playing on sand every weekend? Most of the So Cal guys are still playing indoors hoping to play in college. Since there is no men's beach in college, it behooves them to play indoor at Nationals. Beach tournaments down here pick up attendance a lot in July. There's a good bit of men's beach in college now, it's just not on the west coast. Colleges with men's beach programs (or at least all of these teams played Stevenson's beach program last year) - Stevenson
- Webber
- Erskine
- Liberty
- University of Delaware
- Reinhardt University
- Westcliff
- Lincoln Memorial
- Tusculum
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Post by brokeclubdad on Jun 11, 2024 13:10:15 GMT -5
Most of the So Cal guys are still playing indoors hoping to play in college. Since there is no men's beach in college, it behooves them to play indoor at Nationals. Beach tournaments down here pick up attendance a lot in July. There's a good bit of men's beach in college now, it's just not on the west coast. Colleges with men's beach programs (or at least all of these teams played Stevenson's beach program last year) - Stevenson
- Webber
- Erskine
- Liberty
- University of Delaware
- Reinhardt University
- Westcliff
- Lincoln Memorial
- Tusculum
You understood my point right? |
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Post by sydneyoperahouse on Jun 11, 2024 13:19:31 GMT -5
Things I found notable from Off The Block's great interview: - Alviar outplayed Larson for the spot this week (coach acknowledges this might be surprising to many) - Coach says that Cryst is an 07??? Also USA Schedule for Groups (pretty sure times are pacific time): June 11 4:00 pm Nicaragua vs United States June 12 4:00 pm Suriname vs United States June 13 8:00 pm Mexico vs United States Probably means that he is a 2007 birthday. To clarify: Coach said that he was eligible for the next U21 cycle, which I am interpreting as he is eligible for the current U19 cycle, and since he's a 2025 grad it makes sense he would be an 07 birthdate. |
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Post by gofaster88 on Jun 11, 2024 14:17:15 GMT -5
Kind of interesting that the selections for Beach are from Tennesse Utah Wisconsin Texas Missouri Florida North Carolina Where are all the California guys who grow up playing on sand every weekend? Most of the So Cal guys are still playing indoors hoping to play in college. Since there is no men's beach in college, it behooves them to play indoor at Nationals. Beach tournaments down here pick up attendance a lot in July. I need to clarify my point, I guess. 6 out of the 8 selected are still playing Club indoors (HS age) and will be at AAU Nationals. So yes, it's still surprising as these are guys that the SoCal guys will be playing indoor at Nationals as well. The timeline is different as the training block is actually built around SoCal Showcase. |
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Post by gtrich on Jun 11, 2024 15:13:57 GMT -5
Most of the So Cal guys are still playing indoors hoping to play in college. Since there is no men's beach in college, it behooves them to play indoor at Nationals. Beach tournaments down here pick up attendance a lot in July. I need to clarify my point, I guess. 6 out of the 8 selected are still playing Club indoors (HS age) and will be at AAU Nationals. So yes, it's still surprising as these are guys that the SoCal guys will be playing indoor at Nationals as well. The timeline is different as the training block is actually built around SoCal Showcase. The selection process to Indoor NTDP is murky, the selection to Beach NTDP is downright opaque. I stopped trying to figure out how some kids get invites to beach NTDP, and yet never play in any beach tournaments. Where-as others play in tournaments all the time, and never get invites. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2024 13:16:25 GMT -5
Very murky and coaches always pick favorites. Does anyone really think the loyola middle is better than Aruya or the Princeton middle that didn’t even make it?
No surprise that Loyola is also one of the teams going hardest after Cryst.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2024 13:18:10 GMT -5
WOAH really surprised that Alviar made it over Larson. Larson was the clear #1 for the U19 cycles over Alviar. Also interesting that Cryst and Klein were preferred to Whitfield and Jordan. Surprised too that Taliaferro was preferred to Blanchette (almost wonder if Blanchette was told he wasn't going to start and decided to ask for time off?) Just can't really understand that one given Blanchette was very decent at USC this year. And finally, we have to do the one opp thing again too? One US team with only one opposite for the olympics wasn't enough? Larson’s passing was horrible at u19 , granted so were Foley and Kelly. The way they passed against Nicaragua wasn’t enouraging either, France will just keep serving these guys off the court if they don’t improve by a lot. |
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Post by xlumie on Jun 12, 2024 13:22:52 GMT -5
Very murky and coaches always pick favorites. Does anyone really think the loyola middle is better than Aruya or the Princeton middle that didn’t even make it? No surprise that Loyola is also one of the teams going hardest after Cryst. The Princeton middle is pretty bad IMO. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jun 12, 2024 14:40:43 GMT -5
Very murky and coaches always pick favorites. Does anyone really think the loyola middle is better than Aruya or the Princeton middle that didn’t even make it? No surprise that Loyola is also one of the teams going hardest after Cryst. The Princeton middle is pretty bad IMO. I wouldn't say bad, but he did not play well on the U19 team last year. |
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Post by gofaster88 on Jun 12, 2024 16:02:58 GMT -5
WOAH really surprised that Alviar made it over Larson. Larson was the clear #1 for the U19 cycles over Alviar. Also interesting that Cryst and Klein were preferred to Whitfield and Jordan. Surprised too that Taliaferro was preferred to Blanchette (almost wonder if Blanchette was told he wasn't going to start and decided to ask for time off?) Just can't really understand that one given Blanchette was very decent at USC this year. And finally, we have to do the one opp thing again too? One US team with only one opposite for the olympics wasn't enough? Larson’s passing was horrible at u19 , granted so were Foley and Kelly. The way they passed against Nicaragua wasn’t enouraging either, France will just keep serving these guys off the court if they don’t improve by a lot. Good point we probably have to keep in mind the level of competition at NORCECA vs World Championship in 2023 is very different. |
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Post by wilbur on Jun 12, 2024 17:05:47 GMT -5
WOAH really surprised that Alviar made it over Larson. Larson was the clear #1 for the U19 cycles over Alviar. Also interesting that Cryst and Klein were preferred to Whitfield and Jordan. Surprised too that Taliaferro was preferred to Blanchette (almost wonder if Blanchette was told he wasn't going to start and decided to ask for time off?) Just can't really understand that one given Blanchette was very decent at USC this year. And finally, we have to do the one opp thing again too? One US team with only one opposite for the olympics wasn't enough? Larson’s passing was horrible at u19 , granted so were Foley and Kelly. The way they passed against Nicaragua wasn’t enouraging either, France will just keep serving these guys off the court if they don’t improve by a lot. I wouldn't say the three were horrible last summer as a unit but it was far from adaquate enough to win compete in the semi final against France or the 3rd place match against Korea(?) Larson compared to the Korean L was shocking but the US service pressure was not great compared to France or Korea. These teams are for development and Norseca is a likely lock to qualify so if there are players that are very close I would prefer to see a new face, since the ultimate goal is the senior team being the best it can be and the wider a net cast, the better so we can see what these guys respond in real situations. |
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Post by sydneyoperahouse on Jun 15, 2024 23:48:09 GMT -5
USA wins the semis over Cuba 3-0 (25-20, 25-21, 25-16) in a not particularly close fashion. Kelly hit .600, Hartke hit .556 at Opp, Rosenthal had 5 blocks + 3 aces, and Alviar had 7 digs and some catlike reflexes.
They advance to play Canada in the final at 6pm PST tomorrow.
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Post by Timeless on Jun 19, 2024 17:37:17 GMT -5
Another top recruit bout to get ruined at USC. Tomkinson leveled up quite a bit as well.
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Post by sydneyoperahouse on Jun 19, 2024 18:50:41 GMT -5
Another top recruit bout to get ruined at USC. Tomkinson leveled up quite a bit as well. Yeah I'm almost done with my u19 analytics and will try to get the u21 stuff done by August, but I imagine Cryst, Tomkinson, Rosenthal and Foley will be the big winners. |
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