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Post by vbruh on Jun 20, 2024 20:35:23 GMT -5
Guys, grow up. This is lame.
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Post by potato518 on Jun 20, 2024 20:36:31 GMT -5
Guys, grow up. This is lame. ok booooo fine
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Post by Freeman on Jun 20, 2024 21:08:52 GMT -5
Here’s a Tweet from a club director of a club who is solid, but who rarely qualifies open. I’m sure that tweet didn’t come out of the blue. It’s in reaction to what has gone down this week. Never heard of that club . The only people I hear complaning are 1) the recruiting services who lose business 2) the parents of kids in the second tier who didn’t get a shot at their dream school. 3) Club Directors from unknown clubs, like above, who feel bad their athletes didn’t stand a chance bc spots are given away too early, Show me a tweet from the directors of Skyline, Legacy or 1st Alliance upset at their top athlete committing to their dream school I’m fairly certain it is or was recently the largest club in the country. Also directs Boilers Jrs I believe. About every club director and college coach I'm connected to on social media hates this. While early commits don’t necessarily mean deadlines, this many means there are some of those. These athletes still need to develop and more than anything, have real conversations with coaches and visits.
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Post by ilalum92 on Jun 20, 2024 21:18:06 GMT -5
At least it isn’t “world’s smallest penis” like in your case. Snapchat me girl it’s about 8 and th*ck Oh dont say that around here, lots of us gays will be in your DM’s. We’ve successfully derailed thread for less
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Post by beachgrad on Jun 20, 2024 21:21:05 GMT -5
There has to be a balance because coaches cannot wait for long periods of time without paying a consequence. If that athlete does not choose them they may lose out on their other choices. Might have to go way down the food chain if they wait too long. Really a tough spot for both parties for different reasons.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 20, 2024 21:21:05 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out what benefit the larger volleyball community gets from these new recruiting rules? Best I can tell, nothing has really changed re who goes where. The most elite recruits are still ending up at the same handful of schools and end up committing very early (within days), the next tier get filtered into the same handful of stalwart second next tier schools or whichever programs are "in fashion" for the recruiting cycle and end up committing still relatively early (within months). Everyone else gets recruited/commit some time within the next year (which was, what I assume, one of the goal of these new rules.... as many recruits as possible committing later). To make matters worse, there are more transfers then ever, even among underclassmen who had these new recruiting rules, even among elite recruits! Later commitment times leading to players making better decisions.... oh phewy. Tell that to Jurevicious, Kubik, and Mendelson, who all left a team that went to the national championship match the year prior and could have written their ticket to any school out of high school. Personally, I vote for the old method. At least back then, there was a chance that ANY coach could identify talent early, nurture the relationship and develop a rapport. Now, they can't do that. By time they end their 16's year, there really isn't that much unidentified talent. It's all pretty much known at that point (overall ceiling notwithstanding), and coaches have no ability to make a personal connection before that player becomes known. Nowadays, by time schools can have any meaningful interaction with recruits, the talent is known and schools like Texas and Nebraska can then scoop in on day 1 with their attention and money, and sans some family or non-volleyball related personal desire to go to a particular school, most schools just don't stand a chance. The rich are just as rich (or getting richer), and players aren't making any better decisions about their future. I call these new recruiting rules a loss for volleyball as a whole. A system of rules that results in offering scholarships to eighth graders is fatally flawed. So while I appreciate that this year’s rules are far from perfect, going back to the past isn’t the right answer either. Moreover how do you get away from the best players wanting to play for the best teams, and vice versa? That is the inevitable result of a matchmaking system with freedom of choice. It’s just not possible to to institute something like a draft. At best a waiting period between offer and acceptance of offer may help, but I don’t see that changing the matches much. For example, if you look at non-athletic college admissions, virtually nobody would choose Ohio State over Stanford even if they were forced to wait one month after both schools offered a scholarship. Why is a system where someone can contact-offer an 8th grader fatally flawed? Nobody forces those kids to accept the offer, or even the contact. If parents wanted to shield their kids from such things, there were perfectly able to under the old system.
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Post by n00b on Jun 20, 2024 21:31:58 GMT -5
A system of rules that results in offering scholarships to eighth graders is fatally flawed. So while I appreciate that this year’s rules are far from perfect, going back to the past isn’t the right answer either. Moreover how do you get away from the best players wanting to play for the best teams, and vice versa? That is the inevitable result of a matchmaking system with freedom of choice. It’s just not possible to to institute something like a draft. At best a waiting period between offer and acceptance of offer may help, but I don’t see that changing the matches much. For example, if you look at non-athletic college admissions, virtually nobody would choose Ohio State over Stanford even if they were forced to wait one month after both schools offered a scholarship. Why is a system where someone can contact-offer an 8th grader fatally flawed? Nobody forces those kids to accept the offer, or even the contact. If parents wanted to shield their kids from such things, there were perfectly able to under the old system. And in fact, coaches weren’t even allowed to initiate the contact with the 8th grader. The kid would be the one who had to initiate the call.
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Post by jcvball22 on Jun 20, 2024 22:00:16 GMT -5
Maybe a dumb Q but are 100% of the commits we’re seeing scholarship athletes, or are any walk-ons? Solid mix of both. And it’s not a dumb question. I know the status on multiple of the commits and it’s a mixed bag.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jun 20, 2024 22:12:00 GMT -5
At least it isn’t “world’s smallest penis” like in your case. Snapchat me girl it’s about 8 and th*ck you have to be chronically online to get this reference
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Post by potato518 on Jun 20, 2024 22:30:41 GMT -5
Snapchat me girl it’s about 8 and th*ck you have to be chronically online to get this reference ily
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Post by Hawk Attack on Jun 20, 2024 22:31:29 GMT -5
Snapchat me girl it’s about 8 and th*ck Oh dont say that around here, lots of us gays will be in your DM’s. We’ve successfully derailed thread for less Remember when madden left because his OnlyFans was leaked.
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Post by trojansc on Jun 20, 2024 22:46:51 GMT -5
Oh dont say that around here, lots of us gays will be in your DM’s. We’ve successfully derailed thread for less Remember when madden left because his OnlyFans was leaked. Is this a pop culture reference or am I missing the joke
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Post by katn on Jun 20, 2024 22:50:28 GMT -5
episode of grindr
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jun 20, 2024 23:03:10 GMT -5
Remember when madden left because his OnlyFans was leaked. Is this a pop culture reference or am I missing the joke just google OnlyFans when you get to work tomorrow and it’ll make sense
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jun 20, 2024 23:16:13 GMT -5
Why is a system where someone can contact-offer an 8th grader fatally flawed? Nobody forces those kids to accept the offer, or even the contact. If parents wanted to shield their kids from such things, there were perfectly able to under the old system. And in fact, coaches weren’t even allowed to initiate the contact with the 8th grader. The kid would be the one who had to initiate the call. Sorry it just seems too young to me, fielding offers about college when you haven’t even entered high school and really still are a kid. Especially now as college sports are increasingly professional. Anyway my main point is that the best players will gravitate to the best teams, on down the line, and instituting more time in the recruiting process will not change that. I think what makes the process off-putting is coaches must make more offers than they actually have in inventory (because they know many prospects will decline). The athletes know this, so they’ll accept an offer right away if they think it’s likely the best they’ll get, as it may disappear if they sit on it. Hence speed is incentivized.
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