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Post by n00b on Jun 18, 2024 14:25:43 GMT -5
Boy, thank goodness we changed the communication dates for recruiting. Things have really, really slowed down, athletes are really taking their time making decisions... I think this system is considerably worse than the old one where a handful of 15 year olds committed.
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Post by endersgame on Jun 18, 2024 15:00:31 GMT -5
Boy, thank goodness we changed the communication dates for recruiting. Things have really, really slowed down, athletes are really taking their time making decisions... I think this system is considerably worse than the old one where a handful of 15 year olds committed. The recruiting system this year was likely the worse seen in a while and it's only going to get uglier. Parents and kids want $ and promises... and coaches are giving them out. Fully expect the transfer portal to be a mess in 3-4 years and beyond.
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Jun 18, 2024 15:11:07 GMT -5
It will be less messy than this year bc no more covid 5th years that are hunting a title.
Yes I agree underclassman will still transfer but don’t think it will be to crazy. And once ncaa figures out $$ I think it will slow down even more. Exciting times!
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 18, 2024 15:41:19 GMT -5
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 18, 2024 15:43:09 GMT -5
I'm much happier with this than 8 - 9th graders trying to make decisions. Seems like that's a better recipe for more transfers. And I say that as a fan that benefitted from Carlini's early decision.
I wonder if there could be an early window for coaches and players to talk and for players to receive offers, and then a later date at which these commitments can start happening. It would require the commitments be a bit more official and binding, which I guess would be hard to normalize across institutions with different acceptance criteria.
Otherwise there has to be a sea change in attitude. As long as there are only 12 programs to win a national championship, and only a few with a reasonable chance in any one year, I think we're going to see this rush continue.
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Post by princessavb on Jun 18, 2024 15:51:43 GMT -5
Great day to be a Louisville fan! She’s gonna make a huge impact!
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Post by n00b on Jun 18, 2024 15:57:06 GMT -5
I'm much happier with this than 8 - 9th graders trying to make decisions. Seems like that's a better recipe for more transfers. And I say that as a fan that benefitted from Carlini's early decision. I assume you’re a Wisconsin fan from your username, and your point is perfectly valid when it comes to top 10 programs. However, the current rule makes it a mad scramble for another 300 schools. I actually agree that is marginally less bad for Top 10 recruiting. But commits in the first five days of being able to have a recruiting conversation to places like Indiana, Georgia and Ole Miss reeks of either (a) impermissible recruiting tactics and/or (b) uninformed decisions. “It’s nice to meet you, your offer is good for 24 hours” is absolutely happening and is not an improvement in my opinion.
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Post by n00b on Jun 18, 2024 16:06:00 GMT -5
I wonder if there could be an early window for coaches and players to talk and for players to receive offers, and then a later date at which these commitments can start happening. It would require the commitments be a bit more official and binding, which I guess would be hard to normalize across institutions with different acceptance criteria. A fix is in the works. All recruiting restrictions are on college coaches, not high schoolers. So verbal commitments will never be restricted, but they ARE trying to trying to have a window where it’s impermissible for a coach to make an offer. Yes, this is largely unenforceable, but if an athlete is unable to publicly announce a verbal commitment without setting off an NCAA investigation, maybe that serves the purpose well enough?
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 18, 2024 16:09:57 GMT -5
I'm much happier with this than 8 - 9th graders trying to make decisions. Seems like that's a better recipe for more transfers. And I say that as a fan that benefitted from Carlini's early decision. “It’s nice to meet you, your offer is good for 24 hours” is absolutely happening and is not an improvement in my opinion. Yeah. That's why I suggest a separate communication window and an commitment window. Not sure there is a way something like that, but that structure would reduce options to pressure SAs to make fast decisions.
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Post by badgerbreath on Jun 18, 2024 16:11:11 GMT -5
I wonder if there could be an early window for coaches and players to talk and for players to receive offers, and then a later date at which these commitments can start happening. It would require the commitments be a bit more official and binding, which I guess would be hard to normalize across institutions with different acceptance criteria. A fix is in the works. All recruiting restrictions are on college coaches, not high schoolers. So verbal commitments will never be restricted, but they ARE trying to trying to have a window where it’s impermissible for a coach to make an offer. Yes, this is largely unenforceable, but if an athlete is unable to publicly announce a verbal commitment without setting off an NCAA investigation, maybe that serves the purpose well enough? Well, that's something I guess.
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Post by vbruh on Jun 18, 2024 16:15:02 GMT -5
I wonder if there could be an early window for coaches and players to talk and for players to receive offers, and then a later date at which these commitments can start happening. It would require the commitments be a bit more official and binding, which I guess would be hard to normalize across institutions with different acceptance criteria. A fix is in the works. All recruiting restrictions are on college coaches, not high schoolers. So verbal commitments will never be restricted, but they ARE trying to trying to have a window where it’s impermissible for a coach to make an offer. Yes, this is largely unenforceable, but if an athlete is unable to publicly announce a verbal commitment without setting off an NCAA investigation, maybe that serves the purpose well enough? This would work rather well, because the willpower of teenage girls to NOT post an offer would certainly prevent early offers from coaches. Hockey operates in a similar fashion so it's not like the NCAA doesn't already know how this works.
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Post by devilhorns24 on Jun 18, 2024 16:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 18, 2024 16:54:03 GMT -5
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jun 18, 2024 18:38:56 GMT -5
I'm much happier with this than 8 - 9th graders trying to make decisions. Seems like that's a better recipe for more transfers. And I say that as a fan that benefitted from Carlini's early decision. I assume you’re a Wisconsin fan from your username, and your point is perfectly valid when it comes to top 10 programs. However, the current rule makes it a mad scramble for another 300 schools. I actually agree that is marginally less bad for Top 10 recruiting. But commits in the first five days of being able to have a recruiting conversation to places like Indiana, Georgia and Ole Miss reeks of either (a) impermissible recruiting tactics and/or (b) uninformed decisions. “It’s nice to meet you, your offer is good for 24 hours” is absolutely happening and is not an improvement in my opinion. I think it’s a mad scramble for all schools and SAs, but let’s face it we’re talking about a market containing 300+ schools and 1,500+ athletes. How can a market that big (and with all participants being free agents) be anything but controlled chaos?
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Post by vballfreak808 on Jun 18, 2024 18:55:40 GMT -5
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