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Post by vinnielopes on Aug 8, 2024 10:34:06 GMT -5
It’s time we stop picking the best players and instead do an Olympic trial tournament comprised of multiple teams.
Each college program is allowed to field a team and U.S. citizen who played at least one season for that school is eligible to be on the roster.
We then have a massive tournament and the team that wins advances to the Olympics.
Please note, I’m just joking. But this would be a fun and horrible idea.
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Post by wilbur on Aug 8, 2024 11:43:45 GMT -5
Technically he was. Just with the B Team for the Pan Am Cup though he was rarely used. Andy Read (LBSU) was the coach and he had McHenry as the 4th option behind Gasman, Marshman, and Wetter. Ah. Must have missed him on the roster. Thank you! Also first time in history of olympics we're not taking home a medal in Beach... usually at least we get a medal on one of the genders. Not a great year for USA VB at the olympics.. Maybe the women upset Brazil?? Dang, this thread is too soon! Men are still playing fir the bronze which would be a good finish in this field and Women are gold or silver. Go USA! Men's beach finished more or less as expected and Women's beach is the only ones that fell below expectations. Swiss and Canada did play good matches to upset both teams. |
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Post by coy on Aug 8, 2024 12:03:14 GMT -5
During the first match of the tournament for the US one of the announcers said every pin was retiring from the national team except Aaron Russel. If that's true, the National team will be in a tough spot. None of the younger guys really excite me. Maybe that's because guys like Russel, Jaeschke, Micah, TJ, etc basically went straight from college and made an impact. We were spoiled with this current group. I think TJ is the one that is sticking around. Russell needs more surgeries. I think injures will force him into retirement. The one thing two things that may bring guys back for one more quad is the sour taste of that Poland loss and the fact that the Olympics are in LA in 2028. That might extend some of these guys' run by one more quad. But I think the plan was for a lot of these guys to make this their last run going into it. |
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Post by bbk on Aug 8, 2024 12:31:09 GMT -5
The best indicator is to take a look at the teams for some of the next 2-4 NORCECA events. The players on those rosters will most likely be in the mix for VNL.
Also, if there is a coaching change, will that mean in a change in the style in which the US plays? I don't think so.
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Post by alohavball on Aug 8, 2024 14:14:15 GMT -5
The best indicator is to take a look at the teams for some of the next 2-4 NORCECA events. The players on those rosters will most likely be in the mix for VNL. Also, if there is a coaching change, will that mean in a change in the style in which the US plays? I don't think so. we already have an idea of the players for the next quad, the concern is that the level of these players leaves a lot to be desired. |
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Post by xee on Aug 8, 2024 15:57:18 GMT -5
I think you guys are being doomers. Regardless of what our players say after the most emotional loss of their careers, the young-ish guys like TJ, Micah, Averill, etc will all be playing for Team USA in Los Angeles. It's a home Olympics, they all live around here, and want to play at home to win a medal. Even if they all take a year off, they'll be back
As for the prospective team, opposite is the only position I am worried about. I think we have some elite athletes and if literally one of them develops into a good passer for OH we should be fine. Flexen, Robinson, Rama, van Buren, and Sean Kelly will all be in the gym, and if a single one of them figures it out, it will be him and TJ on the left, and whoever the best athlete is left over can play on the right. One of them will be good enough to play opposite at an international level.
At middle, we will be fine. Averill and Jendryk will come back and we have McHenry, Ezeonu, Wes Smith who looked good as a 19 year old, and then someone else that gets better not on my radar.
At libero we will also be fine with Briggs, Merk, and whoever else.
We have good, tall setters in the NCAA. None are Team USA ready right now but they'll develop.
I really think we will be fine, even if you think we won't be gold medal favorites with the names I listed above. Not every team can be a gold medal favorite, and there are more depressing things than being a top 5 team every year like we will continue to be
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 8, 2024 16:56:12 GMT -5
agree
TJ, Micah, Averill are the 3 guys likely back
Garrett will not. I don't think Ma'a will be. Isaacson, Rowan, Slight IMO have more upside as a setter. Ma'a & Garrett certainly shouldnt be on there as serving subs, which is what they were, but enough about that.
Hanes & Ensign still have potential especially Hanes, but and a big but - we shall see.
Pasteur.
middles. not sold on McHenry until his blocking improves. He's athletic but will have to develop more physical. Maybe Gasman, but not sure.
libero. Speraw seemed to be telegraphing that it's D'Agnosto. Briggs and him may duke it out but was pretty telling about Speraw's mind that he didn't have Briggs play in the VNL.
Speraw needs to go, enough. Of course he's a proven coach. The National team needs a dedicated unbiased coach right now.
it's probably gonna be a bit gloomy for the next year though.
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Post by myhouse911 on Aug 8, 2024 17:03:18 GMT -5
libero. Speraw seemed to be telegraphing that it's D'Agnosto. Briggs and him may duke it out but was pretty telling about Speraw's mind that he didn't have Briggs play in the VNL. I have no dog in this, but Dagostino played in VNL over Briggs because he is the current #2 Libero and if Shoji was unable to play in Paris he would have been on the roster... in 4 years time, that may very well not be the case. For what it's worth, by the time LA2028 gets here, Briggs will be the same age as Shoji was when he started in Rio. |
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Post by Timeless on Aug 8, 2024 17:13:37 GMT -5
I think Joe Worsley shoots his shot. He was French League's setter of the year. Micah can focus on the Utility role 2/3rd setter, OH or Libero.
Nothing against Slight but he needs to develop a hybrid serve.
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Post by wilbur on Aug 8, 2024 17:21:01 GMT -5
I think Joe Worsley shoots his shot. He was French League's setter of the year. Micah can focus on the Utility role 2/3rd setter, OH or Libero. Nothing against Slight but he needs to develop a hybrid serve. I would include Tread in the list of candidates if we are going as deep as Joe. My prediction is Ma'a will be the guy if he decides to stay focused for the next 4 years and fine tunes his craft. Otherwise it is between Rowan and Tread but both are early in their development and 2 years from now we will know much better. |
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Post by volleycoach2310 on Aug 8, 2024 17:48:04 GMT -5
Has Anderson announced his plan to retire or are you just assuming due to age he will? He may try and stick around. About 2 months ago, he did an AMA on instagram and said that LA 2028 wasn’t off the table He’s been one of my absolute favorites on that team to watch and I really hope that he comes back for one more! Big big fan of Christenson also! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2024 17:56:05 GMT -5
Don’t forget who ever is the next head coach will have a huge say in which players make it. Speraw was very loyal to his guys.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 8, 2024 19:25:37 GMT -5
I think Joe Worsley shoots his shot. He was French League's setter of the year. Micah can focus on the Utility role 2/3rd setter, OH or Libero. Nothing against Slight but he needs to develop a hybrid serve. I would include Tread in the list of candidates if we are going as deep as Joe. My prediction is Ma'a will be the guy if he decides to stay focused for the next 4 years and fine tunes his craft. Otherwise it is between Rowan and Tread but both are early in their development and 2 years from now we will know much better. Ma'a has had 5 years in pro to ply his craft. I really don't see him as the future setter, unless Speraw remains coach. Maybe if Ma'a had been a difference maker in the Olympics in any sort of fashion, but he wasn't, granted limited time. need a new coach, and setter is Micah's job to lose, or even be a back-up maybe. Just need to have an open competition for the next setter. it is a re-boot |
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Post by wilbur on Aug 8, 2024 19:46:55 GMT -5
I would include Tread in the list of candidates if we are going as deep as Joe. My prediction is Ma'a will be the guy if he decides to stay focused for the next 4 years and fine tunes his craft. Otherwise it is between Rowan and Tread but both are early in their development and 2 years from now we will know much better. Ma'a has had 5 years in pro to ply his craft. I really don't see him as the future setter, unless Speraw remains coach. Maybe if Ma'a had been a difference maker in the Olympics in any sort of fashion, but he wasn't, granted limited time. need a new coach, and setter is Micah's job to lose, or even be a back-up maybe. Just need to have an open competition for the next setter. it is a re-boot Ma'a has gotten better every year and had some good performances with the national team the last 2 years, before that he was not fully committed and was taking time for himself in the summers and didn't seem to be fully locked into indoor pro. I think he is the second best setter we have right now. Not ever getting a chance to sub for Christenson in this Olympics is not any indication of his future. If we had another legit OPP of Christenson had blundered more then maybe but this USA roster comp has no option for another setter than Christenson until the ship is sinking. I am glad we never saw him, the team has been performing really well. |
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Aug 9, 2024 16:46:15 GMT -5
Anderson wants to play in LA
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