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Post by reign69heir on Nov 22, 2010 23:26:07 GMT -5
There's plenty of room between the antenna and the net post. Going under the net that way saves at least 2 full strides.
I've noticed that plenty of officials are slow on the uptake of the more lenient net violation rules, calling faults on setters that hit the net with their bums after a set, especially.
It's my understanding that a net violation should only be called when contact is made with the top of the net, and only when making a play on the ball.
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Post by harryhotspur on Nov 22, 2010 23:50:47 GMT -5
That is also my understanding of the rule -- can't go under the net to get into the free zone. And neither the initial overpass nor the pass back from the free zone can go inside the antennas; they must go outside the antenna. Has this ever been done successfully? |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 23, 2010 0:01:22 GMT -5
That is also my understanding of the rule -- can't go under the net to get into the free zone. And neither the initial overpass nor the pass back from the free zone can go inside the antennas; they must go outside the antenna. Has this ever been done successfully? Sure. I saw Logan Tom pull off a nice example of this in the World Championships a few weeks ago. |
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Post by reign69heir on Nov 23, 2010 0:23:17 GMT -5
That is also my understanding of the rule -- can't go under the net to get into the free zone. And neither the initial overpass nor the pass back from the free zone can go inside the antennas; they must go outside the antenna. Has this ever been done successfully? Happens all the time, especially in the international game. It's so commonplace now that some setters can retrieve the ball and put up a pretty sweet set over the pin. |
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Post by hebrooks87 on Nov 23, 2010 8:31:14 GMT -5
There's plenty of room between the antenna and the net post. Going under the net that way saves at least 2 full strides. I've noticed that plenty of officials are slow on the uptake of the more lenient net violation rules, calling faults on setters that hit the net with their bums after a set, especially. It's my understanding that a net violation should only be called when contact is made with the top of the net, and only when making a play on the ball. That's the USAV rule. It comes in two parts: "11.3.1 Contact with the net by a player is not a fault, unless it interferes with the play.... 11.4.4 A player interferes with the opponent’s play by (amongst others): - touching the top band of the net or the top 80 cm (2’ 7.49”) of the antenna during his/her action of playing the ball" The NCAA rule is written in the negative: "15.2.1 Player Contact with Net or Antennas Contact with the net by a player is not a fault, unless it is made during an action of playing the ball, or it interferes with the play. Playing the ball may include actions in which the player(s) does not actually touch the ball." For a comparison of the NCAA, USAV, and NFHS net rule, see item 86 on pavo.org/Portals/0/docs/Rule_Comparison_%28NCAA-NFHS-USAV%29_10.pdf |
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Post by rogero1 on Nov 23, 2010 8:38:08 GMT -5
It's my understanding that a net violation should only be called when contact is made with the top of the net, and only when making a play on the ball. True only for USAV (club) and FIVB play. In NCAA play, it is still a violation when playing the ball or if it interferes with play. The above rule applies to the entire length of the net. Players may, however, touch a post, rope or other object outside the length of the net. |
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Post by Not Me on Nov 23, 2010 8:38:59 GMT -5
I've noticed that plenty of officials are slow on the uptake of the more lenient net violation rules, calling faults on setters that hit the net with their bums after a set, especially. It's my understanding that a net violation should only be called when contact is made with the top of the net, and only when making a play on the ball. I think you are confusing NCAA and USAV/FIVB rules. In the NCAA you can't touch any part of the net while playing a ball. That's the role quoted above. In USAV/FIVB, it is only the top tape of the net that is not legal to touch. |
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Post by itsallrelative on Nov 23, 2010 8:42:13 GMT -5
I think the NCAA changed the rule in 2005 or 2006. (from where I was coaching when the change was made). I'm about 70% sure it was one of those years....
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Post by Mocha on Nov 23, 2010 9:31:34 GMT -5
That is also my understanding of the rule -- can't go under the net to get into the free zone. And neither the initial overpass nor the pass back from the free zone can go inside the antennas; they must go outside the antenna. Has this ever been done successfully? Tyler Hildebrand of Long Beach State did it. |
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Post by lonewolf on Nov 23, 2010 10:19:29 GMT -5
There's plenty of room between the antenna and the net post. Going under the net that way saves at least 2 full strides. And even more on the R1 side. |
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Post by Not Me on Nov 23, 2010 10:32:36 GMT -5
There's plenty of room between the antenna and the net post. Going under the net that way saves at least 2 full strides. And even more on the R1 side. Huh? The distance between the sideline and the upright is the same on both sides. |
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Post by Keystonekid on Nov 23, 2010 12:26:53 GMT -5
I don't like the thread title. me neither, it seems a little graphic. |
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Post by lonewolf on Nov 23, 2010 12:33:53 GMT -5
And even more on the R1 side. Huh? The distance between the sideline and the upright is the same on both sides. Statement I responded to was that going under the net would save at least 2 strides. My comment of 'even more on the R1 side' is due to the ref stand being there....which would cause a longer path to the ball if you had to go around it. |
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Post by beachdude on Nov 23, 2010 13:50:36 GMT -5
Hebrooks, thanks for the link. It is what I was looking for. Itsallreal...thanks for the time line. The rule is very different from USAV and FIVB. You are allowed to go under completely as long as you do not interfere with the opposing team:
Player can touch opponent’s court with feet or hands, providing some part of extremity is on or above the center line. Players may also touch the opponent’s court with an entire foot or hand or any other body part(s), provided the encroachment does not present a safety hazard, does not interfere with the opponents, and some body part is on/over the center line.
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Post by bumpkill on Nov 23, 2010 14:28:40 GMT -5
Sorry if I missed someone posting this, but I think you can pursuit the ball under the net now as opposed to having to run around the court. You may not step in the opponents court while doing so.
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