beachdude
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Post by beachdude on Nov 22, 2010 21:27:33 GMT -5
The NCAA women have a more liberal interpretation of center line penetration--they are allowed inadvertent "unders." Does anybody know when they changed this rule? What year/season specifically?
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 22, 2010 21:40:39 GMT -5
or even advertant ones in certain situations.
if on the first hit, the ball flies out of bounds and across the center line (yet still in the "playable area"), a player could actually duck under the net to chase it down and hit it back to her teammates, so that they can hit it over.
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Post by vballpac on Nov 22, 2010 21:49:48 GMT -5
or even advertant ones in certain situations. if on the first hit, the ball flies out of bounds and across the center line (yet still in the "playable area"), a player could actually duck under the net to chase it down and hit it back to her teammates, so that they can hit it over. My understanding is that the player has to go around the outside of the pole to play the ball back inside the antennas and then her teammates can play it back over the net. I do not think you are allowed to pursue the ball by going under the net onto the other team's playing surface.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 22, 2010 21:59:51 GMT -5
if on the first hit, the ball flies out of bounds and across the center line (yet still in the "playable area"), a player could actually duck under the net to chase it down and hit it back to her teammates, so that they can hit it over. My understanding is that the player has to go around the outside of the pole to play the ball back inside the antennas and then her teammates can play it back over the net. I do not think you are allowed to pursue the ball by going under the net onto the other team's playing surface. That is also my understanding of the rule -- can't go under the net to get into the free zone. And neither the initial overpass nor the pass back from the free zone can go inside the antennas; they must go outside the antenna.
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Post by flyingMoose on Nov 22, 2010 22:02:42 GMT -5
or even advertant ones in certain situations. if on the first hit, the ball flies out of bounds and across the center line (yet still in the "playable area"), a player could actually duck under the net to chase it down and hit it back to her teammates, so that they can hit it over. My understanding is that the player has to go around the outside of the pole to play the ball back inside the antennas and then her teammates can play it back over the net. I do not think you are allowed to pursue the ball by going under the net onto the other team's playing surface. I don't think this was the OP's intended subject, but new this year ... www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/VBR11.pdfFrom Page 11: 8. Ball Crossing the Net (“Pursuit Rule”): If a ball has crossed to the opponent’s free zone that is pursuable per this rule, a player is no longer restricted from crossing under the net or net cable to retrieve this ball. The pursuing player may not commit a center line fault (see Rule 15.2.4). The opposing players may not interfere with pursuit attempts. From Page 78: 15.1.1.1 A ball that has crossed the net plane to the opponent’s free zone over or outside the antenna after a team’s first contact or block may be played back to a teammate, provided a center line fault is not committed (See Rule 15.2.4) and the ball, when retrieved, crosses the net plane over or outside the antenna on the same side of the court. The opponent(s) may not prevent this action. (See Rule 15.2.3.) Note: Rule 15.1.1.1 is not used in a facility that does not have at least 2 meters (6 feet, 6 inches) of free space between the net support (including padding) on the bench side of the court and the scorekeeper’s table (or other floor obstacle) and 2 meters (6 feet, 6 inches) of free space behind the first referee’s stand.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 22, 2010 22:05:02 GMT -5
How do you go under the net to play the ball without committing a centerline fault?
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Post by rolltexroll on Nov 22, 2010 22:14:07 GMT -5
(How do you go under the net to play the ball without committing a centerline fault?)
Between the antenna and pole
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 22, 2010 22:17:39 GMT -5
Between the antenna and pole Hmmm, OK. Doesn't seem like a lot of room, but I guess.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 22, 2010 22:18:46 GMT -5
NCAA Centerline interpretation has been this way for several years now. Safety is the main concern when whistling a centerline violation, if no opponent is in the area you can encroach the centerline.
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beachdude
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Post by beachdude on Nov 22, 2010 22:20:31 GMT -5
Sorry for the confusion. Real life example: If a setter after setting a ball goes under and fully penetrates the center line with their whole foot but does not interfere with the opposing team, is this a center line violation?
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 22, 2010 22:22:50 GMT -5
Sorry for the confusion. Real life example: If a setter after setting a ball goes under and fully penetrates the center line with their whole foot but does not interfere with the opposing team, is this a center line violation? Rule says: Encroachment into the opponent’s court with the foot, feet or hand(s) is permitted, provided some part of the encroaching extremity remains in contact with or directly above the center line, and there is no interference with opponents. It is not a fault to contact the opponent’s team court with the hair. Also: SITUATION 8: R1 runs toward the net, preparing to set her teammate’s first contact. The ball is passed poorly and as R1 tries to reverse direction to get to the ball, her right foot completely crosses the center line into the opponent’s court. No opposing player is near the area of encroachment. RULING: No fault has occurred. (See Rule 15.2.4.2.)
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Nov 22, 2010 22:24:53 GMT -5
Sorry for the confusion. Real life example: If a setter after setting a ball goes under and fully penetrates the center line with their whole foot but does not interfere with the opposing team, is this a center line violation? Nope - not unless there is a safety concern.
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Post by jayj79 on Nov 22, 2010 22:31:52 GMT -5
It is not a fault to contact the opponent’s team court with the hair. what if they have a really long braid, and they use it to whip or ensnare their opponents legs? (kidding. obviously that would be a fault, as that would impeding/interfering with the opponent, and just plain mean.... and dumb. but kinda fun to watch)
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Post by lonewolf on Nov 22, 2010 23:01:52 GMT -5
Between the antenna and pole Hmmm, OK. Doesn't seem like a lot of room, but I guess. There's normally at least 1m
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2010 23:10:44 GMT -5
I don't like the thread title.
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