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Post by bearwatch on Oct 11, 2006 10:42:12 GMT -5
Should be a great Texas shootout. Both teams are filled with freshmen talent. Many of them played with and against each other in club ball.
Baylors last 4 opponents were all ranked and 3 of the matches on the road. Hopefully this has made them tougher. This is a big match at home to get them back rolling.
Go Bears!
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Post by volleynut on Oct 11, 2006 11:54:30 GMT -5
Giving the edge to Baylor. A&M just not going to do it.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2006 14:51:17 GMT -5
I agree that this is really an important match for Baylor (for both teams actually), it's the kind of match that becomes a must win if there really is any hope of getting back into the middle of the pack in the Big 12 and have any real chance of making the NCAA Tournament. Maybe it's too late already, but I don't think so. A win puts Baylor at 3-5 in the conference with KU at Lawrence and CU at Waco next week - both of which seem winnable. And then they're 5-5 at the midpoint of the conference schedule. If they can repeat that in the second half of the conference season and end up at 10-10, I think they make it. I don't think a 9-11 will be enough this year.
However, a loss tonight for Baylor would mean 2-6 and really call into question after a home loss to TAMU if they are good enough to win at Lawrence or beat Colorado who has been playing fairly well (CU is 5-2 in league play) - at best they'd be 4-6, but more likely 3-7 (or even possibly 2-8) at the halfway point and just about impossible to pencil in enough wins to get them to 10-10 by season's end.
So this is the first of a number of matches they must have to keep there chances for an NCAA bid alive.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 11, 2006 14:54:21 GMT -5
To be eligible for post-season consideration, the team must have a record greater than 50%.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2006 15:06:23 GMT -5
To be eligible for post-season consideration, the team must have a record greater than 50%. I was talking about 10-10 in the conference. Baylor is 13-6 now overall, so if they finish the Big 12 at 10-10, they'd be 21-11 overall. |
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Post by baldyballer on Oct 11, 2006 15:20:46 GMT -5
I disagree that 9-11 wont get you in. Especially if it is a team like Baylor that has played tough all year. In fact, I think if your 8-12 this year and are in 6th place by yourself you should make the tournament. That's how strong the Big 12 is this year.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Oct 11, 2006 16:07:25 GMT -5
Will they have a good win? Up through SaltNPepper's description, their best win would be... Colorado at home?
I think they need at least one win against the set of Nebraska/Texas/Missouri. Personally, I'd put Oklahoma into that mix, but I'm not convinced the committee would. But if I'm Baylor, I would not want to go into the NCAA selection weekend knowing that my best win was against Iowa St.
No significant wins in their non-conference schedule. No significant wins so far in their conference schedule. Overall conference strength aside, I think the committee wants you to demonstrate you can beat someone who is pretty good.
Other top conference teams are in the same boat, but if it comes down to Baylor vs, say, Michigan, I see Michigan with a win over San Diego and Baylor with no big wins at all. That goes to Michigan (even given the loss to IU - the committee likes good wins more than they don't like bad losses)
A Baylor that is 6th in the Big 12 at 8 - 12 needs a pretty big win (Texas or Nebraska) or they are on the outside.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2006 16:30:06 GMT -5
I disagree that 9-11 wont get you in. Especially if it is a team like Baylor that has played tough all year. In fact, I think if your 8-12 this year and are in 6th place by yourself you should make the tournament. That's how strong the Big 12 is this year. If Baylor ended up 9-11, then I think the committee would really want to see some quality wins on their schedule, but so far if you look at it, it is hard to find any that might qualify as a "good win". I can't see any of these wins over what I would call "tournament" caliber teams. (A win over Colorado next week would be big.) And that's going to hurt them. They'll need a couple of wins over the top 5 conference teams to have any chance I'm afraid - and if the do that, they'll probably be 10-10 in the conference anyway. Baylor's record to date: 6 losses to Cal, Iowa State, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma & Texas. 13 wins over UC Davis, Montana, Louisiana-Monroe, New Mexico, Arkansas-Little Rock, Texas State, Arkansas State, SFA, Tennessee State, Houston (2), Kansas State, Texas Tech |
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Post by SaltNPepper on Oct 11, 2006 16:33:08 GMT -5
I should have read p-dub's before I dug up the info and posted mine. "Good Wins" is what it's all about when it gets close.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Oct 11, 2006 17:21:40 GMT -5
The most important, and most unfortunate, thing for Baylor is that good wins, of which they have none, matter far more than good losses, of which they have several.
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Post by long distance on Oct 11, 2006 20:59:24 GMT -5
A&M 3 Baylor 1
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Post by OverAndUnder on Oct 11, 2006 22:09:53 GMT -5
Oops.
Now Baylor really needs to split with Missouri or Texas or Nebraska to make a strong case for an at-large bid.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Oct 11, 2006 22:11:20 GMT -5
Baylor has no chance, as most of us suspected.
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Post by bearwatch on Oct 11, 2006 23:18:34 GMT -5
OK, I surrender. No more yelling, chanting, banging the BU drum. We looked unbelievable in game 1 in every aspect of the game. Then....... nothing....... everyone went into the toilet....... everyone played terrible......... We stunk............... nothing..............
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Post by vbobsessed on Oct 11, 2006 23:22:13 GMT -5
Chin up bearwatch. Baylor VB is going to be very fun to watch (and post about) for years to come.
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