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Post by LowVBIQ on Nov 15, 2006 15:31:58 GMT -5
Would someone please try to explain to me how regional selection works...How does one attempt to follow their team? I am more interested in the 'where' of it. Particularly as it might apply to Hawaii. Does the NCAA play 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide? How can someone not know approximately who, when and where BY NOW??? I know about the predetermined sights, but not how they apply to the situation. Please help. I am deciding how much money to pilfer from my children's Christmas fund for travel. Thanks.
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Post by ugopher on Nov 15, 2006 15:39:43 GMT -5
Rock, paper, scissors seems to be the method at times.
It can be difficult to determine who the NCAA seeds. And more difficult to determine where teams play. About the only thing you can feel confident about is that Hawai'i, Washington, Texas, and Florida will be placed in regions that would allow them to play on their home courts for the regionals.
But beyond that...
I still shake my head about '04 when MN was awarded a number 1 seed and then sent on the road for the first 2 rounds. They must have come up paper to the other site's scissors.
And travel arrangements can be difficult to make considering the announcements are not made until the Sunday prior to the tournament starting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 15:43:29 GMT -5
Washington played on the road last year if I'm not mistaken??
I think it's possible given RPI that none of the hosts will be #1 seeds, Washington has the best shot and is most deserving of a #1 seed assuming they win at Stanford and Cal. If they don't then it's a crap shoot. I think that's when the host teams get the shaft. The NCAA tweaks the brackets around the sites and gives a seed to make it work. Until the NCAA goes to complete neutral host sites this will be a problem.
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Post by thewacster on Nov 15, 2006 15:46:17 GMT -5
Rock, paper, scissors seems to be the method at times. It can be difficult to determine who the NCAA seeds. And more difficult to determine where teams play. About the only thing you can feel confident about is that Hawai'i, Washington, Texas, and Florida will be placed in regions that would allow them to play on their home courts for the regionals. But beyond that... I still shake my head about '04 when MN was awarded a number 1 seed and then sent on the road for the first 2 rounds. They must have come up paper to the other site's scissors. And travel arrangements can be difficult to make considering the announcements are not made until the Sunday prior to the tournament starting. how can they send a #1 seed away. thats just retarded. Teams play hard all season long to get a great record and ranking so they can achieve a #1 seed for a home court advantage. There should be a benefit for busting your butt, and that should be staying home and rewarding the team and there fans.
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Post by vbsamurai on Nov 15, 2006 15:47:41 GMT -5
hahaha how thoughtful and caring of ye miss or ma'am btw i didn't know yer married @ all haha
i believe after 9/11 they keep the locations to where the teams w/the highest rankings are to prevent 'unnecessarry' travels w/c in their argument would also minimize risks i didn't really verify and researched this info but that's what some knowledgeable ppl told me and even some of the coaches who mentioned something about the topic that's why i detest avca's rankings coz the western teams especially the pac10 teams get screwed they usually end up playing in some loser location and end up playing each other on the way to the ff4 while the loser teams given higher rankings end up getting the red carpet treatment every yr and just choke anyway legit teams are robbed of the opportunity to play deaper in the tourney because they beat each other b4 even going deeper in the tourney
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Post by thewacster on Nov 15, 2006 15:49:21 GMT -5
hahaha how thoughtful and caring of ye miss or ma'am btw i didn't know yer married @ all haha
i believe after 9/11 they keep the locations to where the teams w/the highest rankings are to prevent 'unnecessarry' travels w/c in their argument would also minimize risks i didn't really verify and researched this info but that's what some knowledgeable ppl told me and even some of the coaches who mentioned something about the topic that's why i detest avca's rankings coz the western teams especially the pac10 teams get screwed they usually end up playing in some loser location and end up playing each other on the way to the ff4 while the loser teams given higher rankings end up getting the red carpet treatment every yr and just choke anyway legit teams are robbed of the opportunity to play deaper in the tourney because they beat each other b4 even going deeper in the tourney this happened 5 years ago. they need to get over it and seed fairly again.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Nov 15, 2006 15:54:43 GMT -5
LowVBIQ, I sympathize with you. Many times have I booked tickets based on how the team was playing before anything was known.
Hawaii is fortunate to be a host for a Regional this year. That doesn't mean that they are guaranteed to be in it, as you know. What it does mean, is that if they _are_in it, the NCAA can make some money here. I expect that Hawaii will host the first 2-rounds. If they do that, then they will be placed in their own regional. However, the caveat is that Hawaii must win out. If they lose a match between here and Selection Day, then I count on nothing.
It was easier to do this in 2000-2003. I could say with absolute certainty that Hawaii would be in Final Four (except 2001) and in two of the cases purchased tickets in August when the price was low.
If Hawaii can play in the 1st and 2nd rounds like they did against New Mexico State in game 1, then they make the Final Four easy. No let ups allowed though, no game 3's.
If the Suckelection committee is crazy again, they send Hawaii on the road for first two rounds. I think that if the weather is appropriate (LA?) then Hawaii wins and goes home, if it is someplace cold, they may still win, but the regional performance will be in jeopardy.
That's my thoughts. Hope it helps!
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Post by LowVBIQ on Nov 15, 2006 16:00:06 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. The whole process seems very convoluted.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Nov 15, 2006 16:03:06 GMT -5
It comes down to one (2?) thing.
How much faith do you have in your team to win and how much are you willing to "gamble" on that faith?
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Post by scorpianraider on Nov 15, 2006 16:12:41 GMT -5
Hawaii will not host 1/2 rounds because the NCAA does not want to fly three other teams out to Hawaii when they can fly one team (UH) off the island and bus two others to a site.
When was the last time UH hosted 1/2 rounds? I am sure that team was MUCH better than this year's version. The 'Bows might be the top seed at a site where the No. 2 seed hosts, see Austin last year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 16:14:16 GMT -5
It comes down to one (2?) thing. How much faith do you have in your team to win and how much are you willing to "gamble" on that faith? AMEN!! I've attended 5 final fours and the Huskers have only made ONE.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 15, 2006 16:33:30 GMT -5
History isn't on Nebraska's side to make this final 4 either. they've yet to win a regional outside their own state.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Nov 15, 2006 16:38:11 GMT -5
Hawaii will not host 1/2 rounds because the NCAA does not want to fly three other teams out to Hawaii when they can fly one team (UH) off the island and bus two others to a site. When was the last time UH hosted 1/2 rounds? I am sure that team was MUCH better than this year's version. The 'Bows might be the top seed at a site where the No. 2 seed hosts, see Austin last year. As stupid as this is, it appears to be the case. Even when Hawaii had the #1 ranking in 2004 and was undefeated, they were sent packing.
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Post by Aikea on Nov 15, 2006 17:53:01 GMT -5
Hawaii will not host 1/2 rounds because the NCAA does not want to fly three other teams out to Hawaii when they can fly one team (UH) off the island and bus two others to a site. When was the last time UH hosted 1/2 rounds? I am sure that team was MUCH better than this year's version. The 'Bows might be the top seed at a site where the No. 2 seed hosts, see Austin last year. I'm guessing that Hawaii will host the first 2 rounds because the NCAA wants to make $$ on the regionals and keeping Hawaii home would allow them to have a better chance at moving on to the regionals. If Hawaii is not in their regional, the ticket sales would not be great.
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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 15, 2006 17:54:32 GMT -5
Maaan, anything can happen. Last year, Hawaii was sent off to Texas, of all places! They came out of it unscathed but still...Texas?!?! I just don't see them in California: the committee probably wants them to return home to host (and play) in their own regionals so they're not going to put them in the same sub-regional as Stanford or the LA teams. (unless they ship Stanford off, but unlikely since Stanford is one of the top teams and they're not hosting a regional this year and it would be "nice" if they at least get a sub-regional). Probably the Midwest or the Great Plains states.
Could Hawaii host? I don't know.
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