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Post by Wolfgang on Nov 21, 2006 13:39:44 GMT -5
Some teams you think are on the bubble...are really not; that is to say, they have no chance. Take, for example, some of the teams in the WAC.
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Post by BearClause on Nov 21, 2006 13:45:45 GMT -5
Assuming that Oregon & ASU do have the same conference wins, ASU played at a higher level in pre-season. Oregon did have an easy pre-season, while ASU faced higher ranked teams and won some good matches. It appears that if you are a bubble team in the Pac-10 the answer would be to play teams that you know you can win in pre-season. Oregon's highest profile non-conference win is Long Beach State. Arizona State's would be Notre Dame. Oregon's best Pac-10 win is at Cal. Arizona State's best Pac-10 win is Oregon. If Oregon loses out, they'll be 17-11. If Arizona State beats Arizona they'll be 15-14.
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Post by volley899 on Nov 21, 2006 13:54:17 GMT -5
Will Saint Mary's or San Francisco get in from the WCC?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2006 15:16:16 GMT -5
Pablo likes UCSB and Baylor much better than RKPI. Other than that, it seems like the same teams.
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Post by 2c on Nov 21, 2006 15:50:06 GMT -5
Will Saint Mary's or San Francisco get in from the WCC? Not StMarys, record <500. Probably not SF but they are a bubble team.
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Post by BearClause on Nov 21, 2006 15:56:43 GMT -5
Will Saint Mary's or San Francisco get in from the WCC? Not StMarys, record <500. Probably not SF but they are a bubble team. San Francisco is 22-9 with wins over UCSB and Sac State. They didn't crack any of the top teams in the WCC (Pepp, SCU, USD). so I guess they are firmly on the bubble hoping it doesn't burst. They do play Houston and (more than likely) Pacific this weekend. I expect they'll win out with a 24-9 record.
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Post by 2c on Nov 21, 2006 15:57:12 GMT -5
The committee would just explain it in terms of the criteria they have to use, which do not include conference ranking. That being said, I don't think GA Tech is a good candidate regardless. With their win over NoIowa, I'm wondering if it isn't better for GTech if NIowa were to lose in the finals of the MVC, thus also requiring an AtLarge bid for UNI to get in (which I do believe they'll get). If NoIowa gets an AtLarge, than GTech likely gets one also. If NoIowa wins MVC and gets AutoBid than committee doesn't have to 'justify' leaving GTech out and taking a team they beat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2006 16:01:13 GMT -5
Has the MVC ever received a 2nd bid? I don't remember.
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Post by GatorVball on Nov 21, 2006 16:07:46 GMT -5
Has the MVC ever received a 2nd bid? I don't remember. 2003, UNI and SMS(now Missouri State) made it.
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Post by 2c on Nov 21, 2006 16:07:59 GMT -5
Has the MVC ever received a 2nd bid? I don't remember. A few years. In 03, 98, 93, 82 the MVC had 2 teams in the tournament.
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Post by aardvark on Nov 21, 2006 17:35:33 GMT -5
So what do Kern and company say about the various bubble teams mentioned here?
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Post by leadbrain on Nov 21, 2006 20:08:16 GMT -5
kern won't say much at this point. you kinda just have to use the RKPI and go off the qualifying criteria. no one really knows what the committee would do at this point except the committee. the best way to go about is break down by conference, as idahoboy did in his ncaa tournament selections
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Post by oukaes on Nov 22, 2006 0:34:28 GMT -5
Iowa State should definitely get in ...my personal opinion...I think it would be ridiculous if they didnt
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Post by mauricciobal on Nov 22, 2006 0:51:57 GMT -5
THis is the deal with the Big XII...six teams are in for sure, but if Baylor wins its next two I think they should be in... Go Bears
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Post by volley899 on Nov 22, 2006 4:13:34 GMT -5
So if San Francisco does win out this weekend will they get in? I mean their strength of schedule was not very strong. So will they only take three teams this year from the WCC.
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