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Post by itsallaboutme on Dec 26, 2006 22:58:28 GMT -5
Actually, the paid attendance was 8,826  And a good number of Nebraskans were there despite the fact that the team was not. 8,826 is pathetic |
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Post by aaronic on Dec 26, 2006 23:19:08 GMT -5
Hopefully once Pavan, Stalls, and Houghtelling grad, Nebraska doesn't make the FF in '08. Like i've said earlier, Nebraska not playing a match in the FF could actually be more beneficial to them as far as future hosting/permanent hosting of the FF is concerned... I mean if they really do have as big of a crowd to attend the match as ppl here are predicting than it should show the NCAA and all the doubters that the Husker fans really are capable of making the FF a strong event---err.. you know what I mean.
Until then, we're going all probably going to have to agree to disagree on the subject.
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Post by beachman on Dec 26, 2006 23:20:00 GMT -5
Actually, the paid attendance was 8,826 And a good number of Nebraskans were there despite the fact that the team was not. 8,826 is pathetic paid attendance was right at 10,000....the no shows must have been the Nebraskans! ;D |
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Post by beachman on Dec 26, 2006 23:20:53 GMT -5
Hopefully once Pavan, Stalls, and Houghtelling grad, Nebraska doesn't make the FF in '08. Like i've said earlier, Nebraska not playing a match in the FF could actually be more beneficial to them as far as future hosting/permanent hosting of the FF is concerned... Until then, we're going all probably going to have to agree to disagree on the subject. i just love dreamers! |
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Post by aaronic on Dec 26, 2006 23:26:47 GMT -5
Hopefully once Pavan, Stalls, and Houghtelling grad, Nebraska doesn't make the FF in '08. Like i've said earlier, Nebraska not playing a match in the FF could actually be more beneficial to them as far as future hosting/permanent hosting of the FF is concerned... Until then, we're going all probably going to have to agree to disagree on the subject. i just love dreamers! For your info, i'm obviously NOT a Nebraska fan.... moreover you should talk, maybe it's just me but weren't you one of the many on this board who wasn't pleased with Nebraska getting hosting rights this year.... along with them being in the FF.... and the plausability of them permanently hosting future FF's? Get a life please... |
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Post by starsky on Dec 26, 2006 23:47:46 GMT -5
This gets so tiresome and old. Honesty time. The only places in America that can draw a volleyball crowd are Nebraska, Hawaii , and the upper midwest. Period. Many of you are arguing the point that if Nebraska did not make the final four then the attendance would be way down. The turn out would still be thousands more than many of your teams could produce frankly. Nebraska due to their success over the last several years seems to be the punching bag of choice. Go ahead. The facts will not change. NU will still draw the largest crowds and interest. If Nebraska does not make the final four in 08 the crowd will still be larger than most could ever hope to draw. Just accept it.
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 27, 2006 0:13:31 GMT -5
A little change of subject. I live in a small community in the western end of Nebraska. During the NU-UCLA match a wrestling tourney was going on at our local High School. In between each match the score of the volleyball match was being communicated. Many at the match were wearing earphones, listening intently to the radio and then mouthing " kill by Pavan," or " Stalls Kill," etc. All day the build up to the match had been discussed and talked about. In every newspaper, was an article letting fans know when the match would be on and about the teams. Nebraska fans not only know their own team members but the names of UCLA and Stanfords players. They are always complimentary to the opposing players. You can make fun of this phenomenon all you want but the truth is that we all realize that support like this for our team and for the sport of volleyball is something incredibly special. Anyone who loves the game should be applauding this uniqueness . Players could only be so lucky to get to play in front of thousands of these fans who truly understand and appreciate the sport and its complexities. Argue the point that the Huskers may have an unfair advantage year after year to get to play in front of the home crowd. That I could understand. But I have to agree with Starsky. Even without Nebraska as part of the final four the crowd will still be at the Qwest cheering the teams on.
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Post by beachman on Dec 27, 2006 0:48:27 GMT -5
A little change of subject. I live in a small community in the western end of Nebraska. During the NU-UCLA match a wrestling tourney was going on at our local High School. In between each match the score of the volleyball match was being communicated. Many at the match were wearing earphones, listening intently to the radio and then mouthing " kill by Pavan," or " Stalls Kill," etc. All day the build up to the match had been discussed and talked about. In every newspaper, was an article letting fans know when the match would be on and about the teams. Nebraska fans not only know their own team members but the names of UCLA and Stanfords players. They are always complimentary to the opposing players. You can make fun of this phenomenon all you want but the truth is that we all realize that support like this for our team and for the sport of volleyball is something incredibly special. Anyone who loves the game should be applauding this uniqueness . Players could only be so lucky to get to play in front of thousands of these fans who truly understand and appreciate the sport and its complexities. Argue the point that the Huskers may have an unfair advantage year after year to get to play in front of the home crowd. That I could understand. But I have to agree with Starsky. Even without Nebraska as part of the final four the crowd will still be at the Qwest cheering the teams on. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  |
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Post by uscyaaa on Dec 27, 2006 1:25:00 GMT -5
This gets so tiresome and old. Honesty time. The only places in America that can draw a volleyball crowd are Nebraska, Hawaii , and the upper midwest. Period. Many of you are arguing the point that if Nebraska did not make the final four then the attendance would be way down. The turn out would still be thousands more than many of your teams could produce frankly. Nebraska due to their success over the last several years seems to be the punching bag of choice. Go ahead. The facts will not change. NU will still draw the largest crowds and interest. If Nebraska does not make the final four in 08 the crowd will still be larger than most could ever hope to draw. Just accept it. I have it on good authority that Rosenblatt Stadium was pretty empty a few years ago after Nebraska went 0-2 at the College World Series so while the crowds might be bigger, it doesn't always guarantee that you will pack a stadium if the host team is out. Omaha has always been a wonderful spot for baseball and it appears Oklahoma City has not been hurting with softball. I would say it's definitely worth a look as it's always great to build a site over the years where everyone is looking forward to play at for a national title. The debate will continue to rage on for a long time, but I still don't understand why fans think there should be regionals only at places that draw fans. I believe if you are one of the teams that have played well all season long with a good record and RPI, you deserve to at least host the first two rounds (and yes, I know a few teams got hosed in the matter this year for example). |
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Post by jgrout on Dec 27, 2006 6:12:01 GMT -5
Where were the team sections at Omaha this year? At Long Beach we were stuck in the second level on a corner. Hardly conducive for a great atmosphere for attending fans. This year the team sections were in the first 10-15 rows on each side of the court and roughly even with the 10-foot lines. Other than being limited to 150 seats in each of the four sections, there was nothing wrong with the placement of the participating team's fans. The visiting schools also got 150 upper deck seats. At least at Stanford, they sold at face value. |
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Post by itsallaboutme on Dec 27, 2006 7:18:17 GMT -5
Wrong Beachdude....I got the numbers from the NCAA. Also, I know for a fact that the actual attendance was under 8,000 not the 8,826 that were paid. (NCAA STATS + I have a friend who has been in the LBSU athletic dept for over the past 7 years) Much better source then you.
The only game where attendance was a little down for a game was the evening game after Nebraska lost the afternoon. That being said, the record crowds have always been set when Nebraska was not in the CWS.
If thats true then that only makes my case not yours
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Post by holidayhusker on Dec 27, 2006 8:54:50 GMT -5
A little change of subject. I live in a small community in the western end of Nebraska. During the NU-UCLA match a wrestling tourney was going on at our local High School. In between each match the score of the volleyball match was being communicated. Many at the match were wearing earphones, listening intently to the radio and then mouthing " kill by Pavan," or " Stalls Kill," etc. All day the build up to the match had been discussed and talked about. In every newspaper, was an article letting fans know when the match would be on and about the teams. Nebraska fans not only know their own team members but the names of UCLA and Stanfords players. They are always complimentary to the opposing players. You can make fun of this phenomenon all you want but the truth is that we all realize that support like this for our team and for the sport of volleyball is something incredibly special. Anyone who loves the game should be applauding this uniqueness . Players could only be so lucky to get to play in front of thousands of these fans who truly understand and appreciate the sport and its complexities. Argue the point that the Huskers may have an unfair advantage year after year to get to play in front of the home crowd. That I could understand. But I have to agree with Starsky. Even without Nebraska as part of the final four the crowd will still be at the Qwest cheering the teams on. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Beachwear......... It wasn't meant to entertain you. Go put on your flowered shorts and flip flops and sun yourself. |
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Post by ugopher on Dec 27, 2006 9:28:16 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be true that any site could provide a home court advantage for a team in the FF? If Texas had made the FF last year, San Antonio would have been a considerable advantage for them.
With the FF in Sacramento next year and Stanford one of the favorites to be in the FF why is there no complaint about that potential HCA?
I go back and forth about making Omaha the permanent site. If NE fans don't buy all the tickets in advance I'm sure much of the slack would be picked up by other fans in the midwest.
And, I was at LB for the 04 FF. Don't think there were 8,000 fans in attendance let alone 10,000. But what do I know. I was in the school section in the second level. We needed a messenger to tell us what was going on down on the court.
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Post by SaltNPepper on Dec 27, 2006 11:04:09 GMT -5
I go back and forth about making Omaha the permanent site. If NE fans don't buy all the tickets in advance I'm sure much of the slack would be picked up by other fans in the midwest. I'm going to bite on this subject again. Had previously decided to leave it alone, but it is tough. When talk (a couple of years ago) first started about the possibility of Omaha being a permanent site, I thought it was a good idea, mostly as a Husker volleyball fan since it would be so close. The idea was being primarily promoted by Omaha with the University of Nebraska obviously in favor of it too. As we've seen various pros and cons posted and discussed in the print media and here on VT, my feelings changed, gradually at first and finally I'm to the point that I would be against it. Here are a few of my reasons. The AVCA convention that is part of Final 4 week, needs to be spread around the country so that members of that organization have periodic opportunities to attend when it is in their area rather that having to fly half way across this country every single year. It just wouldn't be fair to have it in the same midwest location every year. Plus, many of the members enjoy visiting a different city in conjunction with the Final 4 and after a few year "even Omaha" might get a bit old for a few of them. This isn't an issue for the College World Series because they don't have a coaches convention in connection with the CWS - or at least I don't think they do. I think having a Final 4 in ones own backyard should be something special- not an annual occurrence. I think it would lose some of that say the 5th consecutive year in Omaha (or anywhere). Then I'm sure you'd see a drop in ticket demand by locals when even continuing good teams by the Huskers will probably only mean a Final 4 appears on average of maybe every 3 years or so (they've been to 9 I think in about 26 years). Allowing Omaha to host every 4th or 5th years would basically guarantee every available ticket being gobbled up - they could have a lottery for tickets and that would be great publicity for the sport - and in effect help sustain the demand for tickets. The CWS is in Omaha every year, and while I've attended probably a dozen or so games in my life, none have been in the last 15 plus years. Granted I'm not as huge a baseball fan as for volleyball, but if the CWS were only in Omaha every 4 to 6 years, I think there is a better chance that I'd make arrangements to go to a few games when it was here. So what we need is a few more places that can somehow figure out a way to create the interest in their part of the country that makes going to a Final 4 something special that people will get in line early to buy tickets for and make plans to attend - no matter who is playing. We're pretty close to this already in Hawaii & Wisconsin has shown they can have an excellent turnout. But if volleyball's Final 4 is going to go to the next level, there has to be the perception that tickets will be tough to get if not purchased early so that early ticket sales will be high and the events start selling out long before December. |
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Post by lilred on Dec 27, 2006 13:29:48 GMT -5
I have it on good authority that Rosenblatt Stadium was pretty empty a few years ago after Nebraska went 0-2 at the College World Series so while the crowds might be bigger, it doesn't always guarantee that you will pack a stadium if the host team is out.Omaha has always been a wonderful spot for baseball and it appears Oklahoma City has not been hurting with softball. I would say it's definitely worth a look as it's always great to build a site over the years where everyone is looking forward to play at for a national title. Well, Nebraska wasn't there for the first 45 years and it just kept getting bigger and bigger. In this case it is better that Nebraska NOT be there (unless they win the whole thing of course), because of course you have that hangover effect. I've been attending for several years now and there are easily 10000 plus during the DAY games. So unfortunately, this unique example doesn't prove anything. The results without Nebraska speak for themselves. The stands are in fact packed WITHOUT Nebraska there. So the issue here is not whether Nebraska volleyball fans will show up to watch 4 other teams, I think they will. It is however, fair to assume that if the actual Nebraska team makes it and loses, then yes there will be quite a drop off than if they weren't there in the first place. Just human nature. |
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And a good number of Nebraskans were there despite the fact that the team was not.
