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Post by bigfan on May 1, 2007 15:32:07 GMT -5
It will not change anything.................they can still E-Mail
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2007 15:42:25 GMT -5
And telepathy.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on May 1, 2007 16:58:05 GMT -5
It will not change anything.................they can still E-Mail Email doesn't charge by the message received. Why should a recruit have to pay $50 just because some annoying coach keeps texting them?
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Post by baldyballer on May 1, 2007 23:56:36 GMT -5
I think this whole arguement stinks and is unnecessary! The main gripe against texting is that it is overwelming for recruits and is getting too personal and too often- what BS. Here is an idea for those poor overwelmed student athletes- don't give your cell number to coaches!!!! Or simply tell colleges that you don't have or respond to texts. Most schools will respond positively. I can't wait to give my two cents at our next general meeting. Texting helps otherwise shy kids express themselves until other means of communication feels right. It is also an opportunity to get an immediate response, and get to know the personality of the kid besides a cold email every three days. The NCAA needs to quit coddling these athletes and have THEM be responsible for the cell phones their parents have given them.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on May 2, 2007 8:42:48 GMT -5
Why not put time restrictions on text messages like they do with phone calls?
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Post by ESTRELLA on May 2, 2007 13:08:33 GMT -5
I think this whole arguement stinks and is unnecessary! The main gripe against texting is that it is overwelming for recruits and is getting too personal and too often- what BS. Here is an idea for those poor overwelmed student athletes- don't give your cell number to coaches!!!! Or simply tell colleges that you don't have or respond to texts. Most schools will respond positively. I can't wait to give my two cents at our next general meeting. Texting helps otherwise shy kids express themselves until other means of communication feels right. It is also an opportunity to get an immediate response, and get to know the personality of the kid besides a cold email every three days. The NCAA needs to quit coddling these athletes and have THEM be responsible for the cell phones their parents have given them. Baldy, what kind of argument is that? You say that the main gripe against texting is that it is overwelming for recruits and is getting too personal and too often, but then you tell the students not to give the schools their cell phone numbers. Then you go on making fun of student athletes as being overwhelemed......like they are the ones that are whinning about (which I doubt). I just can't get were you are coming from. You say that texting helps shy kids express themselves until other means of communication feels right. Hey.....how did the shy kids communicate in the past when text meesaging was not available? It is called e-mail, phone call or even mail. Isn't texting a form of electronic correspondance just like e-mail? Yes it is! That a text meesage provides an opportunity to get an immediate response, yes.....just like e-mail. If e-mail is cold so should be texting! The NCAA does not need to quit coddling the athletes.....we do! Lets get real......text meesaging does not provide anything different that any other vehicle communication provides. ESTRELLA
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2007 13:39:00 GMT -5
Let's really get real. Text messaging is much more insistent. Like someone knocking on your front door every 15 minutes.
Aren't their restrictions against phone calls? How is this different?
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Post by Wolfgang on May 2, 2007 14:04:17 GMT -5
there vs. their vs. they're
Another pet peeve of mine.
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Post by ESTRELLA on May 2, 2007 14:06:36 GMT -5
Let's really get real. Text messaging is much more insistent. Like someone knocking on your front door every 15 minutes. Aren't their restrictions against phone calls? How is this different? Ruffda, I agree it is much more insistent if you choose to anwser. Same with an e-mail......you allow to be as mush as insistent as you want. Not sure about the phone calls. I think you can call as much as you want, but with the only thing that they can't call you back if you request it. Now they can during your Sr year but I think it is just once a week. ESTRELLA
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2007 15:10:25 GMT -5
there vs. their vs. they're Another pet peeve of mine. Crap! I hate it when I do that.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2007 15:15:27 GMT -5
Let's really get real. Text messaging is much more insistent. Like someone knocking on your front door every 15 minutes. Aren't their restrictions against phone calls? How is this different? Ruffda, I agree it is much more insistent if you choose to anwser. Same with an e-mail......you allow to be as mush as insistent as you want. Not sure about the phone calls. I think you can call as much as you want, but with the only thing that they can't call you back if you request it. Now they can during your Sr year but I think it is just once a week. ESTRELLA Really? I don't think so, but I'm hardly up on recruiting restrictions. Hell, I can't even use "there" correctly.
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Post by baldyballer on May 2, 2007 22:39:32 GMT -5
Estrella, I'm just saying that the athletes have a choice to give colleges their cell numbers and can stop text messaging without the NCAA's help. The things I have read states that it is the kids that are complaining about it being overwelming. There is no doubt some lazy or out of date coaches may be against it as well but I think they need to get with the technology age as well. Text messaging is alot warmer than email. A kid checks their email about once a day, but has their cell phone with them constantly! I would say that makes it different than other forms of communication. And to answer your other question- kids didn't handle it before text messaging. They sent an email or letter periodically till their parents told them where to go to college, or they just stayed close to home to avoid the hassle (as a general rule). Giving the athletes the avenue to express themselves more and get information quickly is a good thing, and if you think it is not than just don't allow a college to get your number period. If you were a recruiter, which I bet you are not, you would be looking at this as another way for the NCAA to handcuff coaches from getting to know their recruits better.
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Post by OverAndUnder on May 3, 2007 8:42:20 GMT -5
A kid checks their email about once a day... I think you are greatly underestimating the email activity of 13-24 year olds.
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Post by Not Me on May 3, 2007 9:15:21 GMT -5
As a recruiter, i find that the habits of kids do vary greatly when it comes to e-mail. Some do seem to check it and respond on a regular basis. But most do not. Not sure how often they check it, but e-mail conversations with recruits often have 2-3 day lags in them.
But with Texting, they have their phone with them 24-7. Probably 95% of the text messages i send to recruits are responded to that day, and I'd say 2/3 of them are returned within a 1/2 an hour.
If they get a text, they look at it. I'm sure they are hoping it is from a friend at school, and not me, but they look at it anyway. Some kids are obsessed with texting. We have a sophomore in our program who averages 100 text messages sent a day. And i'm sure she is not the only one.
But this is why texting to kids can be a problem. They always have their phone with them, and they always check it. You can ignore an e-mail or a letter, but a phone call or a text is tough to ignore.
As far as cost goes, most parents learn that if your child likes to text, then the unlimited plan is a must. Most kids that I deal with that text have this plan, which is $5 to $10 a month)
Phone calls from coaches are very limited. Can't start until June/July (depending on the division) of their senior year, and even then they are limitied to one call a week. Players can always call a coach.
Texting, e-mails, snail mail, and IM can start September of their junior year. There were no limitations as to when or how much.
Saw a piece last year on ESPN's Outside the Lines about texting. They had one DI Men's basketball coach on who said he had one assistant who basically just did texting to recruits.
Keep in mind that information to college coaches is not just distributed by the kids or their parents. I have gotten plenty of contact info from club and high school coaches. So it is not just up to the kid to monitor this.
Text messaging is a great tool in the recruiting process. Unfortunately, as with many things, some coaches go out and abuse the technology, which requires the NCAA to feel they need to step in.
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Post by wolverine on May 3, 2007 9:16:30 GMT -5
Florida's Urban Meyer (football) claimed to send some 50-75 text messages a day to recruits. Making a few assumptions about some days off (which is a big assumption), that's over 19,000 text messages a year. So this puts a serious crimp in his recruiting methods. But I've obtained secret footage of what they're doing at the UF athletic department to overcome this:
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