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Post by Tex_VB_Fan on May 20, 2007 20:23:49 GMT -5
During the scrimmages Engle and Murphy ran a very effective 6-2. I can understand why Murphy is getting top billing as #1 recruit for 08. Does it all and very well very much like Engle. Here's hoping we see this combination at Texas!
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Post by Nutter on May 20, 2007 22:42:43 GMT -5
Great to see 3 Trojans on that list, and more importantly Garrett and Roleder getting familiar with Carico's setting during the summer. Could someone out there please put the schools the othere non-NCAA kids have already committed to? Thanks!
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Post by baywatcher on May 20, 2007 23:42:19 GMT -5
Got to be one of the tallest junior national teams in awhile. A Klineman/Doris/ Murphy block has got to be intimidating, then flip it to Dosty/Garrett/Engle, and throw in Gibbemeyer and the others; could get the Thai team, which can't be too tall, thinking about dinking a lot. As I understand it international rules only let you substitute for a player once, and only 6 a game, so everybody plays all the way around a lot, by necessity? Could lead to a 6-2 almost by default.
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Post by cbrown1709 on May 20, 2007 23:55:56 GMT -5
Great to see 3 Trojans on that list, and more importantly Garrett and Roleder getting familiar with Carico's setting during the summer. Could someone out there please put the schools the othere non-NCAA kids have already committed to? Thanks! Taylor Carico - USC Jennifer Doris - Texas Whitney Dosty - Arizona Ashley Engle - Texas Zoe Garrett - USC Lauren Gibbemeyer - Minnesota Alix Klineman - Stanford Cassidy Lichtman - Stanford Tara Mueller - Nebraska Kelly Murphy - Undecided Kimberlee Roleder - USC Colleen Ward - Undecided
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Post by roofed! on May 21, 2007 0:01:59 GMT -5
Got to be one of the tallest junior national teams in awhile. A Klineman/Doris/ Murphy block has got to be intimidating, then flip it to Dosty/Garrett/Engle, and throw in Gibbemeyer and the others; could get the Thai team, which can't be too tall, thinking about dinking a lot. As I understand it international rules only let you substitute for a player once, and only 6 a game, so everybody plays all the way around a lot, by necessity? Could lead to a 6-2 almost by default. Will Dosty be the starting OH? From what I saw when Arizona came to Galen Center, her passing was pretty bad, and I think she was hidden in the passing receive rotation (the Opp was passing instead, and she was doing passing duty for the first time).
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Post by cbrown1709 on May 21, 2007 1:22:44 GMT -5
Can someone confirm that Lichtman made it?
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Post by cbrown1709 on May 21, 2007 1:26:54 GMT -5
I copied that list straight from the site. I guess someone reads volletalk, Lichtman has been added to it now.
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Post by baywatcher on May 21, 2007 16:25:34 GMT -5
Don't know if Dosty will start; from what I saw last year her passing was a bit shaky, as was her hitting out of system; just put her in because she has Hookeresq ups and it would be entertaining to see that block set up. If the international rules force everybody to play all around she may not play much.
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Post by Murina on May 21, 2007 16:26:08 GMT -5
During the scrimmages Engle and Murphy ran a very effective 6-2. I can understand why Murphy is getting top billing as #1 recruit for 08. Does it all and very well very much like Engle. Here's hoping we see this combination at Texas! I'm starting to get interested to see how this team will play. A 6-2 does make some sense. I would think a Cuba style low risk receiving strategy would make a lot of sense (high arching pass 2-7 feet from the net being the goal), with fairly quick sets to the antennas and maybe a pipe from the back row outside hitter. I'm afraid that the USA will still be one of the higher reception error teams in the tournament. When USA serves, I see a team in the mold of the Karpol era Russian teams that serves super tough, blocks, and most importantly turns medium and slow speed opponent attacks into almost sure points. The big problem with this is managing the risk at the service line - especially if the USA really is a high reception error team.
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Post by Gelatinous Mass on May 21, 2007 16:47:27 GMT -5
Klineman, Murphy and Engle can all pass well enough...just have to find a passer for the other OH spot...Maybe Lichtman will end up playing all the way around? Seems to me like a lot of the familiar Libero names are missing from this list......
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Post by OverAndUnder on May 21, 2007 17:22:42 GMT -5
Got to be one of the tallest junior national teams in awhile. A Klineman/Doris/ Murphy block has got to be intimidating, then flip it to Dosty/Garrett/Engle, and throw in Gibbemeyer and the others; could get the Thai team, which can't be too tall, thinking about dinking a lot. As I understand it international rules only let you substitute for a player once, and only 6 a game, so everybody plays all the way around a lot, by necessity? Could lead to a 6-2 almost by default. If past results are any indication, look for this team to place very high now, then in seven years when all the same names are on the NT, they will underperform because they spent their remaining three crucial training years playing juniors and NCAA instead of playing up, while their international competitors spent that same time playing against 28-year-old professionals. It's like the difference between the grade-level based public education of "No Child Left Behind" where we stop everything until the slowest kids can be trained to achieve average test scores, and Montessori education where each child is tracked individually and presented with the next level of challenge as soon as the teacher observes that the student has mastered the present curriculum.
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Post by Murina on May 21, 2007 18:35:18 GMT -5
In my mind, the U18's tend to do reasonably well in the world, but the U20's don't do very well. I think this is due in large part to the reasons you mention already happening.
For example: Natalia Pereira has been named to both the senior and junior national teams for Brazil, but I expect we'll see her in Thailand. She was the second leading scorer in the Superliga this year! Tandara Caixeta was also in the top 20. About half of the players listed in the Brazilian JNT were on Superliga rosters last year (most were substitutes for their teams).
If Croatia makes it to Thailand, two of their players were on first division teams in Italy this year - the setter even started a match or two due to injury. Croatia should book their ticket to Thailand easily.
If Turkey makes it, several of their players have been starting in their first division this year (some longer than that). Turkey is going to have to upset Russia in Moscow to book their ticket to Thailand.
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Post by baywatcher on May 22, 2007 1:10:29 GMT -5
No pro leagues here, so are the college age kids supposed to skip school and go sit the bench in overseas leagues? Or go to the USA training camp, where there are no older players, who are playing overseas and making money: I could easily be missing the point,k but it doesn't look like an 18-22 year old player has a lot of other choices besides NCAA in the US.
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Post by jgrout on May 22, 2007 3:38:16 GMT -5
A question about Taylor Carico.... Do the folks on this board really think she is really all that good? At Maples last year, 'SC's passing was spot-on, Carico was effectively distributing the ball and the Trojans' hitting percentage on first attacks was amazing. Watching 'SC's offense that night was like watching a major league pitcher throwing four different pitches for strikes.
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