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Post by ladeda on Jul 24, 2007 13:50:48 GMT -5
Just keepitethical
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Post by iknowiu on Jul 24, 2007 14:27:07 GMT -5
Changes are a way of life...and certainly some programs have more than others. That is all the more reason student athletes need to choose the best academic/school match above all else. There will always be those for whom the program choice is ALL about volleyball. That is like taking a job just for the money--and not because it's a good match, a challenge, etc.
IMO, the smartest coaches know that an unhappy player is not a plus (even if the coach is the bigger part of the problem). Thinking of it as an employment situation, would you want to stay at a company where your talent/personality was a poor match? .
Let the player leave...and raise the esteem of your institution/program in the eyes of parents and future players. And, by the way...there are coaches who do what they can to get players to leave...another topic, sadly.
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Post by pogoball on Jul 24, 2007 20:51:42 GMT -5
While I understand that student - athletes have an obligation to their team and school that helped fund their education, ultimately, academics should dictate whether a transfer is acceptable or not. Thus, if a student decides in their 2nd year that they wanted to go into journalism and the school does not offer a program in this discipline, then a transfer should be authorized without question. However, requests to transfer because of the player's or parent's perception of better volleyball elsewhere is really a lame excuse that should not be an acceptable reason for transfering. To support transfers based on student - athlete's sports interests sends the wrong message as to key reason students go to college in the first place. What about a student's feeling that their participation in a particular volleyball program is adversely effecting their ability to be good students, but that they need a scholarship to continue with their education? In this scenario, which I believe describes many transfer situations, I believe that it is academics that are dictating the transfer.
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Post by Chance on Jul 24, 2007 21:28:07 GMT -5
While I understand that student - athletes have an obligation to their team and school that helped fund their education, ultimately, academics should dictate whether a transfer is acceptable or not. Thus, if a student decides in their 2nd year that they wanted to go into journalism and the school does not offer a program in this discipline, then a transfer should be authorized without question. However, requests to transfer because of the player's or parent's perception of better volleyball elsewhere is really a lame excuse that should not be an acceptable reason for transfering. To support transfers based on student - athlete's sports interests sends the wrong message as to key reason students go to college in the first place. How would transfers be handled if we had some assanine matching system?
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Post by inpraesenti on Jul 24, 2007 21:57:54 GMT -5
Too bad that there is so much boredom right now that the Noll/Mizzou incident has made an appearance. Get over it folks. It happened 2 years ago. All parties involved learned some lessons. Just remember, Missouri did not go publically with "their side of the story." They did not use these boards to crucify Ms Noll or her family. Please put it to rest.
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Jul 24, 2007 22:12:43 GMT -5
Too bad that there is so much boredom right now that the Noll/Mizzou incident has made an appearance. Get over it folks. It happened 2 years ago. All parties involved learned some lessons. Just remember, Missouri did not go publically with "their side of the story." They did not use these boards to crucify Ms Noll or her family. Please put it to rest. "All parties involved learned some lessons." And you know this because...? Have there been other transfers since this incident? And just because the Kreklows didn't explain themselves on here doesn't mean we can't draw our own conclusions based on what we have, however flawed that might be.
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Post by morkfromork on Jul 24, 2007 23:17:32 GMT -5
Geez, stop it with the return to Mizzou bashing. The Kreklows are good people. This was a mistake, time to move on. On to the topic of Transfers. Usually you hear about some top Junior College prospects coming into the Division 1 scence but not much talk about that. Who are the top girls from this group?
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Post by inpraesenti on Jul 25, 2007 19:54:44 GMT -5
Thank you morkfromork!
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Post by AntennaMagnet on Jul 26, 2007 10:53:54 GMT -5
Yes, I guess mistakes are made, but sometimes coaches forget that these programs exist for the benefit of the students, not for the benefit of the coach's career, and when coach's lose site of the fact that sports program are all about students and not about them, then it is probably time to move onto a new career.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 26, 2007 13:31:03 GMT -5
This was a mistake, time to move on. morkformork=Alberto Gonzales? Its an intriguing postulate. "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them."---George Santayana
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Post by agvball on Jul 26, 2007 21:32:00 GMT -5
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Post by Bluto on Jul 27, 2007 8:32:34 GMT -5
This was a mistake, time to move on. morkformork=Alberto Gonzales? Its an intriguing postulate. "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them."---George Santayana "Oye como va" - Carlos Santana
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Post by agvball on Jul 27, 2007 9:31:17 GMT -5
Heather Royal - technically at Ohio State last year will be on the Arkansas roster this year.
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Post by morkfromork on Jul 28, 2007 23:28:36 GMT -5
This was a mistake, time to move on. morkformork=Alberto Gonzales? Its an intriguing postulate. "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them."---George Santayana I'm sure everyone learned a lesson. Anyone see the setter who transferred to TX A&M. Is she Big 12 good?
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Post by parrotthead on Aug 5, 2007 15:44:09 GMT -5
Missy Stidman is on Sac. States roster from St. Mary's for her senior year.
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