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Post by vbfan4life on Sept 17, 2007 1:02:12 GMT -5
i know this is a long shot, but what are the chances that pacific will get some points now that they won 2 tourneys and beat both LMU and OSU
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Sept 17, 2007 2:02:35 GMT -5
AVCA's summary:
CSTV/AVCA Top 25 Matchups
#1 Nebraska def. #7 Texas 3-0
#2 Stanford def. #3 Penn State 3-2
#3 Penn State lost to #2 Stanford 2-3
#4 Southern California def. #20 Ohio State 3-2
#5 UCLA def. #18 San Diego 3-2
#7 Texas lost to #1 Nebraska 0-3
#11 California def. #22 Santa Clara 3-0
#18 San Diego lost to #5 UCLA 2-3
#20 Ohio State lost to #4 Southern California
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#22 Santa Clara lost to #11 California 0-3
CSTV/AVCA Top 25 Unranked Losses
#12 BYU lost to UNLV 0-3
#14 Cal Poly lost to Xavier 2-3
#14 Cal Poly lost to Sacramento State 1-3
#17 Ohio lost to Long Beach State 2-3
#20 Ohio State lost to Oregon 0-3
#22 Santa Clara lost to UC Santa Barbara 2-3
#22 Santa Clara lost to Notre Dame 2-3
#25 Texas A&M lost to Iowa State 0-3
#25 Texas A&M lost to Oklahoma 2-3
Any mention of Purdue's win over Oregon comes a page later, under "Other teams receiving votes". It sucks, but when Oregon moves up, Purdue won't be able to ride their coattails very much. Now, if they'd won after Oregon was ranked, that would be different.
My predictions: BYU, Ohio and tOSU drop a little. Cal Poly drops a lot. Santa Clara and TAMU are no longer ranked.
That alone would get NMSU and Oregon ranked. The weekend's results may help Oregon debut at 23 or something. Purdue gains a few votes, but LBSU gains more. It's an interesting question whether LBSU gains enough to be ranked (overtaking NMSU) but I'm guessing they won't.
As for Pacific? Well, whoever was voting for Loyola Marymount may put Pacific on their list now. Who knows how many actually will though.
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Post by utexrulz23 on Sept 17, 2007 2:15:14 GMT -5
Judging by that...A&M, Santa Clara, and OSU should no longer be ranked...
Anyone think Texas will move down at all?
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Sept 17, 2007 4:16:01 GMT -5
Anyone think Texas will move down at all? Not me. There's no penalty for failing to upset the defending national champion. Nobody in the top 10, including Texas, has given the AVCA voters a reason to change their votes. The "moving" will all happen among the lower-ranked teams. |
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Post by network155 on Sept 17, 2007 6:12:23 GMT -5
i know this is a long shot, but what are the chances that pacific will get some points now that they won 2 tourneys and beat both LMU and OSU They will receive some votes, but will not be in the Top 25 anytime soon. Those 2 victories are quality wins nonetheless. Anyone think Texas will move down at all? Not me. There's no penalty for failing to upset the defending national champion. Nobody in the top 10, including Texas, has given the AVCA voters a reason to change their votes. The "moving" will all happen among the lower-ranked teams. I think Washington will definitely be moving up the polls, don't know where exactly, they are playing very good volleyball right now. |
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Post by bigfan on Sept 17, 2007 9:43:45 GMT -5
Santa Clara is out....LBSU should be in it.
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Post by duhnderdawg on Sept 17, 2007 9:50:41 GMT -5
Isn't every AVCA poll release day a &quo t;moving" day according to your definition? No, not really. Sometimes there is very little movement, like last week. I think the biggest move was 5 spots and only one school dropped out - MTSU to let TAMU in, which was in my opinion a mistake. I'm probably wrong, but I'm expecting a lot more movement this week. |
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Post by parrotthead on Sept 17, 2007 10:41:39 GMT -5
UNLV should receive a few votes as they have wins over Loyola , UCSB, and now BYU & Utah in the same weekend. (a record for them)
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Post by eastcoastbias on Sept 17, 2007 11:45:27 GMT -5
(snip) ...I suspect though that Oregon's win over tOSU is going to be much more visible than their loss to Purdue. It's not fair, but Oregon may be ranked tomorrow, without Purdue getting many more votes. That doesn't sound very fair. It is supposed to not punish you for losses that are supposed to happen (USC) and promote you for good wins (Oregon) But I definitely see Oregon in there and probably not Purdue. I can't wait for the Big Ten and Pac 10 seasons, we will see a lot of stuff shake out. |
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Post by Ye Olde Dawg on Sept 17, 2007 13:05:47 GMT -5
I think Washington will definitely be moving up the polls, don't know where exactly, they are playing very good volleyball right now. They may. I know I'd certainly like to see it. All I'm saying is that it won't happen this week. |
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Post by runninrebel44 on Sept 17, 2007 13:57:46 GMT -5
(snip) ...I suspect though that Oregon's win over tOSU is going to be much more visible than their loss to Purdue. It's not fair, but Oregon may be ranked tomorrow, without Purdue getting many more votes. That doesn't sound very fair. It is supposed to not punish you for losses that are supposed to happen (USC) and promote you for good wins (Oregon) But I definitely see Oregon in there and probably not Purdue. I can't wait for the Big Ten and Pac 10 seasons, we will see a lot of stuff shake out. Not fair, you're right, but true. This happens to a lot of teams. However, Purdue has Minnesota on Friday, and a win at 12th ranked, Minny, plus a win over now ranked Oregon will vault them back to the glory land that is the top 25. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 17, 2007 14:08:42 GMT -5
That doesn't sound very fair. It is supposed to not punish you for losses that are supposed to happen (USC) and promote you for good wins (Oregon) But I definitely see Oregon in there and probably not Purdue. I can't wait for the Big Ten and Pac 10 seasons, we will see a lot of stuff shake out. Not fair, you're right, but true. This happens to a lot of teams. However, Purdue has Minnesota on Friday, and a win at 12th ranked, Minny, plus a win over now ranked Oregon will vault them back to the glory land that is the top 25. More importantly, they'd be 2-0 in the Big Ten with a good win over a ranked team. Whether they are ranked or not is not as important as whether they get the recognition from the NCAA committee. Wins over Oregon and good Big Ten teams would go a long way in that direction. Actually, all Big Ten wins will be important to get that RPI up. That Utah match is hurting it pretty bad right now (Pablo saw that match as a close loss, albeit at home, to a good team; RPI sees it as a home loss (bad) to a 2 - 7 team (yeah, Utah has good opponents, but the opponents' opponents part of the RPI is not as significant as that 2 - 7 record)). OTOH, their Pablo ranking is creeping up. Up to 40 this week..! |
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Post by BoilerUp! on Sept 17, 2007 17:43:56 GMT -5
What is the richkern ranking? I wish it would hurry up and be poasted!  Purdue was 26 last week ... And are you assuming a win over IOWA to make it 2-0 ? I wouldn't take any big ten match for granted this year. |
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