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Post by Gorf on Apr 9, 2004 22:32:16 GMT -5
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Post by JT on Apr 9, 2004 23:10:32 GMT -5
More than a bit partisan, and at least in the instance I looked up, more than a bit misleading, imho. Here's what the linked article cites: [/b] BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02] ...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03] [/ul] Here's what the expanded quotes from the linked references say: - Before: They're both risks, they're both dangerous. The difference, of course, is that al Qaeda likes to hijack governments. Saddam Hussein is a dictator of a government. Al Qaeda hides, Saddam doesn't, but the danger is, is that they work in concert. The danger is, is that al Qaeda becomes an extension of Saddam's madness and his hatred and his capacity to extend weapons of mass destruction around the world.
Both of them need to be dealt with. The war on terror, you can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror. And so it's a comparison that is -- I can't make because I can't distinguish between the two, because they're both equally as bad, and equally as evil, and equally as destructive.
- After: we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th," ...
Bush, while seeing no link between Hussein and the attacks, said yesterday that Iraq was linked to Osama bin Laden's terror organization. "There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties," he said. Some terrorism experts dispute the extent of those ties, but the ties are not disputed as vigorously as the link between Hussein and the Sept. 11 attacks.
To me, it seems that "before" Bush answered that he could not say whether Hussein was a bigger threat than al Qaeda -- they were different threats, and they worked in concert. Then, "after", he said that Hussein and al Qaeda didn't work in concert in the 9/11 attack, though they did work in concert. No flip-flop there. |
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Post by Gorf on Apr 10, 2004 2:40:39 GMT -5
Is it any more partisan than the claims of Kerry's flip-floppyness?
I mostly thought the title of the article was "cute".
Besides, you didn't point out problems with the other Bushy Flip-Flops listed in the article.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 10, 2004 3:40:19 GMT -5
>-(Gorf)-<[} link=board=news&thread=1081567936&start=2#0 date=1081582839]Is it any more partisan than the claims of Kerry's flip-floppyness? I mostly thought the title of the article was "cute". Besides, you didn't point out problems with the other Bushy Flip-Flops listed in the article. Gorf when will you ever learn? You subject title is as inane as Edward Kennedy questioning Bush's credibility. Trying to shine a light on Bush will not erase Kerry's voting record. Your flip flopping links are weak in comparison to Kerry's flip flopping voting record. Heck when he even bothered to vote at all.  |
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Post by Gorf on Apr 10, 2004 3:56:08 GMT -5
So its okay for Bush to flip flop and not okay for Kerry?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 10, 2004 4:15:36 GMT -5
>-(Gorf)-<[} link=board=news&thread=1081567936&start=4#0 date=1081587368]So its okay for Bush to flip flop and not okay for Kerry? The "Flip flops" are hardly comparable Gorf. You are trying to compare the inconsistent voting record of a 20 year US Senator to that of a US President "Leading" the Country through one of the most challenging periods in it's history. Try to Steer me to an answer that'll please you, hmmmmm.? Sorry, I'm too astute to be fooled by you.  |
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Post by Gorf on Apr 10, 2004 4:37:36 GMT -5
You're funny..
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Post by JT on Apr 10, 2004 16:07:29 GMT -5
>-(Gorf)-<[} link=board=news&thread=1081567936&start=2#0 date=1081582839]Is it any more partisan than the claims of Kerry's flip-floppyness? I won't get into a debate on which flip is floppier. "We should elect Manson instead of Nichols. He didn't murder as many people." As implied by my post -- I didn't look into any of the others. Hmm... "Bushy Flip-Flops." Is that beachwear for Hobbits ???? |
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Post by Psychopotamus on Apr 10, 2004 17:14:46 GMT -5
The funny thing is that these insane dictators really aren't a threat. They kill off anyone remotely competent for fear that they lose power. So basically all they have are mindless yes-men. The real problem is with established nations like North Korea and China that have a systematic regime that hates America policing the world economy. Bush needs to stop pissing people off.
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Post by Gorf on Apr 10, 2004 23:15:56 GMT -5
Hmm... "Bushy Flip-Flops." Is that beachwear for Hobbits  ? I think I'd prefer Fuzzy Flip-Flops. Tis more alliterative. |
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