Post by Gorf on Apr 10, 2004 23:36:07 GMT -5
Lwood said:
2. Marriage establishes the family through procreation. Family names are carried forward by offspring.
3. Political science 101: The family is the foundation of society. The family teaches people how to govern their own lives. People who can govern their own lives can then participate in the governing of others. In other words if a people have no respect for authority and laws then government is useless. The family is responsible for teaching children to respect authority and laws.
4. Can homosexuals adopt children and teach them to respect laws and authority? Of course they can. Can homosexuals procreate and establish a genetic family tree? Of course they cannot.
Actually, homosexual couples can and do procreate and establish a genetic family tree.
Ever heard of sperm donors for one of the partners of female couples to conceive, carry and adopt (if necessary)?
Ever heard of one of the partners for male couples donating sperm for a female to conceive and carry their child until the male partners adopt the child?
6. Now lets look at the bigger picture. If gay marriage is legal then the government is saying the lifestyle is now a societal norm. Couple this with the hate speak legislation being pushed by the socialist left. It would then be possible to prosecute any person who teaches their children that their religion views homosexuality as wrong. Essentially the government could say a parent was abusing their child and teaching them hate. Now you will probably say that won't happen, it is too extreme and rational human thought will prevail. I agree that most people will respect other citizens first ammendment right to practice their religion. But history has also shown that a large group of people can rationalize horrorible things.
It would not convey it as being a societal norm, it would convey is being one of a number of societally acceptable standards.
Do scientists get sued for exclaiming that females tend to be smarter than males overall especially in specific age ranges?
Do people get sued for exclaiming that white men can't jump and can't dance?
7. I don't care what anyone does in their bedroom. I don't care who lives together. I care about any attempt to restrict religious freedom. There is a solution to this problem. Introduce bills into each state's legislative process and find an answer that fits the people of each state. I do not agree with a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage. I do understand why it is being discussed. Its because the people who want to change the law are trying to get it done through the judicial branch instead of the legislative branch. The Constitutional Amendment is a political response. The gay community needs to regroup and change their tactics in order win the support of the majority of Americans.
That's what Bush said he wanted originally. To leave the decision on gay marriage up to individual states.
Then he decided to push a bill to make it a constitutional ban against gay marriage.
As for the supposed Christians that are so aghast at the thought of gay marriages.
Aren't there statements in the Bible that says something along the lines of "Let (s)he who is without sin cast the first stone" and "Don't judge unless thyself be judged" and "Treat others as you would be treated yourself"?
Doesn't our national constitution contain something about a separation between Church and State?
If that separation is to be maintained then there is no basis in bringing religious arguments into the issue.