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Post by Lwood on Mar 11, 2004 20:26:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2004 8:50:37 GMT -5
Wow.
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Post by Lwood on Mar 13, 2004 12:28:03 GMT -5
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Post by islandgirl on Mar 13, 2004 14:26:31 GMT -5
That kind of solidarity is overwhelming and breathtaking. My heart goes out to the victims, their families/friends and the whole country.
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Post by just...theDH on Mar 13, 2004 19:21:54 GMT -5
Our paper said countrywide, 11 million people marched through the streets. With a total population in Spain of 42 million, that is unbelievably awesome. Makes me kind of bummed out that in a country of some 220 million, nothing even close to that occured here after 9/11.
Oh wait, people put flags on their cars for a few months...
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Post by vbfan on Mar 14, 2004 17:15:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2004 18:00:12 GMT -5
I don't think the Spanish Socialists are running, but they'd have my vote!
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Seriously, I have to think Tony Blair's days are numbered, too.
Good thing the world's a safer place with Saddam gone, right?
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Post by sIsam on Mar 15, 2004 2:31:21 GMT -5
Good thing the world's a safer place with Saddam gone, right? is it??
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 15, 2004 12:36:29 GMT -5
I don't think so. An overwhelming majority of Spaniards were opposed to the American objectives in Iraq from the very beginning. Although there was opposition to American involvement here, those people were not the majority. The Spaniards held the government accountable instead of laying the blame on those who were actually responsible for commiting the unfortunate acts of terror against innocent civilians. The terrorist detonated the explosives, not the Spanish leadership. By showing they can be swayed by acts of terror, the Spanish opened the door to more acts of terror against their Country in the future. If the Democrats win the American elections in November, it won't be because of their views on terrorism but rather it would be inspite of it. Their idea of Leadership is succumbing to the whims of the rest of the world, regardless of whether or not what the rest of the world wants is in America's best interest.
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Post by sIsam on Mar 15, 2004 15:37:35 GMT -5
The Spaniards held the government accountable instead of laying the blame on those actually responsible for commiting the acts of terror. What the Spanish did is open the door to future acts of terrorism. The attacks were very unfortunate but terrorist detonated the bombs not the Spanish leadership. At the risk of getting some heat over this, I've got to say that America's intervention to Iraq had NOTHING to do with terrorism. That was just an excuse to invade Iraq. (This is my personal opinion - I want to add here that I thought the Turkish Parliament should have voted for the US Army to be stationed in Turkey and use the TR border to enter Iraq) If GW and Blair think that they will be defeating terrorism like this then they're fooling themselves. Terrorism is an evil that needs to be defeated and this is not just America's problem. It's everybody's - the only difference being Americans became aware of it after 9/11. The world needs to work together - not against each other to be able to defeat this.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Mar 15, 2004 16:07:34 GMT -5
If GW and Blair think that they will be defeating terrorism like this then they're fooling themselves. Terrorism is an evil that needs to be defeated and this is not just America's problem. It's everybody's - the only difference being Americans became aware of it after 9/11. The world needs to work together - not against each other to be able to defeat this. Terrorism will not be defeated by people holding hands and singing Kumbaya. Peace marches will not deter terrorism. The World is already working together in dealing with terrorism on an Intelligence and Law enforcement level. What would you suggest the American Administraion do?
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Post by Lwood on Mar 15, 2004 16:19:53 GMT -5
Do you mean, you wonder if we will be attacked days before the national election? Or do you mean, you wonder if Americans will choose to elect an administration that will give in to what the terrorists want? Or both?
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Post by islandgirl on Mar 15, 2004 17:04:24 GMT -5
At the risk of getting some heat over this, I've got to say that America's intervention to Iraq had NOTHING to do with terrorism. That was just an excuse to invade Iraq. (This is my personal opinion - I want to add here that I thought the Turkish Parliament should have voted for the US Army to be stationed in Turkey and use the TR border to enter Iraq) If GW and Blair think that they will be defeating terrorism like this then they're fooling themselves. Terrorism is an evil that needs to be defeated and this is not just America's problem. It's everybody's - the only difference being Americans became aware of it after 9/11. The world needs to work together - not against each other to be able to defeat this. Exactly. There is evidence that Bush started looking into invading Iraq as soon as he was elected. It's clear now that the reasons he gave for it being imperative were bogus. Bush has done a lot to divide, as opposed to unite, the world against terrorism by acting unilaterally. It actually plays into terrorists' hands to have the majority of the rest of world questioning American motives and skeptical of his actions. His lack of international experience/knowledge was a good reason not to vote for him the first time -- even more so now.
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Post by Hadrian on Mar 15, 2004 18:24:55 GMT -5
Makes me kind of bummed out that in a country of some 220 million, nothing even close to that occured here after 9/11. Oh wait, people put flags on their cars for a few months... And on in front of their houses and businesses, some out of fear of retribution. The flag vendors did some brisk business. Ahh, capitalism at its finest!
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Post by Hadrian on Mar 15, 2004 18:35:49 GMT -5
Good thing the world's a safer place with Saddam gone, right? You were, of course, joking. Anyway, there will always be a new enemy. It's in God's scriptures to man. How can there be good if there is no evil? The U.S. govt will always find a new enemy of some form or another. First, the Native Americans, then the Spaniards and Mexicans, then Great Britain in the American Revolution, then each other in the Civil War, then Germany in WWI, then Germany, Italy, and Japan in WWII, then the Chinese and Russians in the Korean War and the subsequent Cold War, then the hippies, then Vietnamese Communists, then the hippies again, then disco, then AIDS, then Noriega, then Ayatollah Khomeini, then Colonel Khadafi, then Saddam, then al Qaeda, then so on and so forth, and if we somehow manage to survive the Klingon and Clone Wars, we'll be hit by a meteorite that will create a crater the size of Australia and kill us all in 3019! God save us all!
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