Why Democrats are sheep

[goGopherBill]

and everyone here is Foolish..
Look at this boards current postings...

Se anything negative about Democrats?
The previous 4 years had everyday posting about anti- Bush this and anti Republican that.

I said Cool....challenge the status quo..only remember what you wish for might be worst.
And please continue to challenge both sides equally as any PROGRESSIVE person might do.

But no.


No body mentions the fact that BILL from New Mexico in under a Grand Jury investigation...for the same reason that everybody wants Blago's head.
Both are Democrats.
Nobody mentions Caroline Kennedy interview went worst than Palins....and she is being appointed by another Governor who was appointed ..not elected.
We have democrats screwing up at every turn...and progressives say nothing

They graze peacefully like my sheep waiting for the sunny new day.

The national debt now means nothing since they are in charge.
They promise nothing but a new federal gas tax since prices are so low...

All this and the DRAFT..which I for casted.

All was set up by Historical past programs that democrats have ALWAYS followed.

What will follow now is interest rates in the 15% range in 2 years.
gas prices back to 5 a gallon with all the new taxes being added.

Corrupt Democrats will have their way for EXACTLY 4 years.

Then a Republican will run and even carry progressive voters who see the light of day and all those new "kids" who got educated into the Democratic spin ZONE.

Newbie voters will see ...just because you change the leader of the band...if the band is bad..its still is BAD...

and this Democrat Congress will rank as the worst ever.

so now do another movie review.

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Jan 5, 2009 9:50:18 GMT -5 goGopherBill said:

Nobody mentions Caroline Kennedy interview went worst than Palins....and she is being appointed by another Governor who was appointed ..not elected.

You know, I thought, you know, Caroline Kennedy's, you know, interview, was, you know, funny, you know.

[goGopherBill]

you know..you know..


thanks for the you tube post.


It isn't about being liberal or conservative...
Black or white .
Gay or straight..
religious or not.
City Vs.country.

It is about being competent.
About really caring and using public service as a way to make the community better.

The political vetting process is so screwed up.
Franklin in Minnesota...
Alaska senators..
New York...Mass. and Calif.

Look who was elected.
and what we got in return.

The political vetting should have a system...to weed out the frauds.
You cant run for higher office until you hold a lower office.


It would be like signing a person to a major league contract based upon what his or her parents did.

What his back round / history of voting was....who they were supported by and why..

You cannot expect people to serve correctly at the top if they didn't do so at the bottom.

We need to get passed electing a Senator based upon what a prosecutor did...as in Minnesota.

Being competent in 1 Field doesn't mean you have the ability to serve and lead in another.
It would be like a swimming star being signed to the baseball contract.

WE need term limits to throw out the corruption that seems to follow those who get elected.
We need OUR voices to be heard ....not the wealthy..the union big wigs...the industry blowhearts....

We need the press to report every night on stuff that matters..how our elected officials actually voted...their actual time spent on the job vs. play.

Only then can INFORMED voters make an educated vote based upon substance.

Not smoke and mirrors...HOPE and pride.
We get what we deserve...

and I for 1 ..deserve better,and I hope you do too.

[goGopherBill]

I LOVE IT.

A President from CHICAGO that knows nothing of corruption that swirled around him at every level.
2 Democratic Governors under Fed. Grand jury investigations ...
1 was a Presidential candidate and a Obama appointee.

A DEMOCRATIC FRAUD in MINN. for Senate ..Re count is painted with 25 counties having more FRANKIN VOTES than registered voters.

IT is A DEMOCRAT ATTORNEY GENERAL...election board Governor and Democrats at those counties.

You have A Democrat appointed legally in Illinois that a JERK from NEVADA (REED) another Democrat wont seat.

You have Caroline KENNEDY wanting to be crowned public princess in New York...another democrat.


Where have all those progressive minds gone?
Vanished into the past with Jack and the magic BEAN?/Cabage?

Common ...you knew I was not letting all you BUSH BASHERS off so easy...Defend ..what is not Defensible.

[soothsayer]

A DEMOCRATIC FRAUD in MINN. for Senate ..Re count is painted with 25 counties having more FRANKIN VOTES than registered voters.

First of all, FOX and the WSJ's claim is that there are more votes than VOTERS, not more Franken votes. Secondly, it's FOX and the WSJ, so naturally they got it wrong.

Don't let the facts get in your way, Bill.

[calguy]

"Secondly, it's FOX and the WSJ, so naturally they got it wrong."

Schadenfreude, you lost me here. Are you saying that FOX and WSJ are simply poor sources news? How do you feel about the Greater MSM - CNN, MSNBC, ABC/NBC/CBS, NPR, NY/LA Times, AP, etc. - are they fair and balanced?

[goGopherBill]

You forgot The Wall Street Journal.oops...You didnt...But I Bet the NEW YORK TIMES didnt report it?


Did anybody Notice BIDEN gave His Senate seat to a member of his election Committee?

WHO ?

What?

Why is a person given a powerful spot in Government ..setting him up for life without any VETTING PROCESS AT ALL ?

I thought our votes count, but NO..you hand power off..

Hillary wont resign until she is comfirmed... and then that position will be handed to a UN vetted person.

I hope all you Young progressives are taking notes why government is broke.

Elections can be and are Directed by the press...phony debates...

Election voter fraud at every level.
Old cronies getting power back by backing a NEW BLACK GUY.

Baaaa

[calguy]

Well, here's the WSJ editorial. Al Franken is not so funny...

The Wall Street Journal

REVIEW & OUTLOOK JANUARY 5, 2009, 4:42 A.M. ET

Funny Business in Minnesota
In which every dubious ruling seems to help Al Franken

Strange things keep happening in Minnesota, where the disputed recount in the Senate race between Norm Coleman and Al Franken may be nearing a dubious outcome. Thanks to the machinations of Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and a meek state Canvassing Board, Mr. Franken may emerge as an illegitimate victor.

APMr. Franken started the recount 215 votes behind Senator Coleman, but he now claims a 225-vote lead and suddenly the man who was insisting on "counting every vote" wants to shut the process down. He's getting help from Mr. Ritchie and his four fellow Canvassing Board members, who have delivered inconsistent rulings and are ignoring glaring problems with the tallies.
Under Minnesota law, election officials are required to make a duplicate ballot if the original is damaged during Election Night counting. Officials are supposed to mark these as "duplicate" and segregate the original ballots. But it appears some officials may have failed to mark ballots as duplicates, which are now being counted in addition to the originals. This helps explain why more than 25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote. By some estimates this double counting has yielded Mr. Franken an additional 80 to 100 votes.
This disenfranchises Minnesotans whose vote counted only once. And one Canvassing Board member, State Supreme Court Justice G. Barry Anderson, has acknowledged that "very likely there was a double counting." Yet the board insists that it lacks the authority to question local officials and it is merely adding the inflated numbers to the totals.
In other cases, the board has been flagrantly inconsistent. Last month, Mr. Franken's campaign charged that one Hennepin County (Minneapolis) precinct had "lost" 133 votes, since the hand recount showed fewer ballots than machine votes recorded on Election Night. Though there is no proof to this missing vote charge -- officials may have accidentally run the ballots through the machine twice on Election Night -- the Canvassing Board chose to go with the Election Night total, rather than the actual number of ballots in the recount. That decision gave Mr. Franken a gain of 46 votes.
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Meanwhile, a Ramsey County precinct ended up with 177 more ballots than there were recorded votes on Election Night. In that case, the board decided to go with the extra ballots, rather than the Election Night total, even though the county is now showing more ballots than voters in the precinct. This gave Mr. Franken a net gain of 37 votes, which means he's benefited both ways from the board's inconsistency.
And then there are the absentee ballots. The Franken campaign initially howled that some absentee votes had been erroneously rejected by local officials. Counties were supposed to review their absentees and create a list of those they believed were mistakenly rejected. Many Franken-leaning counties did so, submitting 1,350 ballots to include in the results. But many Coleman-leaning counties have yet to complete a re-examination. Despite this lack of uniformity, and though the state Supreme Court has yet to rule on a Coleman request to standardize this absentee review, Mr. Ritchie's office nonetheless plowed through the incomplete pile of 1,350 absentees this weekend, padding Mr. Franken's edge by a further 176 votes.

Both campaigns have also suggested that Mr. Ritchie's office made mistakes in tabulating votes that had been challenged by either of the campaigns. And the Canvassing Board appears to have applied inconsistent standards in how it decided some of these challenged votes -- in ways that, again on net, have favored Mr. Franken.
The question is how the board can certify a fair and accurate election result given these multiple recount problems. Yet that is precisely what the five members seem prepared to do when they meet today. Some members seem to have concluded that because one of the candidates will challenge the result in any event, why not get on with it and leave it to the courts? Mr. Coleman will certainly have grounds to contest the result in court, but he'll be at a disadvantage given that courts are understandably reluctant to overrule a certified outcome.
Meanwhile, Minnesota's other Senator, Amy Klobuchar, is already saying her fellow Democrats should seat Mr. Franken when the 111th Congress begins this week if the Canvassing Board certifies him as the winner. This contradicts Minnesota law, which says the state cannot award a certificate of election if one party contests the results. Ms. Klobuchar is trying to create the public perception of a fait accompli, all the better to make Mr. Coleman look like a sore loser and build pressure on him to drop his legal challenge despite the funny recount business.
Minnesotans like to think that their state isn't like New Jersey or Louisiana, and typically it isn't. But we can't recall a similar recount involving optical scanning machines that has changed so many votes, and in which nearly every crucial decision worked to the advantage of the same candidate. The Coleman campaign clearly misjudged the politics here, and the apparent willingness of a partisan like Mr. Ritchie to help his preferred candidate, Mr. Franken. If the Canvassing Board certifies Mr. Franken as the winner based on the current count, it will be anointing a tainted and undeserving Senator.

[soothsayer]

Something a lot closer to the truth:

mediamatters.org/items/200901060015?f=h_latest