Hey R..

[goGopherBill]

How's your stocks hangin' now.

Yep .
Elect Obama and see real change.

At this rate we wont need to wait till April .
The stock market will be at 6,000 or below and riots in the streets.

Calls for Republicans will be heard thru out the land as sheep continue to get slaughtered.

All those over 50 who voted for OBAMA now cannot retire.They will need to work for at least 30 years to regain what OBAMA forced the markets to do.

Those who are under 50 will never see social security as you will work just to pay off debt.

ROMNEY will appear as a white knight and you will love how he fixes everything in less than a year.

Without a ROMNEY FIX there will be riots in the streets this
summer.

History will kill the DEMOCRATIC socialist experiment as new rules will be enacted to prevent this garbage from ever being done again.

Calif..New York and all states will be FORCED into a balanced budget every year.
All workers will be processed and documented for tax purposes..no more UNDER ground economy.

UN documented workers will be deported back to their countries.

We may have another war with Mexico and this one will be complete.

and you could have prevented all this by voting Republican.

Change...?

no, ruin.

and even my I bonds and ecl wont save you.

[JT]

Oh yeah, Bill. If only we'd have voted Republican, we could have had McCain in the White House. You know, they guy who abandoned the campaign because it was urgent that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars right now now now now now!!!!!! to save the banks.

How're those banks doing, by the way?

The economy is screwed. It wasn't just (R)s. It wasn't just (D)s. It wasn't just high-paid executives. It wasn't just greedy pie-in-the-sky homeowners.
And it ain't gonna get better overnight, nor by April, nor by December.



Most states already have balanced-budget requirements. It's why many of the states -- including ones led by Republicans -- have their hands out for federal stimulus funds. Free money to make their deficits disappear.

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The one person who cannot be blamed for it is Obama. But that won't stop Bill. He's going to blame Obama and the poor, because that's what he does.

Don't come to me whining about stocks. The stock collapse: cost me my job, hit my 401K hard, hit my 529s harder, wiped out all gains in my IRAs, and pretty much did the same to my mutual fund and stock holdings. If that makes you feel good about yourself, Bill, great. Just great.

Have to love that Citi stock, eh?

[goGopherBill]

actually it hurts..

VOTERS need to know their votes have meaning and effects that are not always what politicians promise.

Your Democrats SCREWED up bank regulations...on the public record.

Your OBAMA ..every time he speaks the market loses another 100 plus Pt's.

Ya ..You haven't lost a penny compared to my loses.

Generations of my family saved and invested...never borrowing more than what we could afford.

Generations INVESTED in the market ,knowing the risk and riding out cycle.
This fraud gets elected and the nation crumples.

I am investing in ammunition,not stocks.

My whole 3 generation family fortune wiped out because he threw us out with evil BUSH babies.

I wish it would have been taxed..at ;least it would have helped something..know the money is GONE..lost fore ever..
It will take generations to re invest and recover.

The poor risked absolutely NADA..and what did they get?
Health care,housing .welfare and free lunches.

Ps..I hired better guys than the government has ..some of my money is safe..and You can never get it.

So think generators..ammunition...gas ..and defense of what little remains..

Wait till this summer.

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Bill, I just don't think any reasonable person can blame this on Obama. Yes, the market has fallen since he's taken office, but it was in free fall before that.

The economy is in the toilet because people were trying to make money from money. It's really as simple as that. They were playing games.

I, for one, feel a hell of a lot more confident with Obama and company in office than I did with W. It may be too late, however.

[cardcounter]

goGopherBill. I agree with many of your statements in the first post, but fundamentally differ on others. I don't think voting Republican would have helped anything. The economy and the government's response would be almost identical whether Obama, McCain, or a third term of Bush was in power.

Also, I don't see riots in the street this summer or any time soon. But I do see, in four years, the dollar becoming worthless, China refusing to buy our bonds, and a national debt that will be so staggering it will keep the GNP in negative territory for a decade or more.

There are a lot of people hurting right now. I don't agree with this philosophy that the problem is the "other" party; be it the Democrat or Republican party.

I am a fiscal conservative. Never owned a credit card (debit cards, yes) in my life. Believe in pay as you go policy. What I have seen in the last four years in the U. S. and my state of California frightens me. The politicians just can't say no to out-of-controll spending. I see no answers because, in my mind, the two major parties have become identical. I see no real choice.

[goGopherBill]

If all of you who watch closely would NOTICE, I am not blaming OBAMA
DIRECTLY.

I am blaming Government which THINKS it is better than us in dealing with monetary issues.
THEY aren't.
Obama is the LEADER of that party ...I would be after McCain the same way if this garbage had happened.

I posted before ..the last 2 years what is happening now would happen...using PAST history as my guide.

DEMOCRATS HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED government is the answer.

Republicans are the total opposite.

Yes Republicans spent like sailors on leave..for Defense and to support business which created many more jobs than OBAMAS spending will do.

Was Business up front and perfect..hell no..but neither are Democrats and government ..

And money and the nation prospered more under Republican
Rule.

You had money in 401 s and retirement plans..you have 1/2 now in less than 3 months.

The poor risked nothing and gained the most under this plan.

The Cato institute tonight reported that only 4 states have home foreclosure problems based upon bad loans..
Arizona,Calif. Florida..and Nevada.
Mi. problems are based upon corruption and the auto companies.

The foreclosure plan does nothing to relieve GOOD home owners..only bad ones.


This whole deal is easily solved...
CRAMMER..and many other news groups say the same thing ..get government out.
Make the foreclosure plan the same for everybody.
4 % interest rates..

Why doesn't OBAMA listen?
He is playing the divide card and pitting state vs. state, region vs. region...class vs. class...party Vs. party.


You all see it..it ain't what America voted for.

We all had high hopes...


Now I buy 22 shells and M+Ms...

and no free pizzas for anybody.

You could have voted for me.

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Feb 23, 2009 19:52:16 GMT -5 goGopherBill said:

If all of you who watch closely would NOTICE, I am not blaming OBAMA
DIRECTLY.

I am blaming Government which THINKS it is better than us in dealing with monetary issues.
THEY aren't.

Seriously? I mean, SERIOUSLY!? Who is "us" anyhow?

Obama is the LEADER of that party ...I would be after McCain the same way if this garbage had happened.

I posted before ..the last 2 years what is happening now would happen...using PAST history as my guide.

DEMOCRATS HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED government is the answer.

Republicans are the total opposite.

That's what they say anyhow. What they actually seem to believe is that BAD government is the answer. Not exactly the "total opposite".

Yes Republicans spent like sailors on leave..for Defense and to support business which created many more jobs than OBAMAS spending will do.

Oy. My head. My head.

Was Business up front and perfect..hell no..but neither are Democrats and government ..

And money and the nation prospered more under Republican
Rule.

It did?? Could have fooled me. Better check those facts again, Bill.

You had money in 401 s and retirement plans..you have 1/2 now in less than 3 months.

The poor risked nothing and gained the most under this plan.

There was a plan to pump 1/2 the value out of 401s? And the poor gained by it? Those bastards!

The Cato institute tonight reported that only 4 states have home foreclosure problems based upon bad loans..
Arizona,Calif. Florida..and Nevada.

What??

Mi. problems are based upon corruption and the auto companies.

The foreclosure plan does nothing to relieve GOOD home owners..only bad ones.


This whole deal is easily solved...
CRAMMER..and many other news groups say the same thing ..get government out.
Make the foreclosure plan the same for everybody.
4 % interest rates..

Why doesn't OBAMA listen?
He is playing the divide card and pitting state vs. state, region vs. region...class vs. class...party Vs. party.


You all see it..it ain't what America voted for.

We all had high hopes...


Now I buy 22 shells and M+Ms...

and no free pizzas for anybody.

You could have voted for me.

Just out of curiosity, what are you stocking up on ammunition for? Who's coming to get you? Or is this some sort of perverse twist on Halloween? A treat _and_ a trick?

Bill, you need to have more faith in your country.

[JT]

Feb 23, 2009 21:39:42 GMT -5 @ruffda said:

Just out of curiosity, what are you stocking up on ammunition for? Who's coming to get you?

I will be, Ruffda. I'm sick and tired of this alleged Gopher fan slacking off, and I'm gonna drag him down to the Pavilion come September.

Or... so I threaten, anyway.

[goGopherBill]

I'll buy the pop corn...

All those OBAMANITES will be coming for my farm.

3 things to watch for..

IRELAND is the 1st western nation to go under..
100,000 protested in the streets yesterday.

Lebanon will fire missiles into Israel and retaliation will happen,bringing Syria and Iran into the war.

Stock market goes below 6,000 and summer heat and the power grid explodes.
Jobless rate will be over 12%
Rioting in the streets.

The government is already running this scenario

Watch Beck and FOX..

For what if OBAMA is wrong.

You'll get religion.

or a gun..

or both.

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Please stop asking us to watch Beck. He's a political hack. That's why he moved to FOX.

[goGopherBill]

and now is the #1 at 5..o' clock time slot.
Just as FOX is #1

You wouldn't want to be really informed now would you?

[JT]

And of course, we know that whoever is most popular is the best and right choice.

[goGopherBill]

OBAMA ?

[goGopherBill]

Ap...WASHINGTON – Sales of existing homes unexpectedly plunged in January to the lowest level in nearly 12 years as pessimism about the economy grew and buyers waited for President Barack Obama's plan to help revive the U.S. housing market.

The National Association of Realtors said Wednesday that sales of existing homes fell 5.3 percent to an annual rate of 4.49 million last month, from 4.74 million in December. It was the weakest showing since July 1997.

Sales had been expected to rise to an annual pace of 4.79 million homes, according to Thomson Reuters.

Without adjusting for seasonal factors, sales nationwide fell 7.6 percent from a year earlier. The West was the only part of the country to show increased sales.

Sales had surged in December, providing some hope that the long-awaited housing market bottom was in sight. But economic fears are now paramount in the minds of many consumers.

"If Americans are worried they won't have a job next month, next quarter, or next year, you've got a real problem," Mike Larson, a real estate analyst with Weiss Research, wrote in a research note.

The median sales price in January plunged to $170,300, down 14.8 percent from $199,800 a year earlier. That was the lowest price since March 2003 and the second-largest drop on record.



THAT DARN OL BUSH...