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Post by BearClause on Apr 28, 2009 1:20:43 GMT -5
So I got back from Hawai'i last week and started going over my pictures tonight. Maybe I just don't get it, but exactly what's the significance of a rock wrapped up in a ti leaf? They look kind of gross once they start drying up like the one on the right.  I even saw one that must have been tossed into a steam vent. |
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Post by goGopherBill on Apr 28, 2009 9:44:31 GMT -5
I left a shot of diet dew at the craters edge...
Being 1/6 th Native American...
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Post by mbrooks on Apr 28, 2009 9:51:25 GMT -5
I *think* its an offering to thank the gods for the beauty they are enjoying on the hike or to ask for protection...something along those lines
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 28, 2009 10:44:24 GMT -5
Whew! I thought this was going to be about the Brazilian soccer legend.
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Post by BearClause on Apr 28, 2009 11:05:38 GMT -5
I *think* its an offering to thank the gods for the beauty they are enjoying on the hike or to ask for protection...something along those lines I kind of get the offering part, but it's just a ti leaf. Now I didn't see it myself, but I read (and saw photos) that some people leave alcohol, flowers, leis, or fruit as an offering. That I get. A plain 'ol ti leaf surrounding a rock just doesn't seem like much of an offering. I saw these things all sorts of places. Along the edge of craters, like the picture. Tossed into steam vents. I've seen photos of them on crater floors. |
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Post by bunnywailer on Apr 28, 2009 11:51:38 GMT -5
I *think* its an offering to thank the gods for the beauty they are enjoying on the hike or to ask for protection...something along those lines I kind of get the offering part, but it's just a ti leaf. Now I didn't see it myself, but I read (and saw photos) that some people leave alcohol, flowers, leis, or fruit as an offering. That I get. A plain 'ol ti leaf surrounding a rock just doesn't seem like much of an offering. I saw these things all sorts of places. Along the edge of craters, like the picture. Tossed into steam vents. I've seen photos of them on crater floors. Yeah, well, I'm sure people all over the world look at Americans and the bumpers and trunk doors of their cars and tell themselves..."It's just a fish..." |
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Post by bunnywailer on Apr 28, 2009 11:53:28 GMT -5
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Post by ladeda on Apr 28, 2009 12:11:07 GMT -5
It's what the title of your thread says. It's not what you offer to the gods it's the act of making an offering. It's kinda like Christians putting money in the collection basket, it's not how much you put in but the fact that you gave what you could.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 28, 2009 12:16:41 GMT -5
I really doubt the volcano can tell the difference between a leaf and a flower anyway. My experience with volcanos is that the offering they most seem to want is your life. Dang things are always finding new ways to kill people. Crevasses, avalanches, rock fall, explosions, poison gas, heat stroke, hypothermia ... you name it, they try it.
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Post by ladeda on Apr 28, 2009 12:24:07 GMT -5
I remember my first packing trip in the Sierras when I ran into these and I thought that they were some kind of offering to the gods.  |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 28, 2009 12:39:15 GMT -5
I remember my first packing trip in the Sierras when I ran into these and I thought that they were some kind of offering to the gods. That's silly. They are obviously landing markers for ancient astronauts. |
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Apr 28, 2009 13:07:16 GMT -5
"So I got back from Hawai'i last week and started going over my pictures tonight. Maybe I just don't get it, but exactly what's the significance of a rock wrapped up in a ti leaf? They look kind of gross once they start drying up like the one on the right."
It's better than the whole 1st born son thing...
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 28, 2009 13:12:11 GMT -5
"So I got back from Hawai'i last week and started going over my pictures tonight. Maybe I just don't get it, but exactly what's the significance of a rock wrapped up in a ti leaf? They look kind of gross once they start drying up like the one on the right." It's better than the whole 1st born son thing... Yeah, those first-born sons look really disgusting once they get all dried up. |
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Post by BearClause on Apr 28, 2009 13:23:35 GMT -5
I remember my first packing trip in the Sierras when I ran into these and I thought that they were some kind of offering to the gods. I saw the similar rock cairns marking the Keauhou Trail starting at Mau Loa o Mauna Ulu. Of course those were assembled from broken pieces of lava rock. They didn't seem to stay vertical due to the wind, so there seems to be lots and lots of them for backup. |
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Post by goGopherBill on Apr 29, 2009 8:56:47 GMT -5
Ancient message system used by most natives...
2 rocks marks trail
3 rocks meant go..NORTH.
4 Rocks meant go ..South.
5 Rocks ..meant Bring MORE FOOD and DRINK.
6 rocks meant..Tooo much time on my hands...
10 or more rocks...meant too many rocks on trail...moved to allow easier passage.
15 rocks ..meant to deceive Stanford graduates...use prime#s
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