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Post by mikegarrison on May 6, 2009 17:56:06 GMT -5
Expecting that people will not work to benefit their own interests is just silly. That's why I *don't* expect it and also why I think government is the solution, not the problem. Unfortunately, *bad* government *is* a problem. I agree with you here. IMO, the reason government was invented is precisely because sometimes there really is a tragedy of the commons. Sometimes most people can agree that we collectively would be better off if a certain thing happened, but it benefits no one individually to make that thing happen. Thus we agree to make a government that can force that thing to happen for the greater good. The devil is in the details, however, and the history of the development of governments is all about making them more effective at creating the greater good while being less disruptive to the individual good. It doesn't always work because there is an inherent conflict. Anarchy is something we can understand the meaning of in theory, but it is not a stable state for human beings and it always ends up morphing into some form of government. Claiming that "government is the problem" is crazy oversimplification.
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Post by JT on May 6, 2009 23:23:10 GMT -5
I just think the badmouthing should fall on specific politicians, rather than lumping them all together. I find very few to not lump in. Oh yeah... "throw the other guy's bum out!" I don't believe that most politicians (above the local level) are working for the common good. Money and power corrupts even the best men... and the politicians in Washington (and in St Paul) are hardly the best, imho.
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Post by OverAndUnder on May 7, 2009 7:13:09 GMT -5
I'm beginning to see glimmers of hope that ten years from now the Republicans will return to being the party of William F. Buckley rather than the party of Pat Robertson.
If not, their current woes will continue indefinitely.
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