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Post by vbobserver08 on Aug 30, 2009 21:26:46 GMT -5
What are the guidelines for redshirting for non-injury situations...can a player who will not get any playing time ask to redshirt?
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Post by macroman on Aug 30, 2009 22:08:56 GMT -5
Generally this will be up to the coaching staff.
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Post by vbnerd on Aug 30, 2009 23:06:29 GMT -5
if they play a single point, no. Until then, yes.
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Post by itsallrelative on Aug 31, 2009 6:35:51 GMT -5
by rule, if you don't play a single point all season, you don't use up a season of competition (what is referred to as a "redshirt" year).
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Post by kolohekeiki on Aug 31, 2009 6:44:32 GMT -5
by rule, if you don't play a single point all season, you don't use up a season of competition (what is referred to as a "redshirt" year). don't you have to decide that at the beginning of the season though? because you can't say at the end of the season that you wanna redshirt even if you didn't play a single point |
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Post by isuchip on Aug 31, 2009 7:56:00 GMT -5
don't you have to decide that at the beginning of the season though? because you can't say at the end of the season that you wanna redshirt even if you didn't play a single point No. If a player hasn't participated all season, then the "redshirt" can apply to that season. There is no declaration necessary prior to the season. |
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Post by James on Aug 31, 2009 7:57:30 GMT -5
As long as you don't play a single point I think you can be redshirted at the end of the season. Unless there are other redshirt rules like restrictions on traveling or practicing. Of course this is all moot if the coaching staff doesn't want to redshirt you even if you didn't play so they can move you out of the program quicker to make room for other recruits!
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Post by dancingbear on Aug 31, 2009 9:01:39 GMT -5
Non-medical Red shirt is an improperly used phrase though everyone uses it.
When you start college, you have 5 years of athletic eligibility. But only 4 years in any one sport.
If you do not play one point all season long, you automatically do not lose a year of eligibility in that sport. This requires no declaration by the coach. And this could happen their freshman, soph , junior, or senior year.
But once the 5 year clock expires, your career is over even if you never played in those 5 years.
Some athletes after 4 years go on to play one year in a different sport.
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Post by vbobserver08 on Aug 31, 2009 10:55:34 GMT -5
As long as you don't play a single point I think you can be redshirted at the end of the season. Unless there are other redshirt rules like restrictions on traveling or practicing. Of course this is all moot if the coaching staff doesn't want to redshirt you even if you didn't play so they can move you out of the program quicker to make room for other recruits! If the player plays minimally (<20%) and wants to transfer can she get a release and a redshirt season? If she transfers, the coach will have the schollie avail immediately and the player will still have eligibility at her new school. If it's legal it would be win/win for coach and player. |
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Post by Not Me on Aug 31, 2009 11:00:47 GMT -5
The only way you can play and red-shirt is if you get hurt. And it has to be a season-ending injury, and be documented by the school and the training staff. If you play even one point, then you may not red-shirt for a non-medical reason. I don't think the NCAA bends at all on this issue.
Redshirting and transfers are 2 separate issues. Just because you red-shirt doesn't exempt you from transfer rules. You still need a release, and have to follow all of the transfer rules.
I assume that when you say immediately, you mean in the following year.
A freshman can't transfer in their first semester, or even their first year, as they have to fulfill the obligation of the NLI, which says you have to spend a year in residence.
Sounds like someone is all upset that they aren't good enough to get on the floor. Instead of looking for a way to quit and get out, why not just work harder?
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Post by vbobserver08 on Aug 31, 2009 11:36:04 GMT -5
The only way you can play and red-shirt is if you get hurt. And it has to be a season-ending injury, and be documented by the school and the training staff. If you play even one point, then you may not red-shirt for a non-medical reason. I don't think the NCAA bends at all on this issue. Redshirting and transfers are 2 separate issues. Just because you red-shirt doesn't exempt you from transfer rules. You still need a release, and have to follow all of the transfer rules. I assume that when you say immediately, you mean in the following year. A freshman can't transfer in their first semester, or even their first year, as they have to fulfill the obligation of the NLI, which says you have to spend a year in residence. Sounds like someone is all upset that they aren't good enough to get on the floor. Instead of looking for a way to quit and get out, why not just work harder? Please don't make judgements on players you don't know...the coach told her she is one of the hardest working players on the team...unfortunately, they have too many players in the same year and they can't all play and she is not the type of player who wants to stand and watch knowing she will never play...it would have been better to find this out last spring but it's a new coach and things have changed...I just want to know what the options are so that she can make an informed decision when the time comes...she is still fighting for playing time but the writing is on the wall...we are just trying to make the best of a bad situation...no one is at fault. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 31, 2009 11:41:19 GMT -5
A freshman can't transfer in their first semester, or even their first year, as they have to fulfill the obligation of the NLI, which says you have to spend a year in residence. Only if they signed an NLI. And only if they are going to a school that participates in the NLI program. It's not actually mandatory to do either. |
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Post by vbobserver08 on Aug 31, 2009 12:02:51 GMT -5
Player is a Sophmore so NLI is no longer an issue
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Post by BearClause on Aug 31, 2009 12:15:19 GMT -5
As long as you don't play a single point I think you can be redshirted at the end of the season. Unless there are other redshirt rules like restrictions on traveling or practicing. Of course this is all moot if the coaching staff doesn't want to redshirt you even if you didn't play so they can move you out of the program quicker to make room for other recruits! If the player plays minimally (<20%) and wants to transfer can she get a release and a redshirt season? If she transfers, the coach will have the schollie avail immediately and the player will still have eligibility at her new school. If it's legal it would be win/win for coach and player. Doesn't work that way. Athletic scholarships can't be transferred that way. I think the only means of transferring a scholarship to a new player is if the leaving player has exhausted playing eligibility and withdraws from school. I think it's pretty common in football where there are a good many seniors leaving early to prepare for the NFL draft. I'm sure the rules were designed to prevent coaches from forcing out players in order to reward another player. Now if there was a documented season-ending injury or illness, then there might be a case, and it would have to be up to 30% of the season's contests and less than the halfway point of the team's scheduled contests. |
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Post by vbobserver08 on Aug 31, 2009 13:05:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry...I shouldn't have said immediately...what I meant was that the coach would have that scholarship available the next year if the player transferred and could immediately use it in terms of recruiting as opposed to waiting three years for the player to graduate.
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