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Post by vbnerd on Nov 20, 2009 15:43:14 GMT -5
Chaplin was hired in January. I used to think that unless Joel McCartney was involved it took some time to screw up enough to get fired from a volleyball coaching job, but here she managed to do it in 10 months. Some jobs take nearly that long to hire someone.
Is it my imagination or is the trigger getting quicker for volleyball coaches?
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 20, 2009 15:50:37 GMT -5
A friend of mine, a former DI coach, has a hypothesis.
Volleyball coaches have been pushing very hard to be recognized as being the head of a relevant sport, i.e. wanting the sport to be a focus in the athletic department and being taken seriously. The upside now is that, indeed, volleyball is being recognized and supported in many institutions as the flagship women's sport. the down side of that is the job security that goes with being the anonymous sport has disappeared. Where once the volleyball coach could get away with winning half the conference matches, make the conference tournament every few years but graduating a lot of the players, they are now being scrutinized with a much finer set of magnifying glass because the sport has taken up more of the budget and the coach's salary has increased to the point where it is not a blip on the radar of the annual budget. So his idea is that the AD with the quick trigger is justified because that is what he would do if any of the other major sports are underperforming.
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Post by silversurfer on Nov 20, 2009 15:51:46 GMT -5
Chaplin was hired in January. I used to think that unless Joel McCartney was involved it took some time to screw up enough to get fired from a volleyball coaching job, but here she managed to do it in 10 months. Some jobs take nearly that long to hire someone. Is it my imagination or is the trigger getting quicker for volleyball coaches? It might be, but I don't think the leading indicators will be coming from schools such as the St. Andrews Presbyterian College, nor Youngstown State for that matter. If triggers get pulled more quickly, it'll be by the schools that invest the most and don't think they're getting a return on that investment, or that have a large, influential alumni base that is concerned with volleyball.
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Post by d3coach on Nov 20, 2009 17:18:21 GMT -5
Chaplin was hired in January. I used to think that unless Joel McCartney was involved it took some time to screw up enough to get fired from a volleyball coaching job, but here she managed to do it in 10 months. Some jobs take nearly that long to hire someone. Is it my imagination or is the trigger getting quicker for volleyball coaches? When something like this happens, there's usually more to the story than just not getting it done on the court. Especially when they are terming it a "firing". With that said, I have no inside information what so ever. It could just be she didn't get the job done...
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Post by vbfamily on Nov 20, 2009 22:37:59 GMT -5
Info from a parent of a player at St. Andrews several days ago indicated that she told the girls the school might be cutting athletics from the budget and she was going to help them get something figured out if that might happen.
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Post by simplycurious on Nov 22, 2009 17:48:07 GMT -5
I spoke with the SWA at Youngstown State last week and she said they'll be collecting resumes through December 4th, which is the closing date listed on their job announcement. It was also interesting to find out that they've reached out to other local DI VB coaches for recommendations. After December 4th they'll see who "rises to the top" and begin checking references. She'd like someone in place when everyone returns on January 11th, but doesn't know if that's possible due to the holiday season. At the absolute latest, she said they'd have someone by February 1st. She didn't indicate, nor did I ask, if they planned on sending anyone to the AVCA Convention to interview candidates.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 23, 2009 19:59:39 GMT -5
www.goairforcefalcons.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/112309aaa.htmlThis has been going on for a while now but no one was talking about it, Air Force had decided not to extend her contract. Now it is official. Penny Lucas White is out as of December as the head coach of the Air Force Academy. She was 97-302 as head coach, she was in Colorado Springs for 14 years. The job opening will be posted tomorrow or Wednesday on the NCAA jobs site.
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Post by Hard Cross on Nov 23, 2009 21:28:05 GMT -5
I am not surprised... The program hasn't been successful for some time now and a few people I know who played there didn't really have a good experience.. ( I wouldn't' enjoy not winning either). It will be interesting to see if they go after a female again
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Post by Not Me on Nov 24, 2009 15:24:24 GMT -5
Don't think anyone was surprised by that move.
Jacksonville U has posted for an assistant.
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Post by karellen on Nov 24, 2009 16:16:58 GMT -5
What is going on at St Andrews? This year was not any worst than previous years, but they let her go after one season? What else went wrong?
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Post by 1wvb on Nov 24, 2009 17:55:43 GMT -5
Towson is now open. Staff was informed this morning. Players are upset after they were informed this afternoon. A solid group of freshmen and a All American coming in. Looked like they were getting back on track but a tough season ended the run for this staff. Hopefully this staff will bounce back as they move forward with their careers.
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Post by vbnerd on Nov 24, 2009 18:12:48 GMT -5
www.towsontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21300&ATCLID=204839555I get why they aren't renaming the gym after anyone, but a Maryland State School defeats the University of Maryland 2 years in a row and they still let the staff go? How often does that happen? At most schools, if you beat State U TWICE the staff gets an extension, a raise and maybe even their name on a parking spot. If I'm Horseman, I'm a little ticked that the rest of the state thinks that little of my program. Then again, if I were Horseman I'd already be ticked off about a bunch of other things.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2009 18:35:27 GMT -5
What is going on at St Andrews? This year was not any worst than previous years, but they let her go after one season? What else went wrong? There are a few things going on at St. Andrews. Mainly financial problems (but who doesn't have them at this point) as well as some accreditation issues. Also, as pointed out by vbfamily, the coach told them that athletics may be cut next year. However, its my understanding that the coach's "warning" to the players was not as tactful as vbfamily's post made it sound (although that is just what I have heard). Also, the financial problems are not limited to this one school. I believe that the entire conference is feeling it... heck the entire nation is feeling it. Its a recession remember. Finally, as for the accreditation part, this too has been going on for a few years now. They have recently been pre-accredited by another organization (AALE), and they have a plan of action should their original accreditation (through SACS) fall through and become invalid. However, this new accreditation is only a national accreditation and is not recognized by the NCAA (who accepts regional accreditation) without applying for substitution through the NCAA to let the AALE accreditation stand. I really hope everything works out for them though. I know that the school is working their tail off to make things work out.
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 24, 2009 19:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by Not Me on Nov 24, 2009 21:50:41 GMT -5
www.towsontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21300&ATCLID=204839555I get why they aren't renaming the gym after anyone, but a Maryland State School defeats the University of Maryland 2 years in a row and they still let the staff go? How often does that happen? At most schools, if you beat State U TWICE the staff gets an extension, a raise and maybe even their name on a parking spot. If I'm Horseman, I'm a little ticked that the rest of the state thinks that little of my program. Then again, if I were Horseman I'd already be ticked off about a bunch of other things. So the Towson administration should overlook the fact that they lost their last 13 matches and finished last in their league just because they beat a bigger state school? that doesn't really make sense.
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