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Post by bunnywailer on Feb 1, 2010 21:59:54 GMT -5
Two biggest factors to success as a head coach:
1. Be passionate about your program and always be willing to put the good of the program first and foremost before your own ego.
2. Be a great leader, whatever your leadership style is.
For many different reasons, many of the names people have thrown out through this entire thread are absolutely HORRIBLE candidates to be the next UCLA head coach.
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Post by azvb on Feb 1, 2010 22:11:01 GMT -5
Two biggest factors to success as a head coach: 1. Be passionate about your program and always be willing to put the good of the program first and foremost before your own ego. 2. Be a great leader, whatever your leadership style is. For many different reasons, many of the names people have thrown out through this entire thread are absolutely HORRIBLE candidates to be the next UCLA head coach. Bob, I don't think the names I threw out deserve an upper case HORRIBLE.
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 1, 2010 23:33:17 GMT -5
you are missing my point, or perhaps i'm not making mine clear enough. Given UCLA's status, and the attractiveness of the job, IF they really wanted volleyball to be at the top nationally. They would target someone or small group and go after them. Which to me is, prepare an offer, fly out to see them, and sell them on the job. Not bring in assistants (regardless how good they are) and interview them to see if they SEEM up to the task. Go get someone that you already know is up to the task. Perhaps they have done this, but it doesnt appear that is the case, or its the best kept secret ever in volleyball. Do you think Nebraska would bring in four candidates? Texas wouldn't, Florida wouldnt either. My point being the search in many cases is a reflection of how important the program is. We are the best, and we are going to go out and get the best, is the mentality of the big boys in this business. With all due respect to say a Mike Sealy,(who very well may be the best possible candidate, I don't know) what is the statement if they hired him? Opposed to what is the statement if they went out and got Hugh, or Jerrit, or JMAC. The statement would be "we are all in about womens volleyball at UCLA. Look how football coaches are hired. Coaches fired or retired, new coach named yesterday. The way they appear to be going about it is frankly ordinary. To me, UCLA volleyball is extrordinary and the hiring process should reflect that. UCLA has won more NCAA National Championships (in all sports) than any other school. You are going to tell the UCLA Athletic Director he doesn’t know how to hire head coaches?....I’m not buying what you offer. UCLA won many (the majority) of those National Championships in the less popular sports (not football) and women’s sports. UCLA won so many NCAA championships precisely because the athletic department has focused on the less popular sports. UCLA has indeed won more titles than anyone, and have indeed hired great coaches. Their AD is also obviously more versed and experience than I am. Having said that, I can disagree with their process. I believe I have demonstrated how great I think their program is, based on how I believe they are in the type of position to get who they want. I do know a couple of people they have spoken to about the job, I think both are very strong coaches, neither anywhere near as established as the people I believe you could get. That does not mean those who they have talked to couldnt have brilliant careers. Like I said, if it were me (it isnt) I would target who I wanted and try to make it happen. As I said, they are UCLA, and as I said HOW they go about it, may speak to how important they see the position. Who were the other three candidates they brought in when they hired Ben Howland?
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Post by aced on Feb 1, 2010 23:42:19 GMT -5
I doubt very much the wvb programas has the same kind of money the basketball program has to hire a coach - sorry but true remember for ucla this is not a revenue sport - boosters, football and basketball pay the biils.
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 1, 2010 23:50:15 GMT -5
I doubt very much the wvb programas has the same kind of money the basketball program has to hire a coach - sorry but true remember for ucla this is not a revenue sport - boosters, football and basketball pay the biils. I said earlier that they may not have the money to do what I am suggesting. I also said, that this may say how much they are willing to invest in vb, thus how important it is in the scheme of it.
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Post by bunnywailer on Feb 1, 2010 23:51:30 GMT -5
Two biggest factors to success as a head coach: 1. Be passionate about your program and always be willing to put the good of the program first and foremost before your own ego. 2. Be a great leader, whatever your leadership style is. For many different reasons, many of the names people have thrown out through this entire thread are absolutely HORRIBLE candidates to be the next UCLA head coach. Bob, I don't think the names I threw out deserve an upper case HORRIBLE. Maybe, maybe not. But you did call Peterson pasty.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 0:43:40 GMT -5
I doubt very much the wvb programas has the same kind of money the basketball program has to hire a coach - sorry but true remember for ucla this is not a revenue sport - boosters, football and basketball pay the biils. I said earlier that they may not have the money to do what I am suggesting. I also said, that this may say how much they are willing to invest in vb, thus how important it is in the scheme of it. Just to toss a serving of realism into this discussion, most name schools (i.e. any that accept federal funds for research, etc), no matter how many titles they have to their name, have established procedures and policies for hiring, including posting, national searches, etc., as part of their commitment to equal opportunity. They may well scout out who they want and make strong advances, but they would be foolish not to follow their established policies. None of the top mens football and basketball teams have ever had women coaches, which is another topic, and they can get away with skirting their institutions hiring procedures. But if the old boys network sub silencio found a replacement for Banachowski without an open process, they would be in deep doo doo.
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Post by johnbar on Feb 2, 2010 0:43:44 GMT -5
... I like Don Shaw because of his resume with the Women's Program at Stanford winning 3 NCAA Titles (1992, 1996, 1997)... Shaw won four titles at Stanford; you left out 1994.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 0:47:22 GMT -5
... I like Don Shaw because of his resume with the Women's Program at Stanford winning 3 NCAA Titles (1992, 1996, 1997)... Shaw won four titles at Stanford; you left out 1994. I cannot imagine Don Shaw would ever throw his name in for consideration for another women's DI program.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 2, 2010 1:25:11 GMT -5
None of the top mens football and basketball teams have ever had women coaches, which is another topic, and they can get away with skirting their institutions hiring procedures. But if the old boys network sub silencio found a replacement for Banachowski without an open process, they would be in deep doo doo. Rick Pitino actually had a woman on his coaching staff at Kentucky. I forgot her name though. Eventually she moved on as a head coach of a women's BB team.
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Post by network155 on Feb 2, 2010 5:51:23 GMT -5
... I like Don Shaw because of his resume with the Women's Program at Stanford winning 3 NCAA Titles (1992, 1996, 1997)... Shaw won four titles at Stanford; you left out 1994. That's right! How did I forget about that? They defeated a very good UCLA team that year.
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Post by Keystonekid on Feb 2, 2010 10:33:19 GMT -5
I said earlier that they may not have the money to do what I am suggesting. I also said, that this may say how much they are willing to invest in vb, thus how important it is in the scheme of it. Just to toss a serving of realism into this discussion, most name schools (i.e. any that accept federal funds for research, etc), no matter how many titles they have to their name, have established procedures and policies for hiring, including posting, national searches, etc., as part of their commitment to equal opportunity. They may well scout out who they want and make strong advances, but they would be foolish not to follow their established policies. None of the top mens football and basketball teams have ever had women coaches, which is another topic, and they can get away with skirting their institutions hiring procedures. But if the old boys network sub silencio found a replacement for Banachowski without an open process, they would be in deep doo doo. Who were the other three candidates interviewed when they hired Howland?
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Post by imbetterthenu on Feb 2, 2010 11:10:12 GMT -5
I don't see why Tom Peterson is such a bad look. He does have two National Championships in the Men's game. One over UCLA in a huge upset. Maybe they should remember how they took them down. I don't know where he is now. Rod Wilde is living in cold Wisconsin...he would do a great job. Ron Larsen is at UC Riverside if I remember right. Shawn Patchell- Can't see this one happening. I think he has "0" experience with the women. What do I know it seems the trend this off season is getting assistants, or assistants with little experience....So it would make sense they just hire Karch ha ha. He has more experience then the hires this season.
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Post by azvb on Feb 2, 2010 14:28:27 GMT -5
I don't see why Tom Peterson is such a bad look. He does have two National Championships in the Men's game. One over UCLA in a huge upset. Maybe they should remember how they took them down. I don't know where he is now. . Tom Peterson is an asst at Utah State. He was the fall guy for an ineligibe foreign player at BYU. If I remember correctly, UCSB and UCLA made a stink, it was investigated, NCAA found the guy was eligible, but BYU fired Tom anyway. I do believe he got some money out of the deal - not Lindy Vivas money (settled out of court), but he got an apology and some cash. He's such a nice guy. Carl McGown guru.
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Post by Carlton Lassiter on Feb 2, 2010 19:45:25 GMT -5
I don't see why Tom Peterson is such a bad look. He does have two National Championships in the Men's game. One over UCLA in a huge upset. Maybe they should remember how they took them down. I don't know where he is now. Rod Wilde is living in cold Wisconsin...he would do a great job. Ron Larsen is at UC Riverside if I remember right. Shawn Patchell- Can't see this one happening. I think he has "0" experience with the women. What do I know it seems the trend this off season is getting assistants, or assistants with little experience....So it would make sense they just hire Karch ha ha. He has more experience then the hires this season. Why do you think Wilde would do a great job? Debbie Brown isn't going to be hired by UCLA away from Notre Dame.
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