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Post by dokterrudi on Apr 15, 2024 12:25:33 GMT -5
Sounds “scammy”
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Post by johnbar on Apr 18, 2024 12:41:25 GMT -5
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Post by ay2013 on Apr 18, 2024 13:30:24 GMT -5
Kiki has her undergraduate degree. She has another year of eligibility. The San Francisco Chronicle is out with an article Kiki has been offered up to $700,000 in NIL money by some schools. That seems difficult for me to believe although she probably is one of the most coveted WBB players in the country. I don't have a handle on how NIL money is impacting women's volleyball. If it's getting into absurd amounts to induce the best players to transfer, I'm starting to prefer Stanford walk away from varsity sports or participate at a level where there are no scholarships and big NIL. From my perspective college should first and foremost be an academic institution, not a revolving door for student athletes chasing the biggest paycheck.
I truly don’t understand NIL. I thought schools couldn’t promise money of any kind I thought they could only say “yeah some players have made this, or we have ALOT of NIL opportunities” but promising it or offering a specific number was not allowed? It's not SUPPOSED to be allowed but we all know it's a charade. School boosters are paying athletes to attend their school and play a sport, plain and simple. It's entirely what these NIL collectives are for. The athletes don't do anything for the money, it's just a big pot that the athletic recruiters have access to lure prospective recruits. Those that control the money levers in the collective just have to agree on a number for a particular athlete and that's what gets offered. We are squarely in the pay to play era and it's so very disappointing.
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Post by johnbar on Apr 21, 2024 17:45:39 GMT -5
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Post by SakiBomb25 on Apr 21, 2024 19:43:25 GMT -5
These players and these coaches do not want to travel across the country to play games on a weekly basis. Oregon State's stars are transferring out too for the same reason. Oregon State players are leaving because they want to play in a Power 5 conference. Oregon State is moving to the WCC for now so they would have traveled to West Coast school to compete.
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 21, 2024 20:11:57 GMT -5
Kiki has her undergraduate degree. She has another year of eligibility. The San Francisco Chronicle is out with an article Kiki has been offered up to $700,000 in NIL money by some schools. That seems difficult for me to believe although she probably is one of the most coveted WBB players in the country. I don't have a handle on how NIL money is impacting women's volleyball. If it's getting into absurd amounts to induce the best players to transfer, I'm starting to prefer Stanford walk away from varsity sports or participate at a level where there are no scholarships and big NIL. From my perspective college should first and foremost be an academic institution, not a revolving door for student athletes chasing the biggest paycheck.
I truly don’t understand NIL. I thought schools couldn’t promise money of any kind I thought they could only say “yeah some players have made this, or we have ALOT of NIL opportunities” but promising it or offering a specific number was not allowed? There were rules, but the NCAA keeps losing court cases every time they try to assert control. A month or so ago Virginia and Tennessee Attorneys General got an injunction against the NCAA to prevent them from enforcing NIL rules.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Apr 21, 2024 23:09:22 GMT -5
I truly don’t understand NIL. I thought schools couldn’t promise money of any kind I thought they could only say “yeah some players have made this, or we have ALOT of NIL opportunities” but promising it or offering a specific number was not allowed? There were rules, but the NCAA keeps losing court cases every time they try to assert control. A month or so ago Virginia and Tennessee Attorneys General got an injunction against the NCAA to prevent them from enforcing NIL rules. So basically the top schools can now garuntee players x amount of money… That’s gonna flip the scales so much. Programs like Nebraska, Texas etc can basically assure the top recruits even more so now. I hate this new age of sports
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 21, 2024 23:23:16 GMT -5
There were rules, but the NCAA keeps losing court cases every time they try to assert control. A month or so ago Virginia and Tennessee Attorneys General got an injunction against the NCAA to prevent them from enforcing NIL rules. So basically the top schools can now garuntee players x amount of money… That’s gonna flip the scales so much. Programs like Nebraska, Texas etc can basically assure the top recruits even more so now. I hate this new age of sports Some states have laws that prohibit Universities from being involved in NIL (California for one, but there are many others). Other, like Virginia and Tenn, do not prohibit it, and are seeking to prevent the NCAA from enforcing its own rules that limit the involvement of school in NIL. Eventually, the matter will end up in the Supreme Court again. But I also think the aggressive stance taken by states like VA and Tenn are going to back-fire because there isn't any legal basis to prevent the NCAA from regulating it's own members on the question of NIL.
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Post by bobbk on Apr 22, 2024 7:58:27 GMT -5
California schools are very active with NIL it started in California
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Apr 22, 2024 16:06:17 GMT -5
California schools are very active with NIL it started in California Yep, California led the nation in sanctioning NIL payments to athletes and then sweetened the pot by requiring schools to share profits with athletes. I always thought the "big" schools should just become minor leagues for athletes at least in the revenue-rich sports. Students could attend classes if they chose to do so, but they were there to play basketball or football. Volleyball, meh.
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 22, 2024 16:17:39 GMT -5
California passed a law allowing athletes to profit from their NIL prior to the Supreme Court decision, but it is a fundamental misunderstanding of that law to think that it authorized schools to be involved in NIL deals for student-athletes (the same is true for the SCOTUS decision.) In fact, after the SCOTUS decision, California passed a law specifically prohibiting schools from being involved in brokering NIL deals, so as to be in conformance with the intention of the Supreme Court decision. Other states have taken the opposite approach, and encouraged school participation/involvment in NIL deals.
The constant linkage of NIL with attendance at a particular school is something that continues to obscure the significance of the Alston decision on NIL.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 22, 2024 17:01:21 GMT -5
So basically the top schools can now garuntee players x amount of money… That’s gonna flip the scales so much. Programs like Nebraska, Texas etc can basically assure the top recruits even more so now. I hate this new age of sports Some states have laws that prohibit Universities from being involved in NIL (California for one, but there are many others). Other, like Virginia and Tenn, do not prohibit it, and are seeking to prevent the NCAA from enforcing its own rules that limit the involvement of school in NIL. Eventually, the matter will end up in the Supreme Court again. But I also think the aggressive stance taken by states like VA and Tenn are going to back-fire because there isn't any legal basis to prevent the NCAA from regulating it's own members on the question of NIL. I don’t agree. I think the NCAA is seeking legislative relief from Congress while floating the idea of a more no holds barred division where rules enforcement is more limited in a desperate effort to stay relevant. I do not believe the cases involving Tennessee and Virginia end up in the Supreme Court, although once legislation is finally passed (who knows how long from now that will be or what it will look like) aspects of that relating to NIL certainly will.
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Post by slxpress on Apr 22, 2024 17:02:55 GMT -5
California schools are very active with NIL it started in California The only California school I know of that’s truly active in big time NIL deals is USC.
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Post by bobbk on Apr 22, 2024 17:46:50 GMT -5
I would think $200K Payments are big time. No?
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Post by liberosetter101 on Apr 22, 2024 18:07:09 GMT -5
It’s only April, but this year has felt eternal in terms of commitment announcements/posts
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