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Post by setterdump on Jul 21, 2014 13:57:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the 4.0 info. Well again good for her, best to her. Stanford was one of her finalists... link.
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Post by paloalto on Jul 21, 2014 16:58:32 GMT -5
I have been following the recruitment of Lanier for some time. She is academically qualified for Stanford or any college. This is a real setback for Stanford. Lanier and Hodson would have formed the nucleus of a competitive team for 2016, 2017, and 2018. The depth of talent Mick has accumulated at hitting positions for upcoming years is insane. The last I heard about Sun is USC sits at the top of her list. Fortunately for the rest of the Pac-12 there is a limit of 6 players on the court at one time.
I have been critical at times of Dunning taking the easy road in selecting players to recruit. I don’t find any fault with Dunning on this one. Lanier didn’t have any family connections to Stanford. I heard while Stanford was in the running, the Cardinal were never at the top of her list.
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Post by tnp101 on Jul 24, 2014 13:48:47 GMT -5
I think the recruiting job is with Denis, no? But I think the head coach is also important. Dunning is a nice guy, but I don't feel that he has a "Charisma" or "Passion" that is oozing out from him about volleyball like some other coaches. He is a great coach for sure and Stanford has been landing its recruits on its prestige. Don Shaw would have shown more charisma or passion to make the players wanted to play for him. That was why during his tenure, Stanford got all the top recruits.
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Post by paloalto on Jul 26, 2014 17:53:00 GMT -5
Has Stanford lost some elite players because they didn't want to wait for an admissions decision? The answer is probably although I don't have any specific examples. In talking to some players' parents, I know there is always apprehension until the admissions decision is made. The window is starting to close on potential 2016 recruits. Other than Fitzmorris I haven't heard of anyone waiting it out for a decision. Will the Pac-12 Network going to subscriber-based youtube programming in 27 countries help Stanford recruit any 2016 players? pac-12.com/article/2014/07/22/pac-12-networks-distribute-its-live-sports-programming-international-audiences
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Post by bobbk on Jul 28, 2014 20:19:44 GMT -5
Yes Stanford loses recruits all the time who don't want to or can't await an Admissions decision. Yesterday with a FB player. I don't know of a VB player who fits this but lots of athletes over the years to be sure.
Are you implying Fitzmorris who hasn't started her Jr year in HS has applied? I have never heard of an athlete able to do this.
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Post by paloalto on Jul 29, 2014 3:29:58 GMT -5
Are you implying Fitzmorris who hasn't started her Jr year in HS has applied? No, it is too early for her to fill out an application. I have heard she expressed an interest in Stanford and is willing to take her time in making a decision. FWIW, I would not change anything in the admissions process.
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Post by OptimusPrime on Jul 29, 2014 14:38:35 GMT -5
Cheer up. I just bet $10 for STanford to make it to final four. This will be a good year for the Cardinal.
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Post by Boof1224 on Jul 29, 2014 14:40:06 GMT -5
Cheer up. I just bet $10 for STanford to make it to final four. This will be a good year for the Cardinal. I'd double that bet and say Stanford wins it all this year
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Jul 29, 2014 14:41:11 GMT -5
Cheer up. I just bet $10 for STanford to make it to final four. This will be a good year for the Cardinal. I agree. They were so close to making it to the Final Four in 2013! I think this is the year that the 2012 recruiting class really steps it up. I have Stanford in the FF4.
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Post by paloalto on Jul 29, 2014 15:10:42 GMT -5
As a Stanford follower I want to thank fans for their encouragement. This should be a decent year. I don’t expect any team to dominate.
2015 could be Stanford’s strongest team in some time. Then 2016 is a big question mark. We will need more than Hodson to be competitive. I don’t know if Lutz, Brown, Vanjak, etc will be at the same level as the 2012 recruits.
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Post by hammer on Jul 29, 2014 16:14:52 GMT -5
Stanford will need to recruit Fitz and Sun; otherwise turn out the lights the party's over (for several years after 2015) as Penn St and USC should dominate.
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Post by setterdump on Jul 30, 2014 21:28:39 GMT -5
As a Stanford follower I want to thank fans for their encouragement. This should be a decent year. I don’t expect any team to dominate. 2015 could be Stanford’s strongest team in some time. Then 2016 is a big question mark. We will need more than Hodson to be competitive. I don’t know if Lutz, Brown, Vanjak, etc will be at the same level as the 2012 recruits. I'll probably get killed for saying this, but I think we may be starting to see the slight dip in Stanford's post-season success over the last 5 years (compared to the lofty, likely unrealistic standard the program set in the 90's and 00's with multiple final fours/championships) come into play during present day recruiting. I feel that previously Stanford had an unbeatable combination- the best academics coupled with the best opportunity to win a national championship- in the eyes of many top recruits who also sincerely valued academics. I truly believe that recruits like Lanier would've been a lock for Stanford if this was the mid-2000's. Nowadays, Stanford still offers the most academic prestige among the top volleyball programs, but if a recruit's first priority is the chance to win a national title, I can understand why programs like Penn St, Texas, and USC may be more appealing right now, as they have performed better than Stanford in recent years. Continuing to beat out these programs for recruits like Hodson, who I understand has a family connection (?) to Stanford, may become the exception and not the rule for Stanford.
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 31, 2014 12:38:21 GMT -5
As a Stanford follower I want to thank fans for their encouragement. This should be a decent year. I don’t expect any team to dominate. 2015 could be Stanford’s strongest team in some time. Then 2016 is a big question mark. We will need more than Hodson to be competitive. I don’t know if Lutz, Brown, Vanjak, etc will be at the same level as the 2012 recruits. I'll probably get killed for saying this, but I think we may be starting to see the slight dip in Stanford's post-season success over the last 5 years (compared to the lofty, likely unrealistic standard the program set in the 90's and 00's with multiple final fours/championships) come into play during present day recruiting. I feel that previously Stanford had an unbeatable combination- the best academics coupled with the best opportunity to win a national championship- in the eyes of many top recruits who also sincerely valued academics. I truly believe that recruits like Lanier would've been a lock for Stanford if this was the mid-2000's. Nowadays, Stanford still offers the most academic prestige among the top volleyball programs, but if a recruit's first priority is the chance to win a national title, I can understand why programs like Penn St, Texas, and USC may be more appealing right now, as they have performed better than Stanford in recent years. Continuing to beat out these programs for recruits like Hodson, who I understand has a family connection (?) to Stanford, may become the exception and not the rule for Stanford. There have always been other national programs to threaten the Stanford hegemony during the 90's and 2000's. There have always been 2 to 3 other programs that get other top players. If anything, winning a national championship at a different school isn't keeping Stanford down, it's the rise of other programs (who probably won't win a NC) recruiting well. Here's a thought, and I know it's complete speculation, but perhaps more and more recruits see Stanford as unattainable/undesirable BECAUSE of the academic standards. Many of the top recruit have a decision made by the end of their sophomore year, some, like in the case of Nebraska, get a verbal right when the baby pops out of the womb. Stanford's academic and admission standards is really a disadvantage. Other than that, I'm not sure WHY recruits these days choose to pass over a chance to be a Stanford grad. As a parent, it's a no brainer where I'd want my child to go, for free!. What is this generation coming to
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Post by volleytology on Jul 31, 2014 12:48:54 GMT -5
Stanford still gets excellent recruits and is a top 5 program, but what's hurt them a little in the recruiting process is the early visit/offer/commitment trend that started about 5-7 years ago. With Stanford's admission policies, they must wait to offer kids; while other high profile programs (Texas, PSU, Nebraska, etc) can offer right away. The other part of that is recruits don't take official visits anymore and Stanford used to always be one of the five visits for every top recruit. Sign of the times...
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Post by Sbilo on Jul 31, 2014 14:22:14 GMT -5
In my opinion, we just need to secure at least a top OH for 2016 and we will be good until 2017. Vanjak and Brown should compete for the starting OHs/Opp spot after 2015, with Hodson having a year of experience also by that time. What I am worried about are the MBs, no MB for 2014, nothing for 2015 also. Hopefully Fitzmorris will be going to Stanford by 2016. After the graduation of Ajanaku and Mcgehee, we will only be left with one MB: Lutz. Or probably Dunning and the coaching staff are looking at foreign recruits?
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