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Post by I Luv Danny R on Dec 11, 2006 15:45:04 GMT -5
Last year I think Jose Delgado was listed at 6'3 but Was more likely 6'1 also Eric Kalima seems to be just 6 foot.
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Post by wisky4 on Dec 11, 2006 16:33:15 GMT -5
omalley played for CVC i thought? correct but he played for spry up until they moved to west aurora and that was the summer going into our senior year.
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 11, 2006 16:59:17 GMT -5
omalley played for CVC i thought? omalley played spri for 15s, 16's and 17s then switched to CVC for 18's.
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Post by setter on Dec 11, 2006 19:48:45 GMT -5
where was spri before west aurora?
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Post by wisky4 on Dec 11, 2006 22:26:32 GMT -5
where was spri before west aurora? west chicago, hidden behind a ford dealership
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 11, 2006 22:43:23 GMT -5
With all the heights in men's volleyball over 6'. Will there ever be room for someone under 6'? I do know that there are liberos under 6', but there are also a lot that are over. It makes it seem like the sport is not for everyone (at least in men's volleyball)
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Dec 11, 2006 23:34:47 GMT -5
With all the heights in men's volleyball over 6'. Will there ever be room for someone under 6'? I do know that there are liberos under 6', but there are also a lot that are over. It makes it seem like the sport is not for everyone (at least in men's volleyball) At USAV adult nationals in May, there is a U-Volley division for players 6'1" (approx) and under to compete in. I am not sure they attract a lot of teams but a team from the chicago area has won that division at least once if not more.
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Post by Lew8ftln on Dec 12, 2006 4:42:17 GMT -5
The problem is that volleyball is the most 3-dimensional sport in the world. In other sports you can get away w/ being short if you have good agility, however even at the libero position, a ball that get's redirected off the block ends up over the head of a 5' w/e libero even in the best position while the 6' somethin libero will prolly get a touch on it if they are in decent position. Every other sport comes down to endurance or short bursts of speed in some lateral direction, but volleyball is the only one where you must make a split second movement (usually on defense) and even if u are in the best position it is possible to not keep the ball in play.
Now if ur not 6' somethin don't be discouraged, because what I listed above is at the highest levels of competitive vball. You can do just fine playing even outside if ur agile and smart....but the higher the competition, the higher the hands are BEFORE jumping
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Post by doctordubya on Dec 12, 2006 6:38:56 GMT -5
For all the reasons listed above, a shorter player has to have more skill to make up for a lack of height. However, guys like Papi, Giba et al show that if you're good enough, you're tall enough. The same is also true in basketball - Allen Iverson can't be more than 6', but he's so good that he can hang with the big trees.
Of course height does matter in volleyball, but I find it quite reassuring that the current all-conquering Brazilian men are actually not a tall team. They are just better than anyone else.
In the US, however, height matters an awful lot in the minds of the top men's coaches. If you're 6'3" there's very little point turning up to a USAV tryout at any position other than libero. That's a big mistake on their part.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Dec 12, 2006 9:40:38 GMT -5
My 2 cents, it's not so much height, as reach (wingspan).
Pedro Leal who played for USC a few years ago, was 6ft, however his standing reach was at least 8'4. I think Tony from UH was kind of the same way.
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 12, 2006 19:04:35 GMT -5
In the US, however, height matters an awful lot in the minds of the top men's coaches. If you're 6'3" there's very little point turning up to a USAV tryout at any position other than libero. That's a big mistake on their part. Could that be another reason why a lot of boys get discouraged to play volleyball? while girls able play even when they are under 6', giving them more opportunity to play
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Post by Lew8ftln on Dec 13, 2006 11:19:28 GMT -5
Um no.....that discouagement would come from the ignorant meatheads that are a huge majority of guys in the US that think skill sports are for girls to play and guys should only play physical sports like football and basketball. Weird though that there's no stigma against baseball which has no contact, but volleyball there is.
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Post by zip15 on Dec 13, 2006 11:45:27 GMT -5
Not to mention that there are basketball and football programs as low as elementary school all over the place, but most of the opportunities to play volleyball are later for guys, while there are girls volleyball teams early.
The more guys volleyball teams that keep popping up earlier and earlier in life will start to remove the misconception.
Also, television of the mens game will help--the mens game is so much more power then the womens game, but womens volleyball is all anyones ever seen. If mens volleyball looked anything like womens volleyball, the meatheads might be right.
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Post by ncaadropout on Dec 15, 2006 21:28:24 GMT -5
In my opinion, the only position that TRULY requires height is the middle. The reason for this is pure blocking. If you have ever seen a 6'9" middle play you will notice that they will practically never get beat by the setter unless they start cheating to the one side. Many times you will see a 6'9" middle jump about 10 inches to block his middle and when the setter throws the ball outside he is already back on the ground and on his way out there. Anybody that is even in the area of 6 feet has to jump a good 30 inches to put up a decent block in the middle and won't have a chance of getting outside in time because they will still be in the air as the ball is being hit.
With that said I can't really think of any other postion that requires height as much. True, maybe a short libero might not be able to reach a ball or two but that will happen to everyone at some point no matter your height.
Basically the only real advantage i see in being a huge 6'9" monster is the ability to cover all of your blocking assignments with ease because there really isnt a skill for that. Even the smartest MB is going to get beat if he is short and can't move because he is stuck in the air.
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 15, 2006 21:36:50 GMT -5
Also, television of the mens game will help--the mens game is so much more power then the womens game, but womens volleyball is all anyones ever seen. If mens volleyball looked anything like womens volleyball, the meatheads might be right. Good point. But because of the history of women's volleyball coverage and the current men's attitude towards volleyball. Would guys really want to see men's volleyball now?
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